Kev

That was a real bass release? I thought the big knob was a joke!

Huge difference for me, totally changes the attack of the note, but clearly this thread demonstrates we all hear this stuff very differently!

Check back to the little video I linked with Nolly demonstrating how he uses a compressor. Very useful indeed with overdrive/distortion, depending on what result you’re looking for.

How have they fixed that? Different pickup models?

If that’s a real world issue, that is such a bizarre QC issue to let happen.

At this stage, I can only assume you are deliberately missing the point! A sound clip won't demonstrate what i am talking about in any meaningful way. Watch the video I just posted, best description I can give.

Check this out for an example of what I use a compressor for, for making music in a similar genre to Mr Getgood. 4:51 onwards.

You're twisting words somewhat. An average punter probably wouldn't notice if you started playing clean bass instead of distorted bass, unless the particular track is entirely defined by that sound. So no, clearly they aren't going to pick up on changes brought about by a compressor, and not at deafening gig levels. Does it make a difference in a live mix? Absolutely, otherwise I wouldn't waste my money buying and using one! But you're right, solo'd in a sound clip even a punter would recognise the difference

Again though, I’m commenting more about feel than specifically tone, reaction to playing dynamics, attack etc. There is no chance in hell a punter is going to notice that! It just means more to some bassists than others, and that’s absolutely fine 🙂

Live setting, it really is a simple as sticking a compressor on your board, setting it accordingly, and using it for a few weeks etc, then stop using it. I'd be amazed if you didn't notice a reasonably significant difference in the tone response to your playing and your spot in the mix.

I guess in many cases its just another part of the mixing process. Unmixed/mastered records sounds rather different than the stems just shoved together. One of many small changes that deliver the final product. Aside from that, a pedal compressor is as much about feel as well. Feeling and hearing a difference response to your string attack. Very difficult to demonstrate that to someone with a sound clip!

It does. And don't know! Can't remember if the Darkglass factory is still assisting with Neural DSP orders, imagine they may be a bit strained still if so.

I think in a lot of cases (not necessarily anyone responding here!) people simply don't understand what compressors achieve, or try to use them as an occasional effects pedal in a heavy noticeable setting (tone wise) and not understand why else they would really use one, and get defensive when use is challenged. I've seen bassists show them off as an effects pedal, when really the only difference they are hearing that would justify occasional use is a volume boost, because they didn't set it to unity gain. For me, always on of course, slowest attack and fastest release settings, makes notes just hit harder. Ideal as a finger style player in metal.

I think it's more not understanding what a compressor can do, as it isn't necessarily something that can be achieved by "good enough" playing.

I can’t see a market for it. Certainly not if it’s more expensive than the OC-5. Sure there may be a couple of super purists on here that care where it’s built and don’t want the extra knob and switch, but surely not enough for that to sell in any volume? If there was no OC-5, or if it had no vintage mode, absolutely. But otherwise, I can’t see why Boss would invest in one, except for maybe a super limited edition run on an anniversary date at a silly price.

What additions would you hope for in the Waza version though? Because seriously, unless you just want it to track a bit worse, the OC-5 is spot on, right down to the glitchiness when it doesn't track. I find that whole range more style over substance to be honest. I mean, look at the tuner...

I guess in poly mode to me it becomes a little more “ordinary” and loses that synthy glitchy octave sound I love, still works well for me with the +1. I also quite like what the -2 octave is doing high up the fretboard as well, which is odd as I’ve always instantly turned that off on OC-2s before. One complaint that I have in common with the Oc-2; it still doesn’t like super hot signals going in. My Alpher with twin humbuckers in series mode is seriously meaty and causes it to clip, but dialing back the volume on the bass and turning up on the pedal resolves.

And now I have. Not too much to report really! To my ears, identical to the Oc-2 octave in vintage mode. It tracks much better, but when it does lose it it glitches just like the OC-2 does. The octave up (poly) works in vintage mode too and actually sounds much better than your average octave up. All sounds huge with fuzz. The Poly mode sounds a bit pants to me so I won't be using that at any point, but like any bassist buying this would anyway! It's on the board

I never understand complaints like this. A regular 9v pedal coming with a power supply would be a complete waste of plastic for me. No use for it, surely 90% of users will already use a superior power supply to use with their board.

Really difficult to agree with that when it has a bass input!! I've still not had chance to sit down with the OC-5 yet, reckon bank holiday monday is as good a day as any to lock myself away and give it a go.