fretmeister

I had no idea silk colour bothered people.

BSW. Or L6 Otto filter. The Hotone is cheap at the mo, but not very good on bass

The lack of bending down is why I went with the rack

I’m using a pair of One10 and they cope with everything I throw at it.

The compressors in Helix are brilliant. Very pleased with them indeed. I don’t use octave so I’m the wrong one to ask about that.

Buble version of White Christmas is fun to play. Fairytale of New York.

[quote name='Wolverinebass' timestamp='1507286090' post='3384486'] Fair enough, I was probably a bit harsh. I think in all honesty, were the cabs lighter and maybe £200-300 less, then there would be less comments about them that were negative. It's an unknown quantity isn't it and when you have people like those at Barefaced and Bergantino (to name but two of the higher end manufacturers) at the top of their game, why would you drop so much on something just for the badge? Of course you're right about the overheads, but doesn't that make them unsustainable? Then again, if they'd had them made in the far east and marketed them at that price there probably would be an even bigger outcry about rampant profiteering. The fact that there is only really distorted samples available doesn't inspire a lot of people I'd imagine, but that's what Darkglass do - dirt. Very well I hasten to add, but surely they're going to want to show the more versatile side of their stuff? Bit of clean? Bit of slap? Bit of pick? I hope they do as then we'll all have a better idea as to what almost £1300 of 4x10 will actually do to make it worth the money. It all seems like a bit of a marketing mess. [/quote] That last sentence sums it up completely. It's a mess. I am generally a DG fan. Love the B3K the AO, the M900, the Duality and the wonderful compressor. They are expensive but I was sufficiently content with the value for money to buy them. The cabs - High weight + high price - I see no value High weight - lower price - I might see value but not for me as I have zero desire to lift a heavy 4x10 ever again Light weight + high price - value for money for me might be possible if they were significantly lighter than what I have, or the sound is appreciably better. Light weight + low price - no point commenting as it won't happen. The cabs seem to be a perfect concept for 1985 when heavy was viewed as desirable and an indication of quality.

[quote name='Wolverinebass' timestamp='1507243468' post='3384269'] Sooooo, £90 for an amp bag isn't "gouging people?" Really?!! Admittedly, you'd have to be bonkers to actually pay that, but the point remains. That's robbery. The cabs are robbery as well. They offer no particular value and don't seem to be able to be lifted except by a crane. No samples, just marketing blurb and people are lapping it up like it's the word of God. [/quote] This is far too harsh. It is entirely possible that the profit margin is tiny. Expensive does not equal robbery. The bag and the cabs are very expensive to the point where I do not see sufficient value for money to consider buying them. But until you can say what the product and shipping overheads are you cannot call it robbery or price gouging. A bag for an amp is a low selling item. Heavy bass cabs are, in the lightweight world, a low selling item. Production expenses must be recouped. That is not robbery. That does not mean the value for money is good, or even that the product itself is a good concept to bring to market. But unless the total cost of producing a single unit is known you can't call it robbery / gouging etc.

If you are that tall would it not be easier to cut a hole in the stage?

[quote name='bjelkeman' timestamp='1507044858' post='3382996'] It is quite funny with so much negativity. Calling Darkglass products snake oil. These products are hand built in Helsinki (not the cabs), not in a sweatshop in Nanjing. Doug puts in a ton of effort to create products that some love and others don't. Maybe they are not for you, but Darkglass products are really liked by a lot of people. I really get why they aren't for everybody, but the amount of complaining makes me think some people are jealous they can't buy them or something. [/quote] Patronising bollocks. Irrespective of the amount of funds a person has products are either good value for the money or they are not. My position is that the cabs are not value for money in the slightest. The weight alone will stop many sales even if they sound twice as good as other products. The Gear Porn section alone tells you that many people on here will spend silly money on things they consider to have good value for money.

The Tecamp Puma 300 in the classifieds and a Barefaced One10. Very light weight and sounds great.

Darkglass Super Symmetry Origin Cali 76 Compact bass Empress Compressor Would be one of those 3. I love them all. Difficult to pick. They are different enough to own all 3.

Smartphone and the free version of AmpliTube. Just need an interface. For iOS the L6 Sonic Port is excellent.

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1507031078' post='3382825'] Which is why I'm still procrastinating about "upgrading" my BassPod XT to a Helix. [/quote] I had sold my XT a few years before. I almost bought another instead of the Helix. But in the end I was trying to get 1 rig for both guitar and bass. Job done!

[quote name='charic' timestamp='1507020756' post='3382703'] Now all we need is for wireless send and receive in a Line6 Helix board (hoping in V2!), theoretically they could go wireless bass to board and wireless board to amp. [/quote] Won't happen. The L6 lead designer has already said so. They want a unit they can sell anywhere. Different places have vastly different wireless laws. The differences are far greater than just dealing with simple power supply issues. Not to mention that including wireless in the unit would push the price up quite a bit for something that many people just don't use. And forcing a particular type of wireless on a customer might clash with what the rest of his band use. Not to mention the same fact that BigRedX said about using the rack unit and a no latency control unit instead (as I do). From what I gather there are no plans for Helix2 for another 6 to 8 years - just the other day they confirmed there are bits inside that haven't even been turned on yet. But as with all techy things - if you like the sound today, you'll still like the sound the day after the new one appears.

Two 5 strings Two 4 strings 1 uke bass 4 guitars.

I had a 12 lb Yamaha once. Sounded great but I couldn't manage it.

[quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1506954596' post='3382258'] The singers in my band still don't own their own mics. They use mine. It's funny because it's true. [/quote] Please tell me they paid for the PA then? Or even the after show pizza?

Still charge her. If you broke her mic you'd replace it.

Didn't someone on here have a 6 string Warwick that was something mental - like 20 lb?

Bill her for every cable she breaks. That will do it. Also - I've always put my board to amp cables where people won't step.

It's huge fun. In fact I like it so much I spent 3 weeks setting up my Helix to duplicate the sound! Took a bit of doing but I got there.