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[quote name='Johnzy' post='82130' date='Nov 1 2007, 10:25 AM']I probably play bass because of my mother's love of paul simon and his '80 albums. You can call me al was the first song I remember hearing and working out what the bass was! ..........[/quote] Yeh! Totally the same for me. I used to play basslines on my guitar though. The first bassline I learned to play on the bass was "carousel" (I think) by Blink 182 'cos my mate at school wanted to start a punk/pop covers band and thought it would challenge me. There wasn't much of a challenge in that band! Edit: Just to say L-mac - Most amusing.

If you set up a load of clean patches, 10 apart, and you can jump 10 with a footswitch, then, you wouldn't need to "toggle whilst playing", assuming you know where your patches are. I don't know if i've explained this properly, but it solves your problem.

I consider myself to be a bit of a recording engineer, and my comment was made with my engineer's hat on.

I really don't buy all this hype. I can get a good sound to cut through using a Fender, or a Yamaha, or a Schecter, or an Ibanez or...........

Ahhh, sorry!! I do have one but haven't tried that. The easiest way to get around this is to save a clean patch at say, position 9, and copy it to every 10th bank. Then get the extra footswitch to jump 10 banks. Then program your other patches in patch 8, 10, 17, 19, 26, 28 etc etc. This is what I do (kinda).

Do you have the Digitech psu? Or a psu that is supplying enough current? Other than that, I don't know sorry, are you using it for high-gain distortion? If so, I would expect some horrible noise. I don't really like the Digitech units for distortion.

Well, if you take the B2.1U as an example, it's obviously designed with home use in mind, with the USB interface etc. and when you add the extra footswitch, you can program this for bypass or tuner mute, or delay hold or whatever, but most importantly bypass. A very well designed pedal in my opinion, that you can add one cheap footswitch to, to make giggable.

I would keep sending him to piano lessons, and teach him a bit of bass on one of yours. Lend him one if they're not that precious. I think the combination of lessons on piano with fun/creative developement on the bass would "stand him in good stead".

I was refferring more to the switching options you get, rather than the actual quality of effects. A multi-effects unit that has silence between patches, or is difficult to operate with your feet, is fundamentally flawed, with respect to gigging, but maybe that's not it's intended purpose. As far as the ME50B goes, I wouldn't really know! If it's in "stompbox mode" or whatever it's called, then you would expect that pressing the same button you pressed to turn on an effect, would also turn it off! If not, then, yeh, that seems crap, but, it doesn't mean all multi-effects are fundamentally flawed. I find that having effects in a loop, whether they be multi effects or singles boxes, is useful, as you can take time setting up a sound before you kick it in. It's only my opinion, but I think that multi-effects are only worth buying, if you need to switch between different complicated effects settings. For example, if I use 3 different gain settings on one of the dirty patches on my Zoom, it would take 3 copies of the same pedal, with different settings, in a midi controlled rack, or in a looper on a massive board to replace the zoom with single pedals.

[quote name='funkysimon' post='81677' date='Oct 31 2007, 12:21 PM']... still, you know what they say about guitarists with big feet.[/quote] Big Heads! Seriously, I have to play with thinner shoes than I normally wear, so that I don't hit two pedals at once by accident.

Metalzone's are great on bass! I got an XP-100 cheaper than you can get new WH-4s or any other whammy. Maybe look for one of them?

I don't think that the lower end of multi-effects, where you have this difficulty, are aimed at gigging musicians. I use my B2.1U, but, it's part of a bigger setup, in a loop. I think the GT-6B works fine, and I would have no problem with the switching capabilities it has. You could add your own footswitch, to fool the unit into thinking you're pressing both switches at once. I used to use a zoom GFX707, which I added 2 footswitches to, to allow me to switch up and down by 10 patches.

I think your Daphon might be similar to the Ibanez CP5? If so, it should sound great!

Try the 22 through your bass amp, the 13 through your guitar amp! I like them together, but, I'm not running them through seperate amp chains, i'm running them through a bi-amp rig.

PM'd! I want to see how this compared to my BOB the blender, as i'm having issues with feedback etc.

Have you tried the DJ22? A DJ13 into a DJ22 through my rig sounds awesome.

Cool, thanks, i'll try and give it a listen tonight, although i'd obviously prefer to hear you and your monstrous rig!

What's your band?

Custom hat?

Oh my god Joe, that is a rig to wreckon with! Where can I hear it? I thought about doing this kind of thing before, but, I decided to try to fill the frequency range of the guitar using my effects and other playing techniques, rather than actually pitch shifting my bass.

I always play with my 6 string like: A#, C#, G#, C#, F#, B I just buy the heaviest guage strings I can find. Generally the shops around here are pretty crap and have to make up a set of strings that aren't standard guages. I'm guessing this could be bad for the bass? So I suppose I need the same kind of advice as you, even though standard heavy Elite 5 string sets seems to work fine.

[quote name='funkysimon' post='78076' date='Oct 23 2007, 10:33 AM']Don't over-use effects or flashy techniques. Sure, autowah rocks bells, but use it all the time and it loses impact factor.[/quote] Yeh, I think with respect to creating music in general, you have to create a structure using "contrast", which doesn't necessarily mean dynamics.

It would be so funny to actually see someone keep playing their out of tune guitar (no bassist is this stupid) staring at their tuner, going mental at it for not tuning their guitar.

That's a lot of money for a muff. You should try making one!

Heh, well, i'm going to try and get rid of 2 pedals and fit some more on there. I can drill holes for cabling, and hopefully fit some stuff underneath the board etc.