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[quote name='D-L-B' post='942093' date='Sep 1 2010, 02:09 PM']Barring the statistical probability of someone eventually guessing right, There's not a single person out there who could listen to my recordings and tell me beyond all doubt what gear I've used to achieve each tone.[/quote] There's a member on here who swears they can tell if someone's using an ampeg rig from outside the venue.

I played a gig the other day and afterwards asked my neighbour who was playing in a band after us what he thought of the tone. He said he didn't like that "peavey sound". I pressed him on it, and he didn't have any comment on the actual frequency content, dynamics, timbre etc, he just didn't like "that peavey sound". there are all sorts of strange prejudices surrounding gear and tone.

I don't know Jake, I think perhaps more brill cream, is required.

olol, 9/10 would read again

I've stopped contributing 'cos I don't really know anything about monitors, but i'm still reading! Great thread.

I've been on holiday and only just read this news. I'm not sure what to say. I never met Si but we had lots of interesting conversations, and I will never forget his wisdom and wit. My condolences to all who are affected by this tragic loss.

As long as you reference your mixes on a decent stereo you know well...

If you just want "fat" then octave down, distortion, compression, and maybe chorus are what you want. If you ARE interested in trying all sorts of effects, and learning how to use them and what they do etc, then a multie pedal is the best way to go. If you're on a budget the zoom B2 or B2.1U are very good.

I bought a mic of Terry this week. I paid one day and received the mic within 2 days! I was very impressed - a top bloke to deal with, thouroughly recommended etc.

[quote name='clauster' post='922914' date='Aug 12 2010, 04:38 PM']No you're not, you're losing the control surface for automation. You can still do automation via the mouse.[/quote] Yeh, I hadn't really thought about it as you'd be messing with your physical faders for mixing. I'd find it weird to mix on a seperate set of faders to my automated ones, but to be fair it would be fine - drawing in automation where required, but getting your overall mix right on the desk.

[quote name='clauster' post='922609' date='Aug 12 2010, 12:32 PM']Regarding the point of why buy protools (or any DAW) and use an external mixer for mixing when you could use the built in automation - it's giving the computer less to do. So better latency, more tracks and more stability.[/quote] Yeh but you're losing the ability to automate. Horses for courses innit - my 5 year old PC manages songs with 100+ tracks and 50+ VSTs and automation. It does start to struggle at the top end of what I do to be fair, but it's 5 years old.

[quote name='Beedster' post='922534' date='Aug 12 2010, 11:37 AM'] I can't see many advantages of the Digidesign 003 over the M-Audio Projectmix (which has 8 mic I/Ps), despite the price difference of over £500, am I missing something?[/quote] No it's just that it's specifically designed for PT. The last pro studio I was in used one, but only as a controller. He had other Digi interfaces for his inputs, and these all came off a huge old valve desk.

The new 58s are cool. I have a 58beta something and it has much more top end than the old 58 I had.

well it's kind of standard to have 8 faders on your controller, and then you just switch up and down your virtual mixer in banks of 8. I suppose that's why. The ADAT input means it's easy to add an extra 8 mic inputs. But yeh, an interface/controller with 16 mic inputs and 16 faders would be pretty cool - it's just most people who have that kind of cash won't mind spending the extra for 24 channels. FWIW I hardly ever record more than 16 channels at the same time.

I do get the impression that a lot of people "in the know" don't like Cubase. I personally love it. That's because i've been using the same version (SX3) for 5 years now so I know it inside out. I found Pro Tools pretty easy to get going with. I had a pretty frustrating time on it due to a badly set up mac at uni (and I don't know how to fix macs) so that will bias my opinions. There's things like the Digidesign 003 which comes with Pro Tools LE and is designed to control it. It only has 4 mic inputs though, so again you'd be looking at a rack of pres with ADAT output. I've been having a look on studio spares and it all gets a bit confusing. I've just seen a tascam USB interface with 8 pre amps, 6 line ins and 4 line outs for £400 which I thought was pretty amazing, but I don't know if it'd work on a mac. Anyway, I reckon you need to divide off a certain portion of your budget for acoustic treatment before you decide on hardware, because it'll probably be the most expensive bit. You should be able to build a decent set up for whichever DAW you chose though.

I've used that behringer rack of pres with ADAT output, and it wasn't that bad - it's a cheap way to turn the m-audio into 16 channels. It might be cheaper to get a seperate controller and interface. I was just going to have a look for you but i'm not sure if you've decided on a DAW? Some controllers are DAW specific.

Just a little question- What's the point in using the PC like a tape machine (IE routing the mix back to individual channels on the desk) if you have a controller for your DAW? We used to do this at uni using hard disk recorders, but with Pro Tools we always used the controller - it just seems simpler and means your desk can be half the width.

Do it, set a trend.

No one has mentioned Record - the new DAW from Propellerhead. I've not tried it but it "sounds" great.

I voted Cubase, but i've only compared it to ProTools. I did like ProTools but not as much. I haven't tried Logic or Reaper which both look great.

[quote name='charic' post='919495' date='Aug 9 2010, 12:29 PM']You could find 8 channels very limiting. What kind of budget are you looking at for a mixer?[/quote] You can add 8 more with ADAT

Surely it would be possible to replicate the cab you have. Have you opened it? If there are several seperate sections - all of these could be seperate boxes. You could use neo drivers instead too? It could be worth trying to replicate the same design but in a more maneuverable package.

I like the look of that project mix!! Cool.