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Not had experience but make sure to record the data as well as the sampled sounds, that way you can mess with it later.

Are you going to have a drum machine or sequencer instead? Wont the songs sound weird without drums?

The Funk - No problem, perhaps you'd like to come round and watch it on my projector screen with mavis and gertrude? [quote name='ste_m3' post='271072' date='Aug 27 2008, 03:18 PM']Twat.[/quote] Is there any need for that? If I was more of a twat i'd have reported you to the mods for being so abusive. If I was as much a twat as you insinuate i'd insult you back! God knows why you're calling me a twat?

Grilf - nice one. Do you mind if I borrow that word for my new DVD? Confessions of a Grilfer.

[quote name='The Funk' post='270906' date='Aug 27 2008, 12:28 PM']I don't know what this says about me but I read the title as Old Breasts - and then ventured inside for a peek.[/quote] I just googled granny in image search. Do not do the same if you have "safe search" turned off!... ...unless like me you have certain disgusting fetishes.

[quote name='Finbar' post='271044' date='Aug 27 2008, 02:53 PM']Yes Messing about with crossovers is something I haven't thought about much as my mind isn't very technically inclined. I am curious though, but don't really know how to go about it.[/quote] Try it with your guitarist's amp, just turn all the bass down on that and turn the highs down on your bass amp, play through them both at the same time and feel your c*ck grow.

It sounds to me like total overkill. If you want to blend a clean tone with a distorted one at the end of your effects chain you could do it with a pedal. Also, you could mix the two pres you like into just one power amp no? Maybe you should try bass - pitch shifting - split - A Dirty amp with pedal board in loop - B clean amp. I reckon if you have the money and desire for a dual-amp rig, you would probably do better using your pedal board going straight into a proper bi-amped rig i.e two amps crossed over. A good test might be to take a line out or something from your existing set up, and feed that to your guitarist's amp (turn down the bass!).

[quote name='BassManKev' post='270798' date='Aug 27 2008, 09:52 AM']yes, but a £189 board?? i dont think anybody [i]needs[/i] a board that costs that much! make your own![/quote] I didn't look at the price to be honest. I would make my own, but some people prefer to buy something that is proffessionally done. As it happens I managed to get a keyboard flightcase in exchange for a phone!

I don't get it to be honest. You want your pedal board going into 2 different pres, one of them distorting the whole time? I know people will use a dirty amp and a clean amp at the same time to get a great sound, but if you have a good dirty tone on your pedal board..... I use a bass combo and a guitar amp at the same time, all after my pedal board. My pedal board has a clean blend, and the amps are crossed over. Adding an extra bass amp to this might be fun for volume, or adding a bass amp for a clean signal would be good, but then I wouldn't use the blend on my pedal board, but adding a distorted amp to the set-up? That would ruin my tone and leave me embarassed at quiet sections! I'm sure you're making sense as you've have some replies, but could you explain in lamens terms what the point is?

When i'm gigging I need a board way more than I need an extra bass!

[quote name='Crazykiwi' post='223116' date='Jun 20 2008, 05:42 PM']I'm too shocked that my opinion of your band would have such significance to say anything at this point in time! [/quote] I know it's old, and a bit negative so probably doesn't need bringing up again, but what did you mean?

I think regarding bands that p*ss-off early - it's not always that simple. We used to do loads of gigs quite a way away from our home. If a headline band was rally good, or really nice then we might stay and watch, but more often than not we would leave early so that we could actually get up for work the next day.

I was quite stuck in the "three-peice is best" mind set for quite a while. It works well for the kind of thing I like to play, so that's why. However, there have been good examples on this thread of some great bands (i'm mainly thinking of radiohead) who have more than 1 or 2 guitarists and work well. I remember seeing a band headline the sugarmill in stoke after we played a support slot, and they had 3 guitarists all playing exactly the same thing ALL of the time (except for a couple of solos). It's so boring, contributes nothing, makes the stage look untidy, and it SOUNDS messy! You can have as many people playing whatever instument they like, as long as they are working together to contribute to the music rather than just the volume.

check [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=25912"]here[/url]

I would imagine the big muff blended with the DHA would sound rather fiendish!

