Kev

[quote name='Truckstop' timestamp='1452372691' post='2949420'] This or a vintage P? [/quote] You would get change with this in many a case. And when you compare the build quality... Still, each to their own. Vintage P's do look pretty on a wall, or in those rather fetching tweed cases Alternatively, buy a Squire Classic Vibe, stick a Aguilar P in it, and lets be honest you will be 3/4 of the way there

I was about to get myself a Polytune tuner, but then I saw this. Anyone any experience with it? Never seen or heard of it before??

I like it Price seems bang on compared to other 'Super' P builders too.

I think you are going to be somewhat surprised at how much more you can do with iOS Lots and lots to explore! But for a tuner, the Polytune App I have found the best and least glitchy for me

[quote name='Dread Bass' timestamp='1452294185' post='2948735'] That said I do use my B7K as an always on and with only a hair of overdrive. I am surprised to see some describe it as harsh but then maybe I like harsh? [/quote] People who describe it as harsh are not using it properly. It is capable of far more than that

[quote name='Bigwan' timestamp='1452287932' post='2948638'] Good to see you here Doug! I don't know what happened in the whole Darkglass/Spencer affair, and I don't want to know. If I've spoke out of turn I apologise. But... I DON'T think the term CLONE should be being bandied about as there has been development in these pike pedals... even if the visuals are, ahem, questionably familiar! [/quote] Agreed. Thread title amended as appropriate.

Alpher Mako Elite 5: ACG Finn Custom 4: And a little shot of the pair:

[quote name='Bigwan' timestamp='1452268923' post='2948340'] Err... How do you work that out then? [/quote] I said why I thought that in my post. With regards to Mark, he has pretty strong views on bass equipment as any who have dealt with him would know, I wouldn't be surprised if he made the decision not to sell them himself. However, I personally think him removing them from sale is more likely due to the hullabaloo about them at the moment, albeit a little odd as it is mainly on Talkbass, given that most participants in this thread have been defending Pike. Although, I think Facebook has been quite bad for Spencer, he is deleting an awful lot of comments. I may well be proven wrong if it comes out, but I repeat I do not think Doug (the only one at DG who would make the decision) would go this route, as he simply doesn't need to. Pike are not a real threat to DG sales, certainly no more of a threat than any of the other high end drive pedals out there at the moment.

No point in trying to force yourself to like something. If you have a lot of money in it, get rid

Providing you got it in 2015

http://basschat.co.uk/topic/275973-new-darkglass-goodies-for-2016/page__pid__2945771__st__30#entry2945771

[quote name='Ghost_Bass' timestamp='1452249530' post='2947971'] WTF??? He might aswell have said "Due to pressure from another manufacturer we are no longer selling Pike." It's understandable that he removed Pike from the list, DG sells more and generates a bigger income, i don't blame him, but if it's confirmed that DG forced him to cancel the Pike deal then they'll now look as bad in the picture as Spencer did... [/quote] Following numerous conversations with Doug, he doesn't care less about it and just finds it all a little sad really. He has said to me he just wants to move on from it and concentrate on his own releases, of which there will be many this year. I don't think this will be Darkglass pressure at all.

Something usually comes up, but Ill tentatively put my name on again as I am determined to go to one of these things! [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]1. Si600, GK MB212 (house rig), Fender P V.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]2. The_Ox (exams permitting)[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]3. tauzero, Sei Original fretless 5, Sei Flamboyant 6, Antoniotsai 5, maybe something else interesting, and possibly Mrs Zero.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]4. Harryburke14[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]5. Len_derby[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]6. Andyjr1515[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]7. seashell, Fender P[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]8. Bottle. I[/font][/color][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]banez bass, Line 6 Lowdown 110, amp rack and effects boards.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]9. Annoying Twit. Who knows what I will bring.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]10. GrammeFriday - Sandberg VM5, TC RH750, TC RS212, maybe also pedalboard [/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]11. Jabba_the_Gut - A couple of homemade basses (if I finish them in time...again), Markbass head and TC RS112 cabs[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]12. Kev - Alpher Mako, ACG Finn, [/font][/color][font="helvetica, arial, sans-serif"][color="#282828"]couple of pedals.[/color][/font]

Do we know what happened at Bass Direct? It still sells coming soon on their 3Leaf page, but they certainly did have a sales page for them.

Well, been out of the club since I moved on the Recurve, but now have this little beauty, familiar to many I'm sure, Finn 0043

Purchased a lovely ACG bass from Chris, cracking instrument, chuffed to bits with it Parcelfarce tried to spoil it by being their usually frightfully efficient selves but arrived safe and sound so no further complaints there Cheers mate.

