Kev

Do you have any sound clips where an ACG sounds like the tones in the OP?

Think they were the videos I saw. The MCs get things a little closer than before, but it's just such a polite tone, none of that Wal character.

Fascinated by this. Loved the sound of my Wal to bits, hated everything else about it. I've yearned for the sound every since I got rid, but the absolutely abhorrent profiteering in the used Wal communities has kept me away for good, and they're still much more than I can afford new anyway. Certainly agree such a huge part of the sound must be the pickups. I bought an ACG with regular humbuckers and a filter preamp whilst I still had the Wal in some kind of hope it would emulate it in some way, but no, not even remotely Wal like. ACG have since released their own MC pickups too and have updated the preamp, but from YT videos it doesn't seem they get that close either. That sound clip of the pups you've bought sounds brilliant, and I can only imagine a filter pre would help bring out more. Intrigued!

They seem to have maintained their standard of build, albeit with fancier woods and hardware, and tripled the price in some instances. Hopefully the 2022 models are better.

A lot cheaper 🙂 But why oh WHY they insist on squaring off the end of the fretboard rather than following the nut is beyond me. It just looks horrific. When I had an SRMS, I bought a fretwrap for no other reason other than to cover it up 🤢

37" Ibby almost half the cost of a Dingwall NG. So that's now a Spector and Ibby with distinctly more expensive build quality offering a 37" MS significantly cheaper than Dingwall. I live in hope my genre may yet get some originality back...

Agree, odd choice but presumably one to keep the prices south of £1,500

Ha. I like to think I know that album, and it's bass tones, back to front. I never suspected that track had two different basses on it, but isolated its obvious that ain't no Wal!

Mmm. I don't think there's too many like Origin who seem to really ramp prices up for foreign markets, but a lot of US built pedals do seem to be a lot more expensive over this side of the pond. But, then again that could just be how its perceived from listings without sales tax. Anyway, how much is this one going to be? £100?? 😁😁

Course not, they're not "mass produced" pedals, they're handbuilt by a very small factory in Finland. I do struggle to understand why sometimes people think pedal prices should be based on their components, without considering everything else. By the way, LOVE how a Tech21 release has somehow resulted in another thread moaning about Darkglass being expensive. 🙃

Sadly we don't, and never will, live in a world where things don't cost more when they're from a presitge brand/made in the west/handmade e.t.c. But how cheap do you think they can be? Some Darkglass pedals sell for under £200, some for almost £500. Do you want them all to be £100? I don't actually think sales would be as different as you think, and certainly not enough to offset losses at that difference. I mean there are several on this forum who would pay £3k or £4k on a Sadowsky that looks and sounds practically the same as an instrument costs £120 from Thomann...

Pretty much spot on really, remembering that US prices don't include tax. Its US built pedals that we do really badly from.

He didn't make many?

Madness! Haven't tried a Chromatron, but the filter series seemed to be getting progressively less interesting since the GR2. I wasn't impressed at all with the Wonderlove. I wouldn't feel compelled to pay anything remotely near those prices. I find it impossible to believe someone would pay £800 for an Octabvre, a pedal cloning an OC-2 and an Octave Divider, and selling for more than both of the originals would combined. In fact the only pedal I've really been impressed with is the Doom, as it went somewhat against Spencer's usual remit (an actual original design), and the Doom 2 seems to get people excited. I don't like the guy, but I hope he's okay as it is odd that he's stepped back during a time you'd think he may really boom, as others have done.

Nice of you to drop in. I take it your Photon is on its way to you then?

Touche. On that basis, lets get back ON topic, general bass related discussion only in this thread please.

Go back to the previous page or two and you'll read comparisons to the animal kingdom and evolution. There's nowhere quite like Off Topic.

I would say that the B7K and AO drive circuits are quite different. All Darkglass of course, but generally the AO is thicker and fuzzier than the B7K. Less metallic clank.

If I still used pedals I may well have, I built my last board around the Adam, and an Adam with AO tones sounds superb. For many it could be the only device they need for live use, studio use and home practice, particularly if you go ampless.

True, but manufactured or not, plenty of people in this thread have been taken in by it...

Yeah me too, basically. Why from that did he get personally attacked by someone telling him they were better than him, despite him being a heavy man? I'm just trying to make sense of it. I get referring to lighter/more delicate things as girly is an old fashioned and outdated way of referring to things, but I don't understand why a female artist would see it as an attack on their musicianship? But, as I think @EBS_freakwas angling at by his ponderous question to me, I am speaking from a position of privilege, if that truly means anything in this particular context.