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[quote name='Ghost_Bass' timestamp='1452090587' post='2946270'] Oh! I love this game! Can i play? [attachment=208789:511.png] Clearly some similarities in the PCB layout with added features wich will most definetly change the overal sound of the pedal. Edit: Even though the PCB has the same size and shape of the B7K and most of the layout is the same these aren't B7K's spare PCB's, new tracks were added for the new components and some of the same components have been slightly relocated. I'm sure that Spencer did this from scratch, taking the base of the B7K and altered the PCB's design to accomodate his mods. It would be very difficult to come up with a new PCB design totaly different from the original wilst retaining the knobs in the pre-drilled enclosure positions. I won't comment about the ethics of this. [/quote] When you have to start drawing circles on circuits to show how they are different, I think that quite clearly demonstrates how different they truly are. There are strong feelings on either side of the argument it is clear, Doug has answered queries raised by the 3Leaf crowd on Talkbass as much as he has felt he could, sadly since his initial comment (which raised many questions) I do not believe Spencer has come back to talk about his product at all, but I may have missed something there. But anyway, neither are going to agree so it is probably best for all involved that we just let this die. I do regret starting the thread with my personal opinion so prominent, as opposed to perhaps starting with a more neutral ground, but there you go.

[quote name='DiMarco' timestamp='1452076987' post='2946076'] The high end Warwicks, currently labeled custom shop products are what they are. High end basses. Not only purchasing one costs a lot of money, service on them after the guarantee period also costs a lot of money. The same goes for high end cars and other goods. It is nice to own a Ferrari, but any service on it in the future will set you back quite some pounds/euros/dollars. This is why only rich people drive Ferrari. Yes even I sometimes ridicule the high prices asked for spare parts or service, but these prices come with the product you have chosen. They decide their pricing system, not you. I wouldn't ever buy a new Warwick custom shop product as I do not ever want to spend more then approx 2k on ANY instrument. I am a weekend warrior not some rockstar millionaire. I just think it is a shame Warwick are being portrayed the way they are by this thread. They are by no means an evil company and my experience with their customer service has been nothing short of exemplary and awesome. After having bought a used Warwick broadneck Dolphin Pro1 fretless five string from 1991, (which by the way is on at least one Simply Red album) the removable truss rod appeared to resonate inside the neck with some notes being played. I mailed Warwick asking what could cause this problem and within half a day Hans Peter Wilfer himself replied, sending me a photograph of the silicon grease I needed to re-apply as over the years the grease must have either dried out or was whiped off the truss rod by a previous owner. I ordered a similar pack of silicon grease, applied it to the truss rod and the problem was gone. What manufacturer offers this kind of service/advice to people using 2nd hand market instruments and therefor are no customers at all? Exactly. Most would have replied "take the bass to a dealer to get a quote". About the truss rod remark someone else made here: Thousands of Warwicks have been manufactured and sold, and are being played without anyone ever hearing about these instruments. They simply work. Over the last five or six years I have heard/read (I'm an admin on the Warwick forum but do not work for them) about only a hand full of problems with necks and/or truss rods. That's not a lot is it? Yet they get slag. Booh! Of course, if your neck goes bad on a standard Fender like bass you can simply purchase a brand X new neck in the aftermarket and your problem is solved. With Warwicks, and especially the neckthru models this of course is not the case. Final words on this: Taking any problems you have with a manufacturer to forums or social media instead of solving it with that manufacturer says more about you as a person then it does about that manufacturer. Ugh. [/quote] I think with regards to the price Warwick quoted, you have completely missed the main criticism in this thread. It is comparable to you taking your Ferrari back to the Ferrari dealer with a punctured tyre and them quoting to replace the axle, both wheels and tyres. And, I think you know as well as many that the Custom Shop label is exactly that, a label. They are the same German built basses they have built for the past few years, only with a slow introduction of new 'features' to distinguish them from the fairer priced instruments, one of which being those godawful wooden tuners. With regards to support of 2nd hand basses, to be honest from all of the reasonably high end brands I have owned I have always had service as you describe, so Warwick in your view are on a par with them. However, stories like this one are really not nice to read. You know how much I love Warwick basses, but they genuinely do not seem to want to even consider after market repairs.

