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Hi All, This is just a feeler, I'm thinking of trading my Warwick Thumb Bolt-on 'Dirty Blonde' 5 string, 2006 Limited edition. (This isn't it, just some stock pic from a google search) I've had the bass from new for just over a year now. It's a limited edition of 250. Plays lovely, has that classic Warwick growl, but with the unusaul pick up combination means has a broader range of tones. The 'cookie dough' woods used and lovely gull inlays make the bass a real looker. Truth be told I've just never used the bass, I think a combination of the smaller body and having been playing the same bass for 10 years. I'd estimate that it's had between 15 and 20 hours of play time, I have gigged it once. I don't change gear very often, but was a little flush when I got this. Condition wise pretty much as new, some of the lettering on the pickups has worn away a little, but other than that nothing. I'd like to know if anyone has any interesting trades for this? Must be 5 string, I'm interested in Stingray 5, or good jazz type basses, however I'm open to interesting offers. Like I say not desperate to get rid as it is a beatiful instrument, just doesn't get used. Features: - Birdseye Poplar top - Swamp Ash back - Bolt-on Flamed Maple neck - Tigerstripe Ebony fingerboard, 24 frets - Scale length: 34" - "Gull" Inlays - Birdseye Poplar veneer headstock overlay - "Dirty Blonde" stained satin finish - black hardware - Active MEC P/TJ pickups - Active MEC 3-way electronics Comes with a flight case, this is more used, as I used it for a couple of flights with my Yamaha in it. For more info: [url="http://warwick.de/modules/produkte/produkt.php?submenuID=14667&linkmode=SINGLE&katID=14480&linkID=25253&cl=EN"]http://warwick.de/modules/produkte/produkt...25253&cl=EN[/url] If people are seriously interested I'll dust of the camera and post some pics. Thanks -
[quote name='lowhand_mike' post='216399' date='Jun 10 2008, 07:53 PM']just read this and i got the bug again (i'm sure the cream will get rid of it though) was thinking of the omni 10 but i really like the idea of the tallboy 12. and from the looks of your shots it would fit exactly in my my car too (being the same car and all )[/quote] Love the car, but it's a bit thirsty. From what I've read the O15 has better low end than the O12 so if you have space I'd go for the O15, sizewise there is only a tiny difference. Dave Perry talks about the differences in this thread I think [url="http://billfitzmaurice.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5322&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15"]http://billfitzmaurice.com/phpBB2/viewtopi...sc&start=15[/url]
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IIIRC You shoudn't really mix speakers of different sizes that operate in the same frequency range because of a thing called comb filtering. Google it and see what comes up. I'm sure BFM or Alex Clabber, will be able to put this more elequently
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[quote name='Hamster' post='214161' date='Jun 7 2008, 12:41 AM']Post up a few gig dates when you're going to be using the cab - a sound excuse to pop along for a pint & listen! Hamster[/quote] Ironically all of the gigs I have coming up are bigger venues with PA support. My originals band occisonally does stuff with no PA [url="http://www.thecommonmoralcause.com"]www.thecommonmoralcause.com[/url] all the dep. stuff I do is through a PA (often with a crappy provided backline)
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[quote name='clauster' post='213859' date='Jun 6 2008, 01:39 PM']Cheers Gilmour, after months of deliberating I'm starting my builds this weekend - one O15tb for gigs and one O10.5 for rehearsals and jams.[/quote] Good luck, it's a really enjoyable process and well worth it, I really mean it when I say every cab I have used since sounds pedestrian. If you're bulding a O15TB then you should look at Dave Perry's build diary over at Finnbass.com he used a melded Piezo array rather than the comp driver saving a lot of money for pretty much the same results.
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Just thought I'd update this a little as I've been gigging this cab constantly since I finsihed building it, if anything the sound has improved as the speaker has bedded in, giving an even deepr tone I took it apart at one point to add a wooden speaker gasket to the Mid range driver as I could hear it slapping a little against the Baffle. I had originally used window sealing stirp, but it compressed to much when the speaker was attached. Making a wooden one is something Bill suggsts, but I was too lazy at first (he also suggests Blank Gasket Stock, but I think this may also comrpess to much). The mod was more fiddly because the cab was finished, but even so it took less than an hour, would have taken no time at all if I had done it originally When the cab was open I took the opportunity to take a better pic of the crossover, it's a bit of a beast... Anyway the cab sounds amazing, and I have had a lot of compliments on it from band members and other players. I was right to dread gigs where backline is supplied, as when I have done these I find myself wondering how I ever survived with the lack of clarity and lack of bottom end in the sound, even the MC in one of my bands commented on this when I was using a TE combo, and MCs aren'talways the most musical of people. [b]If you are thinking about building one don't hesitate just get on and do it, It's well worth it.[/b]
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Don't be nervous about building these. Bill's plans are really really clear and concise. I'd never done any woodwork beyond household DIY and putting up shleves before I built my O15TB. You can see my effforts here [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=11971"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=11971[/url]
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You're better off trying to pick up a decent second hand Bass cab, just on cost alone 4 12" Neo speakers won't be cheap. And as the comments above suggest, may not sound particularly great either.
