cheddatom

£30?!?!?! FS I would buy a couple of baking trays and bend them.

When you're saying "rackmount hardware" isn't cheap, you're just talking about a metal box the right size and some rack ears right?

You could surely build it for less than £70? 3 jacks, 2 pots, 1 switch, some leds resistors, wires and a battery clip - £25 at the most? And a case wouldn't cost more than £20 surely? To be fair, I haven't bought any of these things in a long time so I wouldn't really know.

I think it should be as simple as 3 jack sockets, 2 pots, 2 LEDs and 2 resistors, and a switch. You can find info on the net on how to make a pot into a volume control, the rest is simple.

That's a very helpful post! Listen to Bod2!

[quote name='Higgie' post='217001' date='Jun 11 2008, 04:28 PM']That's correct. But why pay for an emulation when you can get the real thing cheap as chips?[/quote] They're not much different in price are they? I would assume the "emulation" is as exact as they come?

[quote name='Jobiebass' post='216999' date='Jun 11 2008, 04:25 PM']ahh yeah, bypass=tuner yeah? cant say ive noticed if it stops or not. confident enough to say it doesnt though.[/quote] Lol! Give it a real try. I would also turn off the noise reduction just in case, then put it in bypass. It shouldn't be any different to your standard clean tone. You shouldn't need to EQ it at all.

It depends. I would read a couple of the links people have put here to get you more aquainted with EQ and compression. I would put the limiter between Zoom and amp. On the Zoom, there are several different "modules" - drive, Eq, modulation, reverb ......(I forget them all) To get a totally dry patch, you have to go through each module and turn it off. I would do this to a new patch, and see if your clickiness is still there after. Basically, with all of the effects modules set to off, you should have the same sound coming out of the amp as you do when there's no zoom in between. What about when you use the zoom's bypass (pressing both switches at the same time)?

I wouldn't have the limiter "on full". Read the manual and play with the limiter as though it's a single pedal - you should be able to calm the spikes of your slapping without effecting your fingerstyle. The noise of your fingers hitting the strings, pick, and slapping etc is just high frequencies. Maybe what you think is a dry patch actually has some top end boost in the EQ section? If not, why not EQ out some highs? There's nothing built into the Zoom that will make you always have a "clicky" sound.

Well, you're on about a limiter and an EQ. You could try the limiter on the zoom. I like it! IMHO I would set up your zoom: 1. dist 2. clean 3. your clean patch with treble/slap sound/whatever 4. clean 5. your clean patch with phaser 6. clean 7. your dist patch with phaser 8. clean 9. your clean patch with digital delay and so on.... If the limiter on the zoom is good enough for you, I would tend to apply this to EVERY patch. If it's not good enough, the boss pedal is great and would stay on all the time after your B2 if you so wished. If you want an EQ pedal to boost, why not set up a boosting patch on the Zoom? I'm only saying all this because I have gone through a rather expensive route of finding my sound, and I think most people can avoid this.

Heh, Bilbo "throwing down some metal grrrrr".

[quote name='Mr Fudge' post='216872' date='Jun 11 2008, 02:06 PM']I am seriously considering .... squeezing a knacker through our 1.5 powermate rig.[/quote] What?

A good way to work with just two footswitches, is to work in banks of 3, with the 2nd patch always the same. So, if you have a main sound (could just be clean), get that right, then copy this to every other patch on your zoom, and fill in the gaps with the other patches you create. This means that you should always be able to switch to and from your clean sound, and should mean that 90% of the time, you can set yourself up to switch to any sound. If I have two sounds that I need to switch between without going to clean first, I will program this, but that's specific to individual songs/players.

[quote name='Jase' post='216811' date='Jun 11 2008, 01:08 PM']I don't get it![/quote] Heh, sorry, no offence! I was reffering to how your mother thinks my point is a good one.

[quote name='Ou7shined' post='198484' date='May 14 2008, 08:49 AM']Did I just get told? There's so much you can gain from a sound check over a line check.......[/quote] I can understand why you like to have a proper soundcheck, but when you're playing crap venues on 4 and 5 band nights and the soundguy doesn't turn up till 7.30 but the doors are at 8, it would be seriously frustrating if you were the headline act and insisted on a sound check. We have had this happen to us!

[quote name='john_the_bass' post='216760' date='Jun 11 2008, 12:13 PM']my mum doesn't know what a DI is[/quote] She does, trust me.

[quote name='umph' post='216691' date='Jun 11 2008, 10:37 AM']well considering he used a sovtek big muff and a oc-2 on it i'm pretty sure it should do ;p i got pretty close with my octoplus and big muff[/quote] I think you're wrong about that. He uses a large array of random effects, digital modelling, and sequenced synths/keyboards all over that album AND live. I can't remember the exact combination used for Hysteria, and I can't check the muse message board for it 'cos i'm IP banned. I could be wrong though.

I have an OC-2 and I love it, and I tried an OC-3 and didn't like it. However, someone told me once that the OC-3 has an OC-2 emulation mode. Is this right? Doesn't it work?

[quote name='Jase' post='216722' date='Jun 11 2008, 11:23 AM']That's a good point there cheddatom!!![/quote] Thanks. Your mother also thinks so!

If I were you, i'd pack the DI, see if anyone minds you borrowing an amp as well, if they mind, just use the DI. Then after the gig while you're feeling good about playing together, talk to the band and ask if anyone else is bored and try and work on new stuff. If you've lost a guitarist, get yourself some pedals/a Pod! I worry that the lack of communication in my band meant that our drummer would rather have gone home and leave us in a state of suspension, than talk through the issues we had (which were mainly created by not writing enough and playing sh*t gigs with too much heavy equipment too far away).

Are any other bands on? Maybe you could contact them to see if you can borrow a rig.

Maybe another important point would be - know what you want your sound to be. Have a listen to some of your favorite sounding CDs and try to pick out the bass tone. Maybe there's a section where it gets really distorted, or maybe some chorus, or maybe there's loads more low end in the chorus section. Try to figure out what's going on with the bass tone, and try to figure out why they're doing that to the sound, and then you should be able to figure out what you need/want to do with yours.

I think you don't really need any more pedals. You need to read the manual for your B2.1U!! If you had it set right, you would have a load of patches set up instead of the individual pedals you want, and then you could make it easy to switch between patches. I would: Wipe some patches clean on your Zoom. patch one - Set up nothing but an octave effect patch two - set up nothing but a phaser - play with the rate and depth of the phaser, as well as the mix function. patch three - set up nothing but delay - play with the controls save all of these patches individually, and then switch between them a bit. Try adding your favorite amp model, or your favorite distortion setting to all of these patches. If you don't know how to do any of these things, read the manual. If you've lost it, download it. If you can't find the Zoom site, use google. etc I learned (almost) everything I know about effects and pedals from using my zoom GFX707, and now I am confident knowing exactly what sounds I want and exactly how to create them.

[quote name='BOD2' post='216198' date='Jun 10 2008, 02:33 PM']And that's a perfect approach because you KNOW exactly what you want and are able to help set it up. I don't think any reasonable soundman would object to that given that you're telling him precisely what you want.[/quote] Well, you'd think so wouldn't you. I reckon 50% of the time I just get abuse! Yeh, good advice though, if you don't know what you're after, don't bother asking the soundman to f*ck about, just go with him - he knows how to make his room/rig sound good (hopefully).

I can get a similar tone, but it takes quite a few pedals so I shan't bother explaining how. I think the answer is always to play about with the stuff you have until you get close enough.