[quote name='RaNoFuNkY' timestamp='1451945326' post='2944965'] [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZB1hW-0Hag"]https://www.youtube....h?v=OZB1hW-0Hag[/url] My very quick comparison between the Deep Impact and Future Impact, using 2 settings I commonly use live. This is after ~10 mins of playing with the settings, but you get the idea. The lowest note I hit is a low E to test the tracking on the sub octave synth setting(!) For reference, that's an 18V active bass with roundwound strings. My shoddy playing at the beginning does the original Deep Impact a disservice (sorry Akai). [/quote] Sounds great. Seems the FI is somewhat 'cleaner' sounding than the Deep Impact, going back to what Toasted said earlier a big draw to the Deep Impact was its imperfections.

There were a couple last year, only little low quality teaser videos, not really worth looking for from memory.

[quote name='RaNoFuNkY' timestamp='1451932720' post='2944756'] I can confirm that the tracking on the Future Impact is absolutely a non-issue, it's very, very good with both my 18V active and passive basses, and roundwound/flatwound strings. I also regularly gig with the original Deep Impact, and this new pedal is SPOT ON. It not only replicates some of the key sounds that I get out of my original, it offers many more possibilities with it's 99 patches and MIDI capabilities (which I have not yet explored, but it sounds promising). [/quote] That sounds great, cheers

I would put Octave first, as the OC-2 will not track well after any effected tone. You want an octaver to go into filters to achieve the best effect. Although, everything is personal preference, only person who is right is you!

[quote name='dannybuoy' timestamp='1451899924' post='2944308'] There's an Ultra version of the Vintage planned for April release too. [/quote] That's the one I'm waiting for

It is tempting to have a weekend up north.

Still nothing? I see complaints about tracking and latency over on TB, keen to learn more! I also read over there a lot of people hoping they don't get charged any custom/tax fees on arrival...but then saying they want their EU VAT refunded. Having their cake and eating it somewhat!

[quote name='Cameronj279' timestamp='1451830516' post='2943745'] I use the Mono Vertigo for my Dingwall (37") and it fits with space to spare. Comfy on the shoulder too. I've also been able to fit a Genz Benz shuttle 9.0 with all the relevant cables in the bag. [/quote] Aye, but owing to the design of the Dingwall its overall length is little more than a standard scaled bass. Do you have any guitar shops close to you? It sounds like you really need to try a few manufactures, if you haven't already. I think the Mono Vertigo max length is 122cm, so that may bugger you for any Mono case. Serves you right for (presumably) inflicting a 36 inch scale length on a G string!

[quote name='skej21' timestamp='1451846094' post='2943977'] Agreed. I love the fact that modern shapes and single cut basses are becoming more common. I love how much they seem to divide opinion too :-) [/quote][quote name='Bassassin' timestamp='1451845945' post='2943973'] No. The original SR is an elegant & lightweight design and all this does is add 2lbs of unnecessary wood, and make it pig-ugly. Horrid. Jon. [/quote] Haha You presumably only play headless Steinberger type basses Jon, in the interest of losing unnecessary wood

Excellent! I love how SC basses are becoming more and more common, great to see a mass produced one of this style enter the market at what Im sure will be a brilliant price

The mind boggles! No matter how nice the bass was and how much you wished it was a 5, surely buying a new 5 would be the best option, rather than changing your 4 string beyond recognition? Cool, but odd!

[quote name='HowieBass' timestamp='1451776074' post='2943417'] If you've got a good chromatic tuner, do you even need to sound the harmonics? I tend to check the tuning pretty much at the 'dotted' positions all the way up the neck up to and including the 21st and (where available) the 24th fretted notes. [/quote] Other than the harmonic and 12th, with open an octave below, the only other fret I check is the 17th. Can't remember why, there was a reason I'm sure...

Thanks guys, its all the more impressive in the flesh

[quote name='bubinga5' timestamp='1451704363' post='2942662'] Does anyone actually know what Intonation is. ? Play a harmonic on the 12th fret of the E string and then play the open string. if they sound the same your intonation is good. try this on every string.. if its out adjust your saddle position. Intonation is the open string harmonic string relationship. like TwinCam said remember to stretch your string, and always wind up to tune up. [/quote] Surely you are forgetting the 12th fret octave?

Great stuff, Dan. I have a prototype white one and its a cool boost!

Ah, first glimpse of the Jon Stockman distortion, sounded good in the couple of sound clip teasers posted over the last few months, hopefully aesthetics improve

They are lovely basses, the Walnut ones are stunning, and no horrific binding! Congrats Surprised about the neck/nut comments, though. Surely QC of a mass produced instrument at this price point should mean they are all the same, or at least similar enough not to be differentiated? Completely understandable when comparing the current S models to the S models from previous years, unless they do change the specs year on year?