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Yep ours did that too and then turned his amp up to the point i couldn't hear mine. Was just a small gig for drummers birthday with only a vocal PA but like the professional i am i struggle thru without hearing myself properly. The consummate professional

At least i didn't need the old sock down the jeans routine. Might do now tho

I'm just after surgery to remove 2 large cysts in that area 2" across. I'm enjoying the freedom to sit comfortably without squashing bits. Dare i say its good to feel normal again. Still got the remains of the disolving stitches but its been worth it. I'll now be able to sit comfortably in my Porsche, on my Harley and even cycling. Dave

There's an operation for that now. Mrs SpondonBassed

That's the tone i'm getting and for me its pretty much something i've been looking for. Nice sound, great band. Lovin the bass tone. Nice, clean but warm sounding. Dave

What can i say.

Have 4 cats at present ranging from 3 to 20yrs old and had cats for approx 25 yrs and never experienced anything like that. Ouch not nice. Dave

They go down a storm in our 70's Glam covers band especially good old Shang-a-Lang at the end of the night. Women just love that song. Guys not so much Dave

They are good but far too many to list. Here's a few of my favs in no particular order. Big Country, Runrig, Cappercailie, Deacon Blue, Pallas, SAHB, Nazareth, Gerry Rafferty, Jethro Tull (well Ian Anderson anyway) AC/DC (in a roundabout way of course), The Blue Nile, Simple Minds, Marmalade, Bay City Rollers Rod Stewart of course the famous twins The Proclaimers. Dave

Should have given that option on the configurator. Its another way of making a few extra quid on a bass altho maybe not from me cause i'm a happy bunny Now that the strings have lost the hi-end rasp they are sounding quite nice. Bass has a nice mid sound to it. I'm liking mine more every day i play it which is every day of course. Dave

They've been ahead of the game with most things so that all makes sense to me. It takes a bit of time to get a safe site up and running. Making the new pick-ups was probably the easier part. The configurator is a nice bit of fun if you aren't buying to see what can be done on a bass of your choosing. It's also a great starting point for anyone thinking of getting their ideas down on paper All credit to Sandberg Dave

Maybe they just haven't got round to it yet. Are the Black Labels quite a new design for them ? When i bought my Overwater custom fretless 6er they fitted Armstrong pick ups and John East pre-amps. It wasn't until i spoke with Chris that he said other pick-ups and pre-amps can be fitted if that's what i want. Many manufacturers don't seem to advertise their other options unless you are serious about buying and specifically ask for something. Dave

Agree its certainly one of the best bits of software for a bass i've seen. Gives you a great idea of how your bass will look before ordering. I bought mine from Classic and Cool Guitars which Chris had spec'd as far as i know so i was originally looking at the Limelight basses but the VM4 just really caught my eye. I did use the configurator but at that time i wasn't aware of pick up alternatives and to be honest never really gave it a 2nd thought. The ones i have tried have all been the large single oles so must have been either Sandberg's or Delanos and i was happy with the tone from them. I don't think i would bother upgrading. I'm happy with mine the way it is. Dave

That's better.

Don't see anything about pick up selection on the configurator page. Guess you would need to contact Sandberg for a price change before ordering. Must admit that surprised me a bit. Should be on the config page to give people the choice upfront. Dave

In an ideal world you should get a test run in a band situation before buying

Getting this thread back on track thought i would post my fav Yamaha. Liking this a lot. My brother had the fretless version of it and sold it without telling me or i would have had it.

A wee bit out of my price range at that. There are a few 2nd hand BB3000 basses on sale at the moment for under £1k. Love the black one Dave

To be honest it would have put me off the VM4 if i had been reading it yet i'm over the moon with it so i see your point Cuzzie. Dave

Agree both excellent bass manufacturers but its hard to change someone's point of view if they've had a bad experience with a bass for whatever reason. I've had the same experience but usually i just decide its not for me and move it on. I've bought WAL's Ric's, Fenders, Shergolds, Aria SB1000 & 900's and after a while they just weren't doing it for me and it was time to buy something else. That's GAS for you and i reckon that will never stop for me. There will always be another bass out there that i quite fancy having. It might well be a 2nd hand BB3000 next year.