I reckon if a riff needs to sound heavy or "beefy" then you need to play the roots of the riff on the bass. However, if the song is "all riffs" then there will be no contrast. Decide which parts need to be heavy, and which parts need to "drop out" a bit. Then in the dropped out bits, play less notes and work out a rythm that fits well with the drums (or work out a rythm and tell the drummer what to play). That's what I do! For example in a band (i'm playing drums) we have a song where the guitar part is basically one chord sequence played with a "constant" rythm, down strokes on every beat or something. This is for the chorus AND the verse, but to make them sound different the bassist made up a funky bassline that's in the same key but nothing to do with the changing roots for the verse, and then just copied the root notes for the chorus.

Nice. Is the LS-2 blending or switching?

[quote name='Toasted' post='270205' date='Aug 26 2008, 01:10 PM']It could. You could switch it to be either buffered or true.[/quote] If you switch it then it's not both! My point being it can't be both at the same time. If a pedal has a buffer on while the effect is off, then it's not true bypass, and vice-versa. Given that this is the case, I don't understand how "the VFB-jr is buffered and true bypass". Maybe he means that the effects loop is buffered and when you switch it out it's true bypass? With the LS-2s buffered loops, the difference would be the true bypass function, not the buffer. Am I being stupid again?

[quote name='ste_m3' post='270176' date='Aug 26 2008, 12:51 PM'][/quote] I couldn't fit my tone in there to blend it. It's too phat.

[quote name='Finbar' post='265977' date='Aug 19 2008, 11:29 PM']I'm guessing if you don't need the options the LS-2 has, the VFB-jr is buffered and true bypass? And smaller board footprint.[/quote] It can't be buffered AND true bypass!! The LS-2 is good for all of it's different functions, and good for the fact that you have two volume controls for each loop rather than a mix pot. The VFB has only one loop so you can only use it to blend clean with one loop, rather than blending two loops. I use my VFB to blend clean with my LS-2 which I used to mix two different effects chains.

If I was using the ends of my nails to try and get a pick sound by attacking the strings really hard, I would be worried about breaking my nails off! I break nails just from popping though so maybe it's just me?

[quote name='1976fenderhead' post='267141' date='Aug 21 2008, 03:36 PM']*just an edit to add that the wah effect sounds duller to me if I put the compressor after it...[/quote] Compression has the (sometimes) unwanted effect of reducing highs. Some compressors compensate for it, others don't!

[quote name='Archetype' post='270129' date='Aug 26 2008, 12:01 PM']its suggested that the best method is: Bass -> inserts (EQ, gate, compressor) - > Amp -> Effects loop (distortion, reverbs, delays, etc). This way you can usually always maintain a good blend of wet and dry signals. And of course always think about your effects orders. the likes of gate and compressors. easier to gate a signal first then compress it. rather than gating a signal with the smaller dynamic range. Or just go with what you think sounds best [/quote] I think that you may be thinking more in the context of a studio mixing desk. You would use "inserts" as they are 100% wet, and you would use "sends" as you can change the amount sent to this loop. In the context of bass amps, there are not that many with effects loops that you can adjust the mix (are there?).

It all depends! If you put a compressor before pedals, you will limit the way that they react to dynamics. If you put pedals after your amp's pre-amp, then they could be overdriven by the louder signal. This might be good, but might be bad. I used EQ pedals to drive certain distortion pedals harder, so if you're doing something like that then using the pre-amp to drive them instead would make sense. If you have no other effects at all - putting the compressor in the loop could mean that you are giving it such a hot signal that the threshold control is useless. It could also lead to a loss of high (or boost of low) end which could be (un)desirable after the pre-amp depending on what kind of tone you get out of the amp-pre-amp rather than your bass's pre-amp. You might want to try bass>comp>FX return, completely bypassing the pre-amp. I think if you understand how compressors work, and what an effects loop is, then you should be able to experiment and figure out what works for you. There are reasons for the differences in sound before/after pedals/in a loop but being that the sound is subjective there can be no set rules.