not the way things work though mate in the buy/sell world, the buyer always pays before getting, and thats true for pretty much everything. you dont go the supermarket and eat the food, then pay. you dont go online to a music site, and get them to send you a bass, n then pay when it arrives, just not the way it goes. i know what you mean on the trust thing though, and i think everyone knows about my ideas to keep basschat classifieds safe