I picked the P34 as its priced around the £1400 range and i guessed aimed at a similar market. The BB2024 is my favoured one but that's silly money and the P34 is a very nice looking bass too and i'd be happy trying both out. It may well be the cheaper range is just as good but was trying to look at price comparisons for both Sandberg and Yamaha basses. I've not tried the Sandberg VS4 basses either that are cheaper too. As i said i'm not interested in getting into this running debate about which is best. I think both manufacturers have some excellent basses with similar prices depending on what you are looking for. Not sure what the main differences are between the P34 and the cheaper range maybe the 700 series. ? Would be interested to know. You have mentioned that you like the 434 range so what's the difference between them. Pick up config is same ? Please remember that you might be drawing me into Yamaha basses and i will haunt you forever if i end up spending more money on basses Dave

Just a quick google search came up with Yamaha London https://www.yamahamusiclondon.com/Guitars/Bass-Guitars/BB-Series/ GAK prices aree pretty similar for the BB P34 Dave

I use my Zoom on audio only and the singer also uses his mobile which gives a reasonable recording too. Its good enough to hear mistakes and get levels set properly which is something my current band neds to focus on after our last gig where we used backline with vocal only PA. Keys were far too loud for a 70's Glam covers band that most songs don't actually have keys. Dave

Just looked at the BB range of Yamaha prices and they range from a couple hundred quid up to £2800 for the pro range. The P34 is similar price to the VM4 that i have altho i did pay a bit less than that. The one i was almost ordering from Thomann was circa £1400 so they have similar ranges depending on what you are looking for. I have no idea what the main differences are but the P34 below is very nice and similar in price to my VM4. Like i said before and without getting caught up in this running debate between you and Cuzzie i like the sound of the Yamaha pick ups too but you could buy that particular bass and not like the pick ups just same as the Sandberg versions. I think you'll find that no matter what bass you pick in that price range or similar from any manufacturer there will always be people who aren't happy with something and will want to change something. The problem with the Yamaha basses is that i've not seen any in shops up here so no way to try one before buying. For me both basses are excellent and i would be happy with either the VM4 or the P34 without having to change things. I've heard good things about both companies lower riced basses but again its horses for courses. A P34 could well be my next purchase as this is very nice or if i could get a hold of one of the older BB3000 basses i could be tempted maybe next year.

Current band were all playing in other bands and this was a project they all wanted to do but other commitments in the diary meant rehearsals in the first year were few and far between altho we had 22 songs sorted in 18hrs of rehearsals which were spread over one 3 hr slot a month kind of thing we found it hard to gel and to remember what we agreed on for endings. Now we record everything we do at rehearsals. That helps a lot. We also block book rehearsals now and if we can't manage a Sun afternoon because someone's either working or they know they are on a late Sat night gig we will move the rehearsal to mid week 9-12pm. The singer and guitarist have agreed this band is more fun and could be financially well worthwhile and have dropped their other bands. Singer still does solo act with backing tracks around the clubs as a Glam rock artist and he's still quite busy with that but many are Sun gigs. Drummer also doing other band gigs so its first in the diary at the moment altho he can see the potential in this band too. Its not easy keeping up your motivation and enthusiasm under those circumstances but this is a band i've always wanted to do and the guys are genuinely great to get along with. 4 off us started the band together and we've been held up a fair bit bringing in keys players. Jury is still out on whether we need or want a keys player but we'll see how it develops If its the kind of band you want to be part off and know there's a good future with them then it can be worthwhile sticking with it and as things develop your band becomes the focal point and the gigs become more frequent. For me its been worth sticking with it. That's not for everyone tho. Historically if a band wasn't gigging within a max of 12mths i was out of there. That was usually the Prog type bands with original material. The covers bands are usually anywhere between 3 weeks to 3 mths depending on how well i know the songs when i join. I reckon a good pub covers band should be up and running within 3-6mths absolute max. If not you need to make that decision whether its worthwhile or not. EDIT :- we all learn the songs before coming to a rehearsal so its generally just playing it as a band and sorting out arrangements for keys as many of our covers had no keys and endings. Good luck and hope it works out for you. 👍 Dave