Billy Apple

[quote name='Beer of the Bass' timestamp='1450742861' post='2935506'] was suggesting that it was really the next wave of bands after the Pistols who caught on in a big way with the kids on the estates across England [/quote] Maybe, but after the first wave the whole thing became much more splintered into Oi/New Wave/Post Punk/Anarco Punk/ etc etc etc. There were factions and rivalries everywhere, but I don't think it's possible to put these into class bands as there were so many anomalies. In Newcastle there were serious rows between the veggie anarcho punks dislike of studded leather jackets on Discharge fans. And the Discharge punks loathing of the Exploited Barmy Army punks or punx. And the Exploited lot hating the Dead Kennedy's lot for being clever or something. And round and round it went

[quote name='Beer of the Bass' timestamp='1450737826' post='2935444'] The same people reckoned that when bands with a larger working class following (like Sham '69) emerged, they were almost regarded as a bit déclassé, even embarrassing, by the "scene" punks. Does that sound somewhere close to what was going on? [/quote] You'd be hard pressed to find a bunch with more impeccable working class credentials as The Sex Pistols. John Lydon started life in a one room tenement in North London, moving later to a council flat in Finsbury Park. His Dad was a journeyman crane driver with John sometimes joining him as he moved about the country. Steve Jones was an illiterate petty thief who slept in the same room as his Mum and step Dad in Shepherds Bush. His parents greatest contribution was teaching him how to steal from a young age. Paul Cook was council estate working class, the poshest of the lot was Glen Matlock who seemed to have a very ordinary upbringing in Crystal Palace. Sham 69 on the other hand hail from leafy Hersham in Surrey. There name comes from graffiti that read Walton and Hersham '69 when the footy team won the Athenian league. The Cockney Rejects who are undoubtedly hard-core thugs from the East End parodied Sham '69's tomfoolery with the Greatest Cockney Rip-Off. Any-hoo, here's an interview with Steve Jones which I think pretty honest about how things came about... [media]http://youtu.be/AXoba6T2fTc[/media]

Of course I didn't search before posting this! Here's one, anyone else? http://basschat.co.uk/topic/232638-great-service-from-gees-warrington/page__pid__2401692#entry2401692

Anyone heard of or used Gee Electronics for amp repair? https://www.facebook.com/Gee-Electronics-133545083395228/

Forget to say. I had a brand new set of D'Addrio flex steels put on that I got free at the last SEBB. Kiss my face!

The Pistols music didn't have any less substance than Elvis, Cochran or any other hit artist with a three minute three chord pop song. Where the Pistols did stand out was Lydon's lyricism. His work with The Pistols and subsequently with PIL is IMHO untouchable. The guy is inventive and original and has worked with some great musicians. Steve Jones became a highly respected session player and is reported to be one of the best rhythm guitarists around. Anyway, here's Steve rocking it up with Iggy on Letterman http://youtu.be/QZT0Pw-2Rrk

[quote name='ped' timestamp='1450690485' post='2934819'] Hi guys, support has arrived - have you tried turning it off and on again? [/quote] At last, an expert!

[quote name='drTStingray' timestamp='1450617251' post='2934303'] talking about Zeppelin and the Pistols in the same breath is like doing the same with Chopin and Bobby Crush (sorry Bobby) - an outrage. [/quote] Why? Heavy riffs and drums with wailing vocals. Not so different.

So, B7K or this new Pike clone?

I think this thread should be moved to site issues. Thoughts anyone?

I think a bass will fare better in the very cold, as long as it's dry. I think the problem is with heat. Basses go in some very cold places, vans over night in winter, aircraft holds, unheated storage lock-ups kind of thing

[quote name='MacDaddy' timestamp='1450575562' post='2934059'] As Lydon charted the early part of his childhood, featured in his new book Anger is my Energy: My Life Uncensored,there was a surprising vulnerability about a man known more for puking on stage in the 70s punk era Read more: [url="http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Cheltenham-Literature-Festival-punk-rocker-John/story-23110650-detail/story.html#ixzz3uoxSmN58"]http://www.glouceste...l#ixzz3uoxSmN58[/url] [/quote] Well, the article says 'a man known for' much as it may be apocryphal. Just a legend that has grown around something like all Rickenbackers are sh*te while not actually being true. I've got the book and don't recall reading it in there. Now I'm going to have to go over it again as clearly something is wrong on the internet!

