Kev

StingRays are interesting. I was kinda similar, I always wanted a US 4 string StingRay and when I finally owned one (2003 ish model) I was terribly underwhelmed with it. Heavy, brittle tone, uncomfortable to play, hate would be too strong a word but just had no connection with it at all. Yet I loved the sound of them on records and practically learned to play on an 00's SUB from the same period. I sold it pretty quickly. I've since owned two other US StingRays (a sold Special and a 2016 PDN I very much still have) and adored them both and were everything I hoped they would be. I guess there are always bad ones of everything!

Aren't Bax the one that offer a 30 day trial period on their products? Doesn't bode well for that if they make a meal out of sorting out missing/faulty goods...

PMT? Bax? Andertons? Are there any shops left that haven't hurt you Ed? General used rate online for the Ric seems to be around the £2k mark, so being offered half its value by a big chain shop, whilst shocking, doesn't sound totally alien to me. Best just to sell it privately and hopefully pocket a bit of change! Is there a guitar equivalent of the likes of Bassbros? Will offers really fair prices i've heard, your better bet is trying to sell to someone smaller, and I assume some will buy if its a desirable bit of kit. But they naturally need to make a decent profit.

Congrats! The Masterbuilt Warwicks are truly different instruments to the ones that came before, they feel like incredibly premium instruments.

I wish I could use Newtone, but sadly my only experiences with them have been negative. I think I've used them three times. Each time the order has taken over 2 weeks, over their own estimate but not the end of the world for handmade to order strings. But each order has also been wrong. Wrong gauges, string missing, no taper, with another 2 weeks to have it resolved. I recall finding the strings a little unbalanced tonally as well between gauges. It's a shame, and by all accounts people generally don't seem to have an issue, but these orders were spread over 10 years or so and to have 3 consecutive problems has just put me right off sadly.

Plenty of small businesses rely on eBay as a way of selling their products without having their own online presence. There are many eBay accounts that are licensed dealers 👍

Not only that, but buy a used original, the way things are now it'll probably be worth more if you move it on in a few years, whereas a SBMM will get you back half your investment maybe. I've seen plenty whilst looking at the Musicman used market around the £1400 mark in the last 12 months, the difficulty is more getting one in the finish you want. I'd expect they'll probably sell well, at least initially, I just wish we didn't get such a bad end of the deal price wise. $699 would be fantastic, even with VAT on top. It wasn't that long ago we used to moan about $=£ and the exchange rate, now that would be a dream!

Oh I only mentioned it as he literally says it's the same circuit, rather than inspired by or developed from etc. Usually cloners aren't quite so blunt! And that last sentence reminds me of someone...

And there lies the problem with the higher end SBMM stuff in the UK. Its practically used EBMM money.

That purple looks fantastic! How is that price going to translate into £ as it doesn't seem too bad?

Almost £1k for a 1x10 combo. Does the tolex still peel?

A long time since Chunk HQ went silent for sure. I find it interesting though that he still renews the domain/hosting for the chunk website. Well over a decade now since Chunk shut down and its still going. I agree, the clone does functionally seem like an improvement over using the two pedals for sure. Be interesting if he ever attempts to build something like the Squeezer!

Ah you get used to it! Oddly I quite enjoy it after nearly a year of it The clone sounds cool! Is it done with the blessing of Richy Cartwright or just a blatant rip-off?

They won't accept it as a return though, or shouldn't at least, its way outside the return window. If the product isn't faulty, I don't see why Andertons would consider returning and selling as B stock. The issue is the item is not fit for purpose, which has to fall outside of Anderton's warranty and they can only help by assisting the customer in contacting the manufacturer for resolution, as a gesture of goodwill. The key thing here seems to be the grey area; is the product "faulty". It doesn't seem to be.

Do you have a link to something explaining this? Outside of the 30 day or similar period with the store, i understood warranties were serviced by the maker of the goods, not the shop from where they were bought? Occasionally stores will offer their own warranty (Thomann do this don't they?) but i have never seen Andertons advertise this. Edit: Just saw this https://help.andertons.co.uk/hc/en-gb/articles/360009432120-How-Do-I-Find-Out-About-My-Manufacturer-s-Warranty so Andertons do offer to administer a manufacturer's 12 month warranty. The grey area here is that there is no "fault" with the product, there is an argument instead that it's not fit for purpose. I don't know what the legal position is on this, but I suspect unless Andertons went cavalier with their product information, responsibility will be outside the sales warranty and will be a dispute with the manufacturer.

Andertons may well help you try and resolve the problem but this definitely sounds like a manufacturer issue, and your warranty will be with them. All Andertons can really do is offer assistance at their discretion. I wouldn't consider cancelling your finance agreement or anything like that.

Going to expand on the OC-2 comparison a little. I got the board out this afternoon with a view to seeing if I can actually justify selling the rather £££y OC-2 and just using the QC's model going forward. I use mine with my Chunk synth mostly but I do like it -1 solo'd too. I decided not to sell. It IS very good, particularly when used with other effects, but isolated it just doesn't quite nail the rubbery tone, and the mids are a little off and EQ'ing couldn't quite bring it round. I also think they may have slightllllllly overdone the glitching? I feel like it glitches easier, which could be cool but I preferred the pedal's action. If I didn't have the OC-2, I would be perfectly convinced that it sounded identical, there really isn't too much in it. But side by side, I feel i'd miss it. This is compared to an '82 anyway. I have had later Japanese and Taiwanese models that sound different to mine so YMMV.

Duplicating that 4 times would have been more appropriate.

Because if they did, this thread probably wouldn't exist and the basses would enter into an extremely congested price point with nothing to make it stand out from the crowd. I like the champagne finish and don't have a huge issue with the headstock, they're not going to use the old paddle design with a small lightwood body.

Understandably, the marketing of the pedal does nothing to invite people in who want normal! Some may be swayed if they get a video in front of them, but generally I think anyone looking for "standard" stuff wouldn't give it a 2nd glance. Even the filter, using the phrase/terminology "Ladder" doesn't immediately make your average player think its a cool envelope filter pedal, especially when surrounded by things like crush. vinyl and glitch. Its an interesting choice to go so niche in that sense, be interested to know how its doing sale wise compared to other releases.

What problems have you had with Reverb? EBay is grotesquely unfair to a seller and I thought Reverb was just more balanced. This sounds like a simple NAD case that the seller has refused to compromise on, so how did Reverb handle this? Sorry to hear of the trouble. If it was me, the bass would be going back as I'd never get over the issues unless it could be restored fully to original spec.