cheddatom

Heh, Bilbo "throwing down some metal grrrrr".

[quote name='Mr Fudge' post='216872' date='Jun 11 2008, 02:06 PM']I am seriously considering .... squeezing a knacker through our 1.5 powermate rig.[/quote] What?

A good way to work with just two footswitches, is to work in banks of 3, with the 2nd patch always the same. So, if you have a main sound (could just be clean), get that right, then copy this to every other patch on your zoom, and fill in the gaps with the other patches you create. This means that you should always be able to switch to and from your clean sound, and should mean that 90% of the time, you can set yourself up to switch to any sound. If I have two sounds that I need to switch between without going to clean first, I will program this, but that's specific to individual songs/players.

[quote name='Jase' post='216811' date='Jun 11 2008, 01:08 PM']I don't get it![/quote] Heh, sorry, no offence! I was reffering to how your mother thinks my point is a good one.

[quote name='Ou7shined' post='198484' date='May 14 2008, 08:49 AM']Did I just get told? There's so much you can gain from a sound check over a line check.......[/quote] I can understand why you like to have a proper soundcheck, but when you're playing crap venues on 4 and 5 band nights and the soundguy doesn't turn up till 7.30 but the doors are at 8, it would be seriously frustrating if you were the headline act and insisted on a sound check. We have had this happen to us!

[quote name='john_the_bass' post='216760' date='Jun 11 2008, 12:13 PM']my mum doesn't know what a DI is[/quote] She does, trust me.

[quote name='umph' post='216691' date='Jun 11 2008, 10:37 AM']well considering he used a sovtek big muff and a oc-2 on it i'm pretty sure it should do ;p i got pretty close with my octoplus and big muff[/quote] I think you're wrong about that. He uses a large array of random effects, digital modelling, and sequenced synths/keyboards all over that album AND live. I can't remember the exact combination used for Hysteria, and I can't check the muse message board for it 'cos i'm IP banned. I could be wrong though.

I have an OC-2 and I love it, and I tried an OC-3 and didn't like it. However, someone told me once that the OC-3 has an OC-2 emulation mode. Is this right? Doesn't it work?

[quote name='Jase' post='216722' date='Jun 11 2008, 11:23 AM']That's a good point there cheddatom!!![/quote] Thanks. Your mother also thinks so!

If I were you, i'd pack the DI, see if anyone minds you borrowing an amp as well, if they mind, just use the DI. Then after the gig while you're feeling good about playing together, talk to the band and ask if anyone else is bored and try and work on new stuff. If you've lost a guitarist, get yourself some pedals/a Pod! I worry that the lack of communication in my band meant that our drummer would rather have gone home and leave us in a state of suspension, than talk through the issues we had (which were mainly created by not writing enough and playing sh*t gigs with too much heavy equipment too far away).

Are any other bands on? Maybe you could contact them to see if you can borrow a rig.

Maybe another important point would be - know what you want your sound to be. Have a listen to some of your favorite sounding CDs and try to pick out the bass tone. Maybe there's a section where it gets really distorted, or maybe some chorus, or maybe there's loads more low end in the chorus section. Try to figure out what's going on with the bass tone, and try to figure out why they're doing that to the sound, and then you should be able to figure out what you need/want to do with yours.

I think you don't really need any more pedals. You need to read the manual for your B2.1U!! If you had it set right, you would have a load of patches set up instead of the individual pedals you want, and then you could make it easy to switch between patches. I would: Wipe some patches clean on your Zoom. patch one - Set up nothing but an octave effect patch two - set up nothing but a phaser - play with the rate and depth of the phaser, as well as the mix function. patch three - set up nothing but delay - play with the controls save all of these patches individually, and then switch between them a bit. Try adding your favorite amp model, or your favorite distortion setting to all of these patches. If you don't know how to do any of these things, read the manual. If you've lost it, download it. If you can't find the Zoom site, use google. etc I learned (almost) everything I know about effects and pedals from using my zoom GFX707, and now I am confident knowing exactly what sounds I want and exactly how to create them.

[quote name='BOD2' post='216198' date='Jun 10 2008, 02:33 PM']And that's a perfect approach because you KNOW exactly what you want and are able to help set it up. I don't think any reasonable soundman would object to that given that you're telling him precisely what you want.[/quote] Well, you'd think so wouldn't you. I reckon 50% of the time I just get abuse! Yeh, good advice though, if you don't know what you're after, don't bother asking the soundman to f*ck about, just go with him - he knows how to make his room/rig sound good (hopefully).

I can get a similar tone, but it takes quite a few pedals so I shan't bother explaining how. I think the answer is always to play about with the stuff you have until you get close enough.

When I gig, I get the soundman to take a DI. If he doesn't have his own box, I get him to take it pre-EQ from the amp. I also get him to mic my guitar amp (using this for the top end, but could be your tweeter/horn). Then I ask him to roll the top off the DI and the bottom off the mic, and this tends to work. Sometimes they'll think i'm telling them how to do their job, sometimes they'll appreciate that i'm helping them out. I generally just smile at them and be nice 'cos soundmen can be easily agitated.

Do you think he'd allow me to take my erbs?

I suppose you would need an exp pedal to take advantage of any whammy-like features. Otherwise, it make for a decent harmoniser (only tried it in the shop). You can use the hamonies for a more synthy tone than if you played them. There's a lot of hype about them, but there is about most discontinued boss pedals.

In my experience, no on stage, in house monitor can tickle my balls when playing the low b. We need backline!

If you have the DS-1, bottom feeder, and big muff all in one chain, blended with another chain with just the ODB-3, I reckon it'd sound monsterous!

[quote name='cetera' post='213040' date='Jun 5 2008, 10:53 AM']If only we were all rewarded with 'sausages and beer' after auditions!![/quote] Trust me, if you knew what he meant, you wouldn't be jealous.

[quote name='Kaiu' post='213079' date='Jun 5 2008, 11:51 AM']The way I see it, maybe the output level of the Big Muff is finite, i.e after a certain point no matter how hot the signal running into it, the output will always be the same?! ed[/quote] Yeh, isn't that the same for most distortion pedals? If you like overdriving the input of your amp, I would get a boost and/or OD to go just before your amp, and plug the rest of your pedals (lbm) into this.

Nice one!

[quote name='BassManKev' post='213005' date='Jun 5 2008, 10:11 AM']civil war muff that i have is the best fuzz iv ever tried hopfully the DHA im expecting will give me the valve drive sound i want, n then il be done distortion wise [/quote] I tend to get my fuzzy sound by cascading all my favorite overdrives, which is why i've never bought a fuzz - apart from the french toast which is quite muff like.