[quote name='PaulWarning' timestamp='1450526980' post='2933606'] Anarchy in the UK now it sounds like a run of the mill rock song with sneering vocals [/quote] Captain Sensible described his first hearing of Anarchy In The UK as sounding like Led Zeppelin with old man Steptoe singing.

[quote name='MacDaddy' timestamp='1450523340' post='2933542'] I think it's forgotten now, that as part of his 'act', Rotten would actually throw up, on stage. [/quote] I've never heard that and know people saw them and worked with them. Any evidence?

[quote name='MacDaddy' timestamp='1450523879' post='2933554'] That thread where the OP was told he was wrong for liking what he liked, and was told what he should like [/quote] The way I heard it was he wasn't even there.

[quote name='Hobbayne' timestamp='1450521633' post='2933522'] Glad to hear it. But the fort knox security still puts me off. I prefer to walk in and trundle round these shops at my leisure. [/quote] You buzz the buzzer and they let you in. No one comes to the door and checks you out first. I think you have to consider the area they are in. Put it this way, I don't think that Bass Direct will have a problem with Junkies running in swiping a bass and running out. I think it's either the controlled entrance or having locking hangers.

After swearing I'd never return to the Gallery after two bad episodes with a staff member (who I believe has moved on), I took my Spector up to the Gallery on Monday for a set-up. I had to put aside all my head-issues about going in, but all I hear is that Martin is the best and my Spector has never been quite right. All I can say is that I couldn't have had a better experience if they had tried. I was met by Charlie (I think). Just a real nice chap. Martin was in the cellar and he took the time to go over my bass and ask what I was after. The guy was completely friendly and helpful. I was told to ring at the end of the week as they were pretty busy. Rang yesterday morning, bass ready! Once again, great service. Martin and I share a passion for bikes, Harley's and Triumphs especially, so we had a good old natter and I went home with what feels like a new bass. Absolutely spot on! Finally the Spector is right I didn't say anything to Martin about my previous experience and I only mentioned I post here as I was leaving. So as an unknown in a shop populated by the bass cognoscenti I was treated in a first rate manner and given a first rate service and at a very reasonable price. Still smiling with my new set-up. Thank you Bass Gallery

Aren't flat boards one of Alan's things? When in Rome and all that.

I think guitars through bass amps is usually OK, but not the other way around. I think it's Doyle from the Misfits uses SVT's for his rig. It might be about watts, but I play through a 100w Burman PA head and it's loud as thunder and clean as a whistle. I've heard guitar heads will overdrive and distort very early doors with basses and lack bottom.

I did store my basses in the attic. For three months I had trouble with rats though. They won't keep the noise down and can already play better than me. Boom-tish

My Luthier recommends not to store instruments in the roof space due to the changes in temperature and especially the heat in summer. I suppose if you've had the space decked out an insulated into a proper room then it may be OK, but if it's just a roof space then definitely not.

[quote name='visog' timestamp='1450250594' post='2930855'] He had the look and the attitude for Punk but he could barely play and he admitted to throwing a bottle at a gig which blinded a women in one eye. [/quote] He was witnessed to have thrown a glass. It was not aimed at the girl deliberately as has been reported. It was intended for The Damned for a perceived slight by Vanian not telling him about an audition. It smashed on a pillar at the front of the 100 Club stage with the fragments hitting the girl. [quote name='visog' timestamp='1450250594' post='2930855'] That's before he escalated to murder. [/quote] Vicious, while arrested, was never tried for the murder of Nancy Spungen. There are accounts of money going missing from the room and a Chelsea hotel resident called Michael who witnesses testified to the NYPD had been seen with a large amount of money bragging he had robbed Sid and Nancy. I'm not saying whether he did or did not kill her, but I believe there is more to this story than meets the eye. [quote name='visog' timestamp='1450250594' post='2930855'] He was really a thug along for the ride - the puppet of McLaren. [/quote] He was actually brought into the band by John Lydon as John was isolated by Steve Jones and Paul Cook.

[quote name='borntohang' timestamp='1450267997' post='2931139'] and then you're surrounded by a bunch of other tools all daring each other to be controversial (as well as the press; look at Grundy daring them to "say something outrageous") [/quote] I didn't think The Pistols did anything controversial on the Grundy interview. They were confronted by a lazy, drunk, sexist man and they reacted in a way that any lads from their background would, which is they coated him off. What is interesting is this most 'outrageous' event was well before Sid's time and fronted by Steve Jones who is one of the major conformists in the band.