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[quote name='Colledge' post='861902' date='Jun 9 2010, 11:03 AM']some i agree with. i've knows people use line 6 guitar amps which sound awful and digital is the perfect wort to explain the sound...[/quote] I disagree! "awful" is the perfect word to explain the sound, and generally it's down to the way the player has his settings.

[quote name='silddx' post='861893' date='Jun 9 2010, 10:57 AM']It's more or less your first point I wanted to discuss, but I've never had any real problems live either. But you're right in that it's down to the PA / monitor situation. I just think there's a lot of negative nonsense spoken about digital modelling.[/quote] Yeh. There's one member in particular (maybe they'll come along later) who claims they can tell if an Ampeg is being used by listening from outside the venue, and would be able to tell it was a "real" ampeg or if it was a modeller - the mind boggles.

[quote name='OldGit' post='861883' date='Jun 9 2010, 10:48 AM']Yep. "Gimmicks" like telling people when you are on (by whatever means) and getting other people to tell people how good you are (by whatever means) Same ol' gimmicks that have been around since before the Beatles' grand dads were born.... only now it's a lot easier as we have t'internet, twitter , text, etc.[/quote] I think in the context of out-of-town gigs, it's much harder to tell people when you're playing, as you don't have contacts for the people, as they're out of town. Local radios and papers can help, but they are generally much more interested in helping local (IE out-of-town to you) bands. You are right that the internet makes spreading the word easier, but again, you can only communicate with your existing contacts. EDIT: But yeh I totally agree on your main principles, it's just that they're a bit vague, and my point was that pulling a crowd out of town is much more difficult than Doddy made out.

If you're comparing listening to the recorded sound of a rig with the modelled sound of a rig, then I reckon no-one can tell the difference. To try and talk about modelling in the context of live performance is difficult, because obviously you have to amp up the modelled sound, and maybe the PA is crap, or there's no wedges etc. or maybe you're using in-ears which I would imagine are lacking in ball-shaking low end.

[quote name='Doddy' post='861358' date='Jun 8 2010, 07:15 PM']I've done gigs with original bands all over the country and beyond,and have never taken a load of mates with us and have never paid to get on a bill. The gigs are there without you having to supply your own audience, or without putting your hand in your pocket. You're first gig may be quiet,but if you do a good job you will begin to draw more people next time-if you do a good job,there will be a next time despite not drawing a large crowd.[/quote] Hmmmm, i'm not sure what sort of original bands you were playing with, but it's very difficult IME to play in venues where people turn up for bands coming from out of town. We've played loads in manchester, brum and london, and on the whole they've been rather empty. After playing about 10 gigs in Manchester we started to be able to get a bit of a crowd in, but i'm talking like 20 people (who would come specifically for us). If there is a "buzz" about a band, i'm sure they can pull the crowds easily, but for a "buzz" don't you need radio support or an army of geeks posting your band all over the web or some other such gimmick?

I've had a TNT BW combo for ages. The bassist for creepjoint uses it with a behringer 2 x 10 extension, but I used it with a 2 x 12 guitar combo in the crossover output. On it's own it's not exactly "articulate" in the higher mids/highs but yeh, it's really f***ing loud.

After putting graphic and parametric EQs, compressors, multi-band compressors, all kinds of effects etc onto my bass in the studio, it gets kind of boring playing live with only a tone control to play with.

[quote name='51m0n' post='861086' date='Jun 8 2010, 03:23 PM']Why do you need more than 10 minutes for a changeover of gear?? I've been in bands on the original circuit and we could change the entire two bands' gear out (inc drums) and line check within ten minutes. You have to know what you are about, you have to be prepared to do it, you need a decent sound guy. It can certainly be done, 10 minutes is a long time, you do also need somewhere to ferry the other gear to off stage, sinice this is stage one though, you can leave band a to pack down that kit whilst band b is doing their line check. I've never been to a gig where the audiemce went home because the next band took 15 minutes to start....[/quote] Hmmm, yeh, my old band could set up in about 5 minutes flat but i've never seen another band get off stage quicker than 10 minutes, and no, i'm not exaggerrating.

[quote name='D-L-B' post='860862' date='Jun 8 2010, 12:08 PM'](Pro players aside) Gigging is ultimately a pleasure pursuit for most of us out there. So here's a question. I want to go kayaking, I can't afford a kayak, if I could afford one I don't have a car to get it to my nearest kayaking hot-spot. Would it be acceptable for me to turn up at said kayaking hot-spot and simply expect to use the kayak of whichever complete stranger I came across first who happens to have their own kayak and transport? [/quote] No but you could find out who's kayaking in the same place at the same time and ask nicely if you could borrow their's and promise to take care of it.

It's kind of horrible the way every pop song on the radio has a vocal that sounds more like a keyboard. It's what people have come to expect now though. They even seem to do it with technically good singers.

I played (drums) a beer festival on Saturday. It was in an outdoor dealy under a little tent, and we were camping over so could enjoy some beer. We were told it's be free beer for us as payment, but that turned out to be 2 free pints, which turned into cash wouldn't have bought the petrol there! Also we're pretty heavy and the crowd was quite "family orientated". Still, it went OK, but i'm thinking that next time I have to do an hour long set on the drums in sweltering heat I might avoid the 4 pints before hand.

Just a couple of comments: I did work very hard to get my first amp and it was giggable, and I took it to every gig, even when I knew there'd be a better amp to borrow. I would ask nicely and usually borrow the better gear, and I really appreciated it. I've "shared" my rig at a few gigs, and normally it goes OK, but i've had a couple of guys who seemed really nice, and looked like they were listening to me, and then went and wacked up the low shelf or similar. With my Peavey POS that can put it out of action for an hour or so as it calms down. Some guys just don't seem to care. I've been playing drums lately. Sharing shells does save a good 5-10 minutes, but, I get nervous sharing my own becuase I know I can't afford to re-skin it (no matter how cheap some of you think skins are).

Sorry I can't listen to the samples here. I've used it before, but only on a couple of notes in a song - i'd rather do another take. It can be used as a cool effect though

the echohead has tap tempo input but you'd need a momentary footswitch to use it.

It IS! I'm always getting help on here. Glad you're sorted

I lolled

heh, he e-mailed it to me too but I have no speakers at work. I converted to WMA. Hopefully he's all sorted - Pete?

That's weird. Does it play back on your phone? Has it recorded at 48Hz or something?

can't you borrow something from work? If you have a mini jack plug you could always strip the wires and tape them onto the inside of your bass's jack (yeh, I have done it, it was a little noisy!!).

[quote name='barneyg42' post='854153' date='Jun 1 2010, 09:24 PM']<<<<<-------AFTER Bit of an early one this.......late 70s/1980ish!! BEFORE------>>>>>>[attachment=51156:IMG1.JPG][/quote] I bet it tasted good though!

yeh we recorded for free at college and uni. Where are you? Maybe a BCer can help.

the jackhammer has a low control so you just turn that up.

can't wait to see it finished!

Primebass - I use a jackhammer and an echohead without pops - and this is with a LOT of compression after. [quote name='burno70' post='851772' date='May 30 2010, 12:37 PM']I'm lookin for a new dirt pedal - does this one do 'hair of dirt' or is it quite saturated? Cheers[/quote] It does both. It has OD and Dist modes - very useful IMO and pretty cheap.