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no way, no-one plays like me. I could get someone better!! But not a replacement.

that thing over Withnail & I near the start - is it "whiter shade of pale" or something? It's a sax solo anyway and it's ace

I miss this feeling - only done local gigs recently

I think a lot of the reason using a guitar rig as well is that it pronounces your mids way more than you would ever normally do with a bass amp. I do use a guitar amp, but my pedal board sounds pretty much the same through studio monitors, so I think my pedals are doing a lot of that mid boosting. A bass big muff (for the clean blend) and some extreme EQ might get you there. I think most of the HUGE sounds come from using more than one pedal or amp, and that's why a multi-effects unit would be good, because you can experiment with all that without the expense.

guitar distortions work very well with bass, as long as the pedal doesn't cut our your low end (most do) or you have a blender to use with the pedal which will add in plenty of punch and get your low end back

ODB-3 certainly has a monstrous low end, I use mine to provide thunderring lows when needed, often blended with another dirt pedal (parallel) which is handling the top end.

IMO the newer zoom units (B2, B3 etc) are miles ahead of their older units. I just thought it'd be a cheaper way to get an idea of what you want - rather than buy a load of dirt pedals and/or blenders and keep trying them, you can get an idea of how to get your sound (IE you could try a tube screamer blended all in one box) and if you don't like the B3 in the long run, work towards replacing it with seperates. Otherwise it's pretty difficult unless you can get access to a big dirt pedal collection. I bought all my pedals blind, and it's been a pretty expensive experience!!

you probably want a Zoom B3 then

if you go to the custom shop page, there's a link for the image of the loop logic. It's pretty self explanatory there. I don't think there are prices if that's what you're after

I wouldn't get the Boss ODB-3, that's only for subtlety IMO - if you use it for a more extreme sound it just gets fizzy.

[quote name='Gunsfreddy2003' timestamp='1329212719' post='1538706'] So does this do the same as an LS2 then? [/quote] the loop logic I have is the same as an LS2 but it lets you select either A or B as well as A+B mixed, and they're all levelled out

I love octave down and fuzz but I really don't think it's going to cut it in a metal band - too mushy

Ahhh, I could do without checking them out but my guess is you want a dirt pedal that gives a big mid boost - something like a clean blended rat or tube screamer. This seems to be the sort of sound I hear on modern metal (my girlfriend listens to loads). I'm not sure what would do it in one pedal - i'd love to try out that Tech 21 bass boost pedal. I got a Tech 21 XXL recently which is very cool but probably too high gain for what you're after. EDIT: I was playing straight through my Red Llama clone the other night with just the bridge pickup and even on very high gain settings it's really punchy and loses almost no low end. I don't know if anyone uses these on bass usually though?

any particular sounds you'd like to get close to? I can think of so many different "heavy" bass sounds and ways to get them...

most recorded bass will be EQd and compressed... do you need a CD drive? You can probably download the Zoom drivers and use Reaper as your DAW

I got mine used from the marketplace here, it works great and the switches are very cleverly spaced - I can switch both loops at the same time very easily, but I don't knock the wrong footswitch accidentally when i'm just turning on one loop

I replaced my LS2 with a SFX mixer pedal like Shep - it does the same as your set-up oGREENYo in half the pedals.

thanks, i'll check that out

hmmm, I am sceptical about the effectiveness of a passive blender like that. What do you have in your chains xgsjx? Any problems with levelling? I just spent >£100 on a SFX pedal which will give me two loops independantly, or the two blended together, with no volume difference between the 4 settings (Dry, A, B, A+B ) and I would like to think it was worth it, but maybe not?

arrrgh why do I need an apple product to use this?!? I would deffinitely buy one if I could just download the pedals from somewhere and load them onto it using a USB cable.

to get a real "woosh" from a flanger wouldn't you need some distortion too?

I use my guitarists Johnson combo for the top of my bi-amp rig. I used to use the effects on it, they're pretty cool but I prefer my pedals now. What are you using the J-Station for?

I use a barge concepts blender to blend clean in with the rest of my board which is mostly two chains through an LS-2

[quote name='Rumple' timestamp='1328535522' post='1528579'] how can a box of tricks played through various speakers or headphones really sound like say an SVT with an 8x10 cab. [/quote] well, it will take some tweaking, but if you have it through a loud amp and 8x10" cab you should be able to get close... or if you're comparing your headphone sound to the sound of a SVT with an 8 x 10" in an isolation booth with the mic being fed straight to your headphones. I'm surprised that 1976 found the effects too subtle. I use a B2.1U for modulation (and some other stuff) and find the phasers particularly "over the top" but this is good for what I want.

which cuts mids, the J-Lo or ODB3? I have my ODB set with the low control quite high and the high control quite low, giving me a big bottom boost for choruses and the heaviest of riffs. It doesn't seem to cut any mids? The J-Lo apparently just distorts mids leaving lows and highs clean, which would give you plenty of control to boost mids rather than cutting.