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I'd like to see pics. also, did you build your own traps? Was it easy? Prices etc? I was about to start on my own but Travis Perkins never got back to me with a price on rock wool, and I managed to sort the problem with EQ. I'm going to start recording in this room soon though, so it would be better to make some traps.

IMO there's a big difference between using compression to correct a lack of dynamic consistency in your playing, and using it for tonal effect. I don't want people to be put off compression by the common view of "compression is only for people who can't control their dynamics" because it can be really useful IMHO.

I know there's a good pic of his live board in the other thread, but you really can't tell what's on the bottom layer, and I have no idea how it's routed etc.

[quote name='pantherairsoft' post='773982' date='Mar 13 2010, 11:11 PM']Hi guys, Just got back from the Karnivool gig at Rock City. For those of you wondering how Jon runs his effect processing here it is! I had a word with the tour manager and he let me on stage before they packed his board away... There are two rows of pedals at the back, one on top of the other with the switch unit at the front. The bottom row I couldn't get to correctly but there is a Tech 21 XXL Bass edition there[/quote] Thanks so much! My phone doesn't have a flash so I couldn't get a picture of his board. It was an amazing gig. They have a pro tools rig for samples and stuff. I thought it must be total overkill, so I asked the guitarist about it, and he said "it's the minimum we can get away with". I made a thread in the effects section in the hope that someone actually knows what's on the bassist's board.

On my peavey combo, I always have the bottom EQ fader right the way down. I'm not sure what frequency it is, but it just makes everything tighter, and I can go louder without bringing the clip light on.

I saw them play on saturday. The bass player's tone was absolutely bollock shaking. I took a look at his pedalboard later, there was a looper of some sort, controlling loads of pedals which were behind some perspex. The perspex wasn't exactly polished, and my vision wasn't exactly focussed. Can anyone tell me what he uses?

I thought that's what it was. There's something on the live DVD called "whamola jam" or something, and it sounds like the same instrument but he doesn't come on stage with it. It was very cool on Monday night, seriously heavy at one point.

I loved it!! I didn't know most of the songs, but i'm going to get them now! The sound was good but I thought both his mics could have been louder..? The percussionist was amazing. The funny thing is, I was so amazed by Les I never noticed the weird masks on the other guys, which my friends kept going on about. What's the name of the one stringed metal bar with a whammy on the top?

I deffinitely think you want a limiter rather than a compressor.

[quote name='Mr. Foxen' post='765363' date='Mar 5 2010, 04:37 PM']If you used a crossover and a stereo coompressor, then mix it back again, would that be a dual band compressor?[/quote] yes

I saw a band dressed as man-wolves. It was highly amusing and certainly memorable.

I've never thought of doing it off stage before. We always tried to coordinate and wore(sp?) the same home-made shirts and stuff.

You could run your clean bass into one side, keeping the peaks down, then run your pedal board with at least 4 distortion pedals (you do have one, right?) into the other side, and compress it. Then blend them together or bi-amp it for maximum bite and punch.

Someone said that "bassists in general know what they're doing with gear" - that's really not the case. I've had some total retards use my bass amp. I've also found that no matter how loud and clearly you tell them how to use it, they will ignore what you've said. I let people use my rig, but only because I know it has protection in so it'll cut out on them before it dies. [quote name='M4L666' post='764468' date='Mar 4 2010, 09:09 PM']I'm never allowed to use my own gear. I've also played gigs where I'm not allowed to EQ :/[/quote] ARRRGH How can people tell you what to use? That happened to me once, at a battle of the bands. We were a 3 peice and the other bands were 4 peices with two guitars. I was allowed to use my own bass amp, but....wait for it..... I wasn't allowed to use my guitar combo for the bi-amp rig because the other bassists didn't have one!!! Yeh, they have guitarists instead, but that doesn't matter, you have to have sh*t tone.

Shall we have a who has the biggest pedal collection (penis) competition?

I should try that!

Not as attractive on the google image search as on the film. I thought it was funny when MJ was trying to get her to do a cheesey Wild Stallions widdly widdly weeeeooooooo and she just kept shredding.

I think the MXR is fine with active or passive basses, but not sure. I doubt you'd notice a difference.

Just in case anyone's actually interested, i've done a screen shot of the page. The titles are to the right of the ads, rather than being below and to the left. No amount of cache clearing, uninstalling and reinstalling, re-booting, downgrading, upgrading, getting the latest bullshit off the manufacturers, leaving the computer off for 60 thousand infinity hours, or kicking has fixed it.

your mic input is for the onboard soundcard. You want to use an interface instead of the on board sound card, so you get an interface with an input on it, and plug that in via USB or firewire. If you just want something as cheap as possible I think behringer do a USB one.

If it works, post your diagram for us! I could do with the same box.

[quote name='mancunianfox' post='762782' date='Mar 3 2010, 11:43 AM']Erm, thats what I have done. I haven't been trying to do a passive blend. So far I have built two circuits to get this to work. One that buffers the clean signal and the send (B.Blender) and one that just buffers the clean signal (Minimal Blender). Both work with other pedals but neither works properly with the fuzz face.[/quote] I'm on about one that buffers the clean signal and the [b]return[/b]. So, the fuzz face sees a passive signal, but the clean signal is buffered after the split, and the return from the pedal is buffered.

If you put a buffer on the clean signal, but after the send, it should work. So you have input, split into clean and send, then buffer the clean after the send, and buffer the return, and blend the two.

[quote name='Doddy' post='760988' date='Mar 1 2010, 05:45 PM']I'm all for people having an opinion, but you a so blatantly wrong in this case it's crazy. The band is majorly tight, and just ace.[/quote] Heh, this is the first time ever my opinion's been wrong!! Damn, I need to work on my taste. [quote name='Pete Academy' post='761086' date='Mar 1 2010, 07:35 PM']It dispels the myth that Jacko wasn't really ready to do the gig. Looks like a massive amount of pre-production work had already gone into the show. Whatever meds were supporting him, he obviously still has it. Despite the accusations and madness, he was still one the best entertainers on the planet. And those female dancers... [/quote] I agree with all that. I was pretty shocked at how energetic he seemed, and I was impressed with the way he directed the band. (and the female dancers...)

[quote name='mancunianfox' post='762252' date='Mar 2 2010, 09:01 PM']@Jack I've made a buffer for the looper already and it works great. The problem I am having is that fuzz face type circuits work best going straight from the instrument. If there is an active circuit or a buffer before it they sound really crappy. That is why pedals like the Woolly Mammoth are notoriously bad with active basses. When I put it through the buffered effect loop the fuzz face sounds different because of the change of impedance. If I use my cheapo Behringer FZ-2 clone or my Clone Theory the looper works great because of the input and output buffers built into those circuits.[/quote] Couldn't you just buffer the return and not the send?