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Hi Tom, Will got your msg, will reply when I get a chance. [b]RE: The above. [/b] I didn't mean the is the Low A related to motown, I actually meant it is probably the reson for the fret buzz! And inadvertantly seem to have caused some kind of argument sorry. Ferrets right about JJ, for the most part, I'm not even sure if they had 5 strings back them. However IIRC he did play on quite a bit of Stevie Wonder stuff, and that's tuned down to Eb a lot of the time (all the black keys I guess). Anyway will PM you when I'm less drunk and more coherent Rob.
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If you wanna try something a little out of the ordinary I'm also based in Reading, you are welcome to come over, have a cuppa, talk bass and try out my Eden/BFM rig. The cab would handle your low A's no problem although the Eden might be a little bright sounding. (PM me if you're interested) The selction in Dawsons and Gutar works isn't great atm unfortunatley, maybe you need to make a pilgramige up to London to the Bass Merchant, Bass Centre etc. [quote name='clagooey' post='206638' date='May 26 2008, 04:30 PM']- Must be able to handle low A (as in low-B tuned down a tone, to match the lowest note on an average keyboard instrument) - Something deep and boomy; think Motown stuff. Mainly because I have developed an abhorrence to fret-buzz (hence the fretless)[/quote] Are those things related?
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Master Blaster - Stevie Wonder
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Nice, congrats on the tour, and the Astoria it's a good gig there. I'm assuming most of the gigs will be on the 'toilet circuit' in which case you shouldn't need a massive rig, just enough for stage monitoring, there will be pletny of foldback from the PA. When I do any of these venues I use exactly the same rig as when I play to 50 people in a pub somewhere, the PA more than makes up for anything else, so don't go spending loads of cash. A lot of these venues will have their own backline anyway, so you should check with them first as you may get away without taking an amp.
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[quote name='wateroftyne' post='201657' date='May 18 2008, 07:00 PM']I'm all for manageable stage volume, but the thought of backline consisting entirely of DIs into PODs makes by blood run cold...[/quote] Yeah I kinda feel the same, and I'm not sure why. Also running that amount of bass as well as everything elsethrough the monitors adds a lot of strain to the PA, a lot of smaller and mid sized gigs, there will usually be very little if any bass going through the monitors.
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[quote name='endorka' post='200256' date='May 16 2008, 10:50 AM']Yes, but sooner or later - preferably sooner - you begin to realise that there is a certain madness in pumping hundreds of watts into massive stacks of speaker cabs, only to "turn it down" again by putting ear plugs in. Far better just to play at a reasonable volume in the first place, which has the advantages that the drums don't ring, resonate and rattle so much, you won't suffer ear damage, everyone can hear everybody, including themselves, and consequently some reasonably sophisticated music may be made. If the audience want loud, they can get it through the PA, while keeping onstage volume at a polite level. And you'll only need to carry a small combo into the gig. Of course, it is a lot harder to fudge good musicianship at polite volumes levels - you don't get the instant "vibe" that loud volume appears to give you, and for the reasons mentioned above mistakes will be more obvious. It also requires far more disciplined musicianship to maintain, as just one guy playing loud can ruin the whole dynamic. Naturally, there are some exceptions, I gues punk, metal etc. are not supposed to be polite :-) Jennifer[/quote] hehe to true Jennifer, a big +1 for the pro comments
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Nothing will compare to the volume of the Samba band I play with, when we do a street procession you walk down the road watching car alarms go off. I'd hate to think of the size of rig a bass player would need to keep up!
