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Are any other bands on? Maybe you could contact them to see if you can borrow a rig.

Maybe another important point would be - know what you want your sound to be. Have a listen to some of your favorite sounding CDs and try to pick out the bass tone. Maybe there's a section where it gets really distorted, or maybe some chorus, or maybe there's loads more low end in the chorus section. Try to figure out what's going on with the bass tone, and try to figure out why they're doing that to the sound, and then you should be able to figure out what you need/want to do with yours.

I think you don't really need any more pedals. You need to read the manual for your B2.1U!! If you had it set right, you would have a load of patches set up instead of the individual pedals you want, and then you could make it easy to switch between patches. I would: Wipe some patches clean on your Zoom. patch one - Set up nothing but an octave effect patch two - set up nothing but a phaser - play with the rate and depth of the phaser, as well as the mix function. patch three - set up nothing but delay - play with the controls save all of these patches individually, and then switch between them a bit. Try adding your favorite amp model, or your favorite distortion setting to all of these patches. If you don't know how to do any of these things, read the manual. If you've lost it, download it. If you can't find the Zoom site, use google. etc I learned (almost) everything I know about effects and pedals from using my zoom GFX707, and now I am confident knowing exactly what sounds I want and exactly how to create them.

[quote name='BOD2' post='216198' date='Jun 10 2008, 02:33 PM']And that's a perfect approach because you KNOW exactly what you want and are able to help set it up. I don't think any reasonable soundman would object to that given that you're telling him precisely what you want.[/quote] Well, you'd think so wouldn't you. I reckon 50% of the time I just get abuse! Yeh, good advice though, if you don't know what you're after, don't bother asking the soundman to f*ck about, just go with him - he knows how to make his room/rig sound good (hopefully).

I can get a similar tone, but it takes quite a few pedals so I shan't bother explaining how. I think the answer is always to play about with the stuff you have until you get close enough.

When I gig, I get the soundman to take a DI. If he doesn't have his own box, I get him to take it pre-EQ from the amp. I also get him to mic my guitar amp (using this for the top end, but could be your tweeter/horn). Then I ask him to roll the top off the DI and the bottom off the mic, and this tends to work. Sometimes they'll think i'm telling them how to do their job, sometimes they'll appreciate that i'm helping them out. I generally just smile at them and be nice 'cos soundmen can be easily agitated.

Do you think he'd allow me to take my erbs?

I suppose you would need an exp pedal to take advantage of any whammy-like features. Otherwise, it make for a decent harmoniser (only tried it in the shop). You can use the hamonies for a more synthy tone than if you played them. There's a lot of hype about them, but there is about most discontinued boss pedals.

In my experience, no on stage, in house monitor can tickle my balls when playing the low b. We need backline!

If you have the DS-1, bottom feeder, and big muff all in one chain, blended with another chain with just the ODB-3, I reckon it'd sound monsterous!

[quote name='cetera' post='213040' date='Jun 5 2008, 10:53 AM']If only we were all rewarded with 'sausages and beer' after auditions!![/quote] Trust me, if you knew what he meant, you wouldn't be jealous.

[quote name='Kaiu' post='213079' date='Jun 5 2008, 11:51 AM']The way I see it, maybe the output level of the Big Muff is finite, i.e after a certain point no matter how hot the signal running into it, the output will always be the same?! ed[/quote] Yeh, isn't that the same for most distortion pedals? If you like overdriving the input of your amp, I would get a boost and/or OD to go just before your amp, and plug the rest of your pedals (lbm) into this.

Nice one!

[quote name='BassManKev' post='213005' date='Jun 5 2008, 10:11 AM']civil war muff that i have is the best fuzz iv ever tried hopfully the DHA im expecting will give me the valve drive sound i want, n then il be done distortion wise [/quote] I tend to get my fuzzy sound by cascading all my favorite overdrives, which is why i've never bought a fuzz - apart from the french toast which is quite muff like.

Indeed. I've never liked big muffs that much really. I'd like to try a little one, 'cos they're small enough to go on my board, but not really buying effects atm

[quote name='BassManKev' post='212985' date='Jun 5 2008, 09:47 AM']iv not used a little big muff, so maybe this is a problem, but i use a stingray with my old skool sovtek muff, works fine at full volume and nearly full gain, surely the stingray with slight bass boost is a hotter signal as any?[/quote] Try it with a new standard american one on full gain and you'll see what I mean.

What does the discombobulator do? If you bought a small tuner that would fit ontop of the psu, you might be able to squeeze an exp pedal on there for the boss wah - I love the range of possibilities this gives you.

There will be a volume drop with the big muff if the input is too hot and/or if you have the gain set too high. I suppose it's more of a "perceived volume drop". I'm not sure specifically why this is, but I have had the same problem with my guitarist's big muff. He solved it by realising that it sounds better, and it levels out the volume drop, when you turn down the gain. I'm sure someone has a better explaination/solution? There are no tubes in a little big muff!

I'll play the drums for anyone! (I am sh*t).

I'm almost exactly the same as The Funk on this. I sit down with my guitar, or my bass, or at my drums (have a fat smoke) and play away. When I play something and i'm blown away, I record it on my phone. Around 30% of the stuff I record, I would actually use when i'm sober, the rest gets deleted as sh*t. I also "dream" around 5% of the stuff I write. This can be day-dreaming, but also more interestingly, REAL dreaming. This stuff is far more likely to be good - i.e I would use 100% rather than 30% of the stuff I record from day/dreams.

I think that every member in a band will always expect the same level of commitment from every other member, and so it can get really quite frustrating when the reality of the matter (everyone does things for their own reasons) hits you in the face. Our drummer left recently, and while it left me feeling angry and depressed - as though I had wasted too much of my time effort and money on a band that would eventually lead no-where - I realised at the same time that he had been committed enough to spend time money and effort on the band, and that his level of commitment was breached at a certain point due to outside circumstances - and that could happen to any one of us. So, yeh, it's an awful situation, but I don't think blaming the guy is the right and/or most sensible thing to do.

I think a lot of bassists tend to be happy with one constant sound. That's cool for some, but I prefer to have variety. My bass tone contributes as much to the "arrangement" of a song as the dynamic feel, key, or tempo of an individual section i.e for a standard rock song I might have a mid boost for an intro riff, and then turn that pedal off so as not to crowd the vocal in the verse, then turn on some overdrive for the pre-chorus, and on top of that some bass boost for the chorus. It's what you'd do in the studio, so I don't get why you wouldn't want to do it live.

Yeh I was talking to the OP!