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Everyone knows Helium sucks tone.

[quote name='bilbo230763' post='504836' date='Jun 3 2009, 04:48 PM']We aren't disagreeing. You sound good, you groove. Just because you have no pedals doesn't mean you don't sound good. Just because you have a bad amp, doesn't mean you don't sound good. Bad sound = less convincing groove, IMHO. [/quote] It took me a bit of thinking but I get it now. Perhaps i'm becomming stupid!

Tone is very important but "that's where the groove comes from; the sound not the notes"? No!! I can groove through a sh*t amp without my pedalboard. I may not enjoy it as much, and probably won't play as well, but i'll still be able to "groove".

[quote name='OldGit' post='504634' date='Jun 3 2009, 01:11 PM']BTW what's east 17?[/quote] Don't google it at work!

IS that your "bass hat"? Everyone I know would be reminded of east 17 by that.

Just so you know and don't stop posting - i'm following this with keen interest! Cheers.

I just noticed this thread and thought i'd share my experience.... I've always used lots of pedals and distortion. I always thought what I needed was one amp for clean, and one for my pedals. One day I actually got to try it, and it was awful. So, I tried running the full range of my pedalboard, blended with a small amount of clean, all into a large full range bi-amp rig. That sounded amazing. So, perhaps a bi-amp rig will get you the sound you want, but I would do your crossover after your pedals. From the above I assume you've just got the full range of your board into the full range of 2 amps, which will no doubt sound massive. Nice!

Nice one!

I've just realised you're missing a digital delay!! I like my marshall echohead, but there's lots of choice.

[quote name='kingforaday' post='499743' date='May 28 2009, 11:57 AM']the fulltone and the VT give me all the dirt i need really...[/quote] That's impossible, everyone needs at least 4 dirt pedals.

Yeh you need more dirt.

With the kind of money you have to spend, I wouldn't be looking at multi-effects as a learning tool. You could get a TC G-major and a MIDI controller, something like that.

I love the top, but the contouring on the back is just weird! I suppose it could just be the pictures giving me a strange perspective.

I reckon you should go into a big shop and play about with one of the expensive multi-effects units for a good while, it could save you a lot of cash and space! If you're into tool though you should want a chorus!

Yeh, I suppose it would be the only way to create long sustain at low volume!

Very nice!!

A compressor can help you get more sustain, but it's kind of the wrong way to go about it. If you turn your amp up you should get more sustain. A compressor creates the illusion of sustain by making the quieter "tail" portion of the note, louder relative to the loudest "attack" portion of the note. (unless i'm talking BS in which case I apologise!)

Have you tried google? Because it says there are 6 music shops in the centre of cape town, at least one will sell basses.

How are you powering it? If the LED comes on it would suggest the power is working and the pedal is f*cked.

Does the LED come on?

I think the perception of dynamics is quite different to what "dynamics" actually are. For example, when I was gigging with my massive pedalboard, my bass sound was extremely compressed. Obviously, if anything is extremely compressed, then it's dynamic range is greatly reduced. Due to the fact that my thresholds weren't too low, I could still drop quieter for softer sections. Seperately, using different combinations of effects pedals to increase the overall volume before a limiter sounded miles louder, but obviously this was perceived volume, rather than actual dynamics. So, I could create the same effect as lowering and raising the volume of the bass (with my fingers), without actually changing the volume of what came out of the amp bass much. I'm not sure if that's making sense, I just mean you can be a "dynamic" band and have an extremely compressed bass sound.

I just can't get the same sort of massive powerful sound without using parallel compression and master limiting. It gets the sound I want in the studio, and does exactly the same on stage!

I don't minid my spacing small or large. I play a lot of guitar, baritone guitar, 6 string bass with wide spacing..... It makes no difference to me. The two things I love most about this bass are the black pin stripes, and the contouring on the top - the way it's flat or "sharp" in places but all so beautifully smooth.