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Interesting thread this. FWIW I've never needed more than the 250W my head kicks out. For smaller gigs this is fine, and for any larger venue you're going through the PA anyway so I can never understand the need for that massive amount of power. To my ears it also sounds better when you have to drive your system a little, leaving it all on low voulme settings always sounds a little to clynical to me, so can't really understand the need for 'headroom'
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looking for plans for a 2X15 in the same style as a bfm cab
gilmour replied to umph's topic in Amps and Cabs
Go for an Omni Top 15 with two 15's in it. For no other reason that I would like too see the build diary of one being built In seriousness, I really can't imagine that'you'll need that much volume, my omni 15TB is plenty plenty loud enough. -
[quote name='Crazykiwi' post='198305' date='May 13 2008, 10:03 PM']Well it sounds to me like you're doing the equivalent of designing a car by starting with the tyres. If you want a Flea sound then maybe the best place to start with your bass? Perhaps look at a bass which is designed more like a Stingray? MM Sub 4 for example? That's going to make a hell of a lot more difference than choosing between types of magnets and drivers.[/quote] Makes sense, but if IIRC Flea recorded Blood Sugar Sex Magic (for me 'the' definative Flea sound) using a Wal, he may have also used it on other recordings. Unfortunatley not a cheap option
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[quote name='molan' post='198229' date='May 13 2008, 08:20 PM']Absolutely hated it, boomy, woolly, lacking in any kind of definition....[/quote] Yup that's definatley 'the Asdown sound'
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Thanks Kev, unfortunatley the gig is Sunday (only got confirmed yesterday, so it doesn't leave much time to order one) [quote name='The Funk' post='193041' date='May 6 2008, 04:20 PM']Cheaper than an A/B box would be a simple cable: 2 x Female 1/4" to 1 x Male 1/4".[/quote] I thought about this, but it doesn't have the option to mute 1 channel, and with the DB this leaves a massive chance of feedback. Grrr... why doesn't the backline just have two inputs like my amp???
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Hi All, I've a gig this wekend (first gig show with a new producer) he wants me to play both bass and double bass. The ideal for this is either, a PJB head or a Radial Bassbone. Unfortunatley I'm skint, so can't get either. Also they venue will supply backline Usually when I use upright I have a cheap behringer EQ, and DI box goint into my amp, and front of huse desk, so figure I can use the EQ on the to shape the tone and volume, and the active preamp on muy elecctric to sort thae other side out, will leave the amp fairly flat. What I want is some kind of A/B box that has two inputs, and only 1 output, do they exist - are they expensive? What I see myself doing is.... I'm not sure if the DI is in the right point in the chain, I'll leave that up to the engineer, whether he wants to take one out the amp, or from each instrument or whatever. I usually put one in the chain to balance the output from my pickup (on the double). Essentialy so I can use same amp and tuner, and just stomp a box to mute 1 or the other and be able to switch relatively quickly. I'm being paid much for the gig, so can't justfy spending much money Thanks R
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I'm not a bass snob - but I am definately an Amp snob I'm afraid. My tech Spec specifies that I won't use an Asdown as supplied backline
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Hi Alex, Just to echo what Dave is saying about bedding the driver in really, the bass really really improves after a good bit of playing at volume. I used a less technical approach than Dave, I took mine to band practice and gigs, and played thorugh it lots, but by the third gig the Driver was sounding awesome. R
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[quote name='warwickhunt' post='181975' date='Apr 21 2008, 04:45 PM']Being an owner of both designs yourself, do you find significant differences between them? I'm not doubting or querying your guidance, it's just that I had a Spector Euro a couple of years back and the neck dimensions weren't massively different to a few of my Warwicks. Main difference I found was that the early Warwicks had a smoothed/rolled fingerboard edge and the Spector was quite squared off (similar to some of the recent Warwicks that I've tried). <edit> Ooops sorry I genuinely thought you had a Wick in your collection at the minute [/quote] I own both, I have a Spector NS94, and a Warwick thumb Dirty Blonde 5. The necks are totally different, the Spector has a very slim thin neck, whilst the Warwick has a really chunky D shaped neck, however from what I've read above the profile of Spectors varies. TBH I play either very little and am thinking about getting rid of the Warwick (I'll keep the Spector as it's good to have a 4 string), but they both play very nicely in different ways, I don't really find one faster or easier to play than the other. I supose they aren't ideal basses to compare the two brands as neither is a 'standard' model.
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I quite like the fat Warwick necks, but... Have you thought about a Spector - similar style to the Warwicks, but very different necks. I'm sure I read somewhere that Warwick pinched the streamer design off of Spector, but I may have made that up.