Jakester

Good luck! I've only ever done this once, and I realised half way though one tune I'd been playing the synth riff half a tone up to where it should have been (god knows how I didn't realise from finger positions!) but couldn't hear it properly. No one seemed to notice though! 😅

Er, if they've refunded you (which is what I understood from "they gave it to me for free") can't you just buy another one? I mean, you're not out of pocket then.

[quote name='warwickhunt' timestamp='1487780975' post='3242836'] I posted re. my experience as the OP was contemplating the whole who books courier dilemma. I received a PP payment for an item and next day the buyer politely messaged to say he could book a courier through work a lot cheaper than any other way. All plausible, so I agreed and he had the parcel collected next day; 7-10 days later he asked ebay/PP for a refund as I hadn't delivered... he got a refund, I got stiffed! [/quote] Sorry to hear that, but slightly different from my scenario. I agree not one where you would want to be though!

Fleabag, I am afraid your definition of fact differs considerably from mine, then. You are free to agree an alternative form of payment but under the terms of eBay's user agreement you cannot refuse to accept PayPal if a buyer chooses to use it in a transaction. If a buyer pays by PayPal, you have two options - refund it, or take it. If you refund it and the buyer complains then you may be censured by eBay. I suspect if you repeatedly return the money your account will be blocked. You do not HAVE to use either eBay or PayPal. They are private companies. But if you do, you are bound by their terms and conditions.

[quote name='fleabag' timestamp='1487778229' post='3242795'] Yes thats true, but paypal themselves have stated that its fine to also list that if collecting in person, only cash is accepted. That is in direct repsonse to scammers doing exactly what spyder posted. Its a well known scam and even PP recognised it. Your listings will have to include payment by paypal, but on collections only, you simply do not have to accept paypal Thats fact [/quote] It's not fact. Under the terms of the eBay user agreement you MUST offer to accept PayPal. If you do not then you are in breach of the user agreement. You can also offer alternatives, but you cannot refuse to accept PP. Whether or not you act in breach (I.e. refuse PayPal) and get away with is a different matter. I suppose it is down to the number of transactions - if a buyer complained about people refusing to accept it then I suspect it'd mean you'd be censured by eBay.

[quote name='warwickhunt' timestamp='1487777231' post='3242766'] Therein lies the problem/scam. Buyer pays by paypal, collects in person/gets a courier/friend to collect (buyer books the courier so seller has no proof of courier booking). THEN buyer contacts ebay and says item hasn't been delivered, seller can't provide proof item was posted (part of T&C) and photos of a courier/family member could be for anything (or even staged by unscrupulous seller), so ebay/paypal refund. I speak from sad personal experience! [/quote] I don't doubt your experience, but PayPal seller protection specifically excludes items where you have agreed to collect in person. That's what the policy says. To say "it's part of t&cs" is simply incorrect when I've posted the exact wording and the link to the relevant section. Now, whether or not those policies are correctly applied is an entirely different matter!

Not to be rude, but if you've not used either service why offer an uninformed opinion? It's quite clearly set out here: [url="http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/accepted-payments-policy.html"]http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/accepted-payments-policy.html[/url] "[b]eBay requires all sellers listing on eBay.co.uk to offer payments through PayPal[/b] (with some limited exceptions). In most cases, other payment options may be offered as well."

[quote name='fleabag' timestamp='1487774202' post='3242705'] I would only ever accept cash when collection in person is the choice. Not only can you not get scammed, as spyder pointed out, there's also no PP chargeback if they get home and change their minds. You also save PP fees too [/quote] I believe that if you list something on eBay for sale you are obliged to use PayPal as a payment method, even if you've put cash on collection in the listing - so your buyer can still pay by PP even if you don't want them to. Of course, there's nothing to stop you agreeing cash on collection , but you can't insist.

[quote name='SpondonBassed' timestamp='1487772768' post='3242674'] In hindsight of this post, do you think you'd have felt better if you'd arranged for the parents to pay on collection? Just curious. [/quote] Only because I've had to take the hit on PayPal fees! I gave them the option of either.

In fact, it's expressly stated in the Paypal User Agreement: [quote] [b]13.4 Conditions for reimbursement[/b] You may be reimbursed under PayPal Buyer Protection for a problem with a purchase only if all of the following requirements are met:[list=1] [*][b]Your purchase is an eligible purchase.[/b] Purchases of most goods and services are eligible (including travel tickets, intangible items such as rights of access to digital content and other licences), [b]except for the following transactions[/b]: [my emphasis [/list] <snip> 15. purchases of items which you collect in person, or arrange to be collected on your behalf (including at a retail point of sale) and which you claim to be Not Received.[/quote] More details here: [url="https://www.paypal.com/uk/webapps/mpp/ua/useragreement-full#13"]https://www.paypal.c...reement-full#13[/url]

[quote name='spyder' timestamp='1487758436' post='3242435'] [b]Even with photo evidence of the pickup you are opening yourself up for the scam. [/b] [b]He can still put a claim against you.... Paypal will ask for the tracking and you can't provided it. They will refund the buyer.[/b] [b]Please be aware of this.[/b] [/quote] Well, he can't claim item not received with reference to tracking info when it was marked as "collection only". PayPal can be a pain, but they do have genuine people there with whom you can speak - and when you do they're generally very helpful.

I've just sold a bass which was collection only. The guy is getting his parents to collect it from me. He paid by PayPal. I'm not letting it go until I've seen and photographed their ID and taken a picture of them with the bass out of its case. Call me paranoid but that seems to me to be the best precautions against a chargeback i can take.

Get thee hence to Kings Heath Cash Converters - that's where most of the stuff nicked in the area turns up!

Will do.

[quote name='Old Horse Murphy' timestamp='1486047397' post='3228786'] Such a tart [/quote] <mock outrage> Pots and kettles spring to mind!! 😉 </mock outrage>

Um... 😶 I got rid of the bass.... oops. I still have the pickguard though if anyone wants it?

Great, thanks everyone.

I recently had a Glockenklang 2-band pre-amp installed in my Warwick Streamer STD bass. The after the first time I used it, went back to it and the battery was flat. "Silly me," I thought, "I've left the lead plugged in". Replaced the battery, but it did it again. "I'm such an idiot," I thought, "I've left it plugged in again." Replaced the battery, and this time double-checked every time to make sure that the lead was not plugged in. Unfortunately I still have a flat battery Took it back to the shop that fitted the pre-amp for me - we both assumed the tech had just soldered to the wrong tag making the circuit permanently energised, but upon inspection that turns out not to be the case. It appears the pre-amp is drawing power irrespective of whether or not a lead is plugged in. It has an 'active/passive' switch which is a push/pull on the blend knob - unfortunately passive is pulled out, so when it goes in a case the knob is pushed back in. It's not clear whether this switches the circuit off or just bypasses it in any event. For the time being I have simply disconnected the battery but it's not ideal. All the controls work and the bass sounds fine, which suggests there isn't a short somewhere. The tech is stumped. Does anyone have any ideas? I will contact Glockenklang directly but as it was bought second-hand I'm not hoping for much.