[quote name='Ghost_Bass' timestamp='1452090587' post='2946270'] Oh! I love this game! Can i play? [attachment=208789:511.png] Clearly some similarities in the PCB layout with added features wich will most definetly change the overal sound of the pedal. Edit: Even though the PCB has the same size and shape of the B7K and most of the layout is the same these aren't B7K's spare PCB's, new tracks were added for the new components and some of the same components have been slightly relocated. I'm sure that Spencer did this from scratch, taking the base of the B7K and altered the PCB's design to accomodate his mods. It would be very difficult to come up with a new PCB design totaly different from the original wilst retaining the knobs in the pre-drilled enclosure positions. I won't comment about the ethics of this. [/quote] When you have to start drawing circles on circuits to show how they are different, I think that quite clearly demonstrates how different they truly are. There are strong feelings on either side of the argument it is clear, Doug has answered queries raised by the 3Leaf crowd on Talkbass as much as he has felt he could, sadly since his initial comment (which raised many questions) I do not believe Spencer has come back to talk about his product at all, but I may have missed something there. But anyway, neither are going to agree so it is probably best for all involved that we just let this die. I do regret starting the thread with my personal opinion so prominent, as opposed to perhaps starting with a more neutral ground, but there you go.

[quote name='DiMarco' timestamp='1452076987' post='2946076'] The high end Warwicks, currently labeled custom shop products are what they are. High end basses. Not only purchasing one costs a lot of money, service on them after the guarantee period also costs a lot of money. The same goes for high end cars and other goods. It is nice to own a Ferrari, but any service on it in the future will set you back quite some pounds/euros/dollars. This is why only rich people drive Ferrari. Yes even I sometimes ridicule the high prices asked for spare parts or service, but these prices come with the product you have chosen. They decide their pricing system, not you. I wouldn't ever buy a new Warwick custom shop product as I do not ever want to spend more then approx 2k on ANY instrument. I am a weekend warrior not some rockstar millionaire. I just think it is a shame Warwick are being portrayed the way they are by this thread. They are by no means an evil company and my experience with their customer service has been nothing short of exemplary and awesome. After having bought a used Warwick broadneck Dolphin Pro1 fretless five string from 1991, (which by the way is on at least one Simply Red album) the removable truss rod appeared to resonate inside the neck with some notes being played. I mailed Warwick asking what could cause this problem and within half a day Hans Peter Wilfer himself replied, sending me a photograph of the silicon grease I needed to re-apply as over the years the grease must have either dried out or was whiped off the truss rod by a previous owner. I ordered a similar pack of silicon grease, applied it to the truss rod and the problem was gone. What manufacturer offers this kind of service/advice to people using 2nd hand market instruments and therefor are no customers at all? Exactly. Most would have replied "take the bass to a dealer to get a quote". About the truss rod remark someone else made here: Thousands of Warwicks have been manufactured and sold, and are being played without anyone ever hearing about these instruments. They simply work. Over the last five or six years I have heard/read (I'm an admin on the Warwick forum but do not work for them) about only a hand full of problems with necks and/or truss rods. That's not a lot is it? Yet they get slag. Booh! Of course, if your neck goes bad on a standard Fender like bass you can simply purchase a brand X new neck in the aftermarket and your problem is solved. With Warwicks, and especially the neckthru models this of course is not the case. Final words on this: Taking any problems you have with a manufacturer to forums or social media instead of solving it with that manufacturer says more about you as a person then it does about that manufacturer. Ugh. [/quote] I think with regards to the price Warwick quoted, you have completely missed the main criticism in this thread. It is comparable to you taking your Ferrari back to the Ferrari dealer with a punctured tyre and them quoting to replace the axle, both wheels and tyres. And, I think you know as well as many that the Custom Shop label is exactly that, a label. They are the same German built basses they have built for the past few years, only with a slow introduction of new 'features' to distinguish them from the fairer priced instruments, one of which being those godawful wooden tuners. With regards to support of 2nd hand basses, to be honest from all of the reasonably high end brands I have owned I have always had service as you describe, so Warwick in your view are on a par with them. However, stories like this one are really not nice to read. You know how much I love Warwick basses, but they genuinely do not seem to want to even consider after market repairs.

[quote name='RaNoFuNkY' timestamp='1451945326' post='2944965'] [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZB1hW-0Hag"]https://www.youtube....h?v=OZB1hW-0Hag[/url] My very quick comparison between the Deep Impact and Future Impact, using 2 settings I commonly use live. This is after ~10 mins of playing with the settings, but you get the idea. The lowest note I hit is a low E to test the tracking on the sub octave synth setting(!) For reference, that's an 18V active bass with roundwound strings. My shoddy playing at the beginning does the original Deep Impact a disservice (sorry Akai). [/quote] Sounds great. Seems the FI is somewhat 'cleaner' sounding than the Deep Impact, going back to what Toasted said earlier a big draw to the Deep Impact was its imperfections.

There were a couple last year, only little low quality teaser videos, not really worth looking for from memory.

[quote name='RaNoFuNkY' timestamp='1451932720' post='2944756'] I can confirm that the tracking on the Future Impact is absolutely a non-issue, it's very, very good with both my 18V active and passive basses, and roundwound/flatwound strings. I also regularly gig with the original Deep Impact, and this new pedal is SPOT ON. It not only replicates some of the key sounds that I get out of my original, it offers many more possibilities with it's 99 patches and MIDI capabilities (which I have not yet explored, but it sounds promising). [/quote] That sounds great, cheers

I would put Octave first, as the OC-2 will not track well after any effected tone. You want an octaver to go into filters to achieve the best effect. Although, everything is personal preference, only person who is right is you!

[quote name='dannybuoy' timestamp='1451899924' post='2944308'] There's an Ultra version of the Vintage planned for April release too. [/quote] That's the one I'm waiting for