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[quote name='phil.c60' timestamp='1497973090' post='3321741'] Or, use one of these: www.porteranddavies.co.uk/products/bc-gigster/. Specifically designed so the drummer can hear (well feel, to be more accurate) the bass drum when playing quietly. Works for our drummer. He doesn't use it at all gigs, but does on the ones where we have a real noise issue and we really have to rein it in. [/quote] I find these really uncomfortable

nothing to add but I hope you find the knob of your desire

I guess if you're playing cymbals quite loud, and your bass drum beater is a felty/foamy/soft thing, then the dull thud isn't going to cut through quite as much. If you're sat right on the kit, that might be more of an issue than being further away where you might be able to appreciate the low frequency punch of the bass drum a bit more relative to the cymbals I have a wooden beater with no front head for when I'm playing rock/metal as this gives me plenty of high-mid "thwack" and I have no problem hearing it un-amplified vs full stacks EDIT: Sorry, to be more direct, no, there's nothing about the bass drum that should make it quieter than the rest of the kit from the drummer's POV

[quote name='xgsjx' timestamp='1497958022' post='3321584'] There's a phrase I've never really understood, though I get fully what you mean. Vanilla. Vanilla isn't cheap, it has a unique flavour & just about everybody likes it. Cheap "vanilla" ice cream on the other hand, not many people like it & it doesn't even taste of vanilla! [/quote] I quite agree, but we all know what the phrase means and I don't know what else to say instead. I didn't mean a bland bass sound, but I did mean "every day" or "common"

hmmm, I'm a drummer and I used to like to mic up the kick drum. I found that when playing rock music, I'd get carried away twatting the snare and cymbals extremely hard, and couldn't get the kick drum to match. Obviously that's crap technique but it never occurred to me to change it until I started playing folk in tiny pubs with no drum mics - you have to do your own mix then! So now I match the level of the kick drum to the others (well, slightly louder actually) so it doesn't matter if I'm mic'd up

If you think your bass sound is best left to the sound engineer, then you probably have a very "vanilla" bass sound, and if so, you're correct. I have a very dirty bass sound indeed. I've done the same as others and just have an amp sim with DI out at the end of my chain, and give the soundman that

[quote name='solo4652' timestamp='1497873627' post='3320968'] This is pretty accomplished, I reckon; [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YnYgbb0U1g"]https://www.youtube....h?v=2YnYgbb0U1g[/url] [/quote] hmmm, yeh, ace techniques but he keeps dropping the groove trying to keep up with himself! still, I would love a cajon and a room that sound so good! My cajon is a build your own kit thing, and it really does sound crap (although it's fine for recording as I can use EQ and compression etc)

[quote name='solo4652' timestamp='1497872896' post='3320961'] So, would we regard this as good or naff cajon playing? [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwUTIjyXWHE"]https://www.youtube....h?v=hwUTIjyXWHE[/url] [/quote] pretty damn good! But he has a bunch of the other accessories too

just catching up and I've actually learned something, thanks to everyone!

a cajon played well is ace. It just so happens that most people play them badly. You so often see drummers sat on the cajon kicking the ground where their kick pedal should be, and playing constant right hand rhythms with the snare sound etc

A whole load of technical problems and a soundman out of his depth put off the whole band on Saturday. Everyone made mistakes. Not fun when you're on stage but you have to keep smiling, and of course as usual the audience had no idea and loved the whole set

[quote name='Woodinblack' timestamp='1497538557' post='3318972'] If money were no object I would just do what worked. In my case, money really isn't an object when it comes to what I have, I have the isolated supply I have now as it works and it is easy, so it will stay until there is a problem. I cant stand having extra noise, but I am also not going for hifi down the dog and duck. [/quote] right but you'd up your game for the Tickled Trout I'm sure! What got me thinking is that a guy who came across as an "expert" told me ages ago that the noise on my pedalboard was all due to grounding problems, and that he would make me a power supply to give all the pedals a "common ground". He never did it, and I never really understood what he was on about, but once I got a decent supply my noise problems disappeared and I never thought about it again until the recent spate of posts about isolated supplies

I'm pretty sure I have experienced that before. I assumed I was getting the noise as I was drawing too much current for the supply, although the numbers seemed OK but in general, are there are plus-points to a daisy chain? Would it be possible to reduce noise in a particular chain by switching from isolated/separate supplies to one supply with a daisy chain? Obviously disregarding digital pedals there. Or is it best practise to always have isolated/separate supplies? I suppose the question is: If money were no object, would you want an isolated supply for each pedal? Or would there be occasions where a daisy chain is preferable?

OK, that's fairly simple, so any digital pedals will introduce noise if they're on a daisy chain, but if they're on an isolated supply, or their own separate supply, they won't ...I should probably get an isolated supply then!

[quote name='Ghost_Bass' timestamp='1497458708' post='3318367'] ... i only get noise when i kick in the b3k... I'm sure that if would use a separate PSU for the b3k the noise would lower or even disapear [/quote] I would expect that as it's a dirt pedal, I'm not sure why you'd expect it to disappear with a different PSU? Has anyone got a handy link to explain this to me? It's just that someone once told me daisy chaining would be "cleaner" but now everyone's going isolated... I haven't got a clue on the science of it

a lot of people seem to be going to isolated PSUs at the moment, rather than a huge daisy chain. I was once told that I'd get less noise if all of my pedals had a "common ground". Would that have anything to do with whether they're isolated? I always run mine off daisy chains from a Golyke Powerall and/or a Diago Powerstation. If I have some serious dirt/fuzz going on then I get a lot of noise, but if I don't, I don't. I just thought it'd be good to get general thread going about PSUs as I'm sure there are some experts here.

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1497290574' post='3317095'] ...We had been struggling for a few weeks and really needed a good gig under our belts. Blue [/quote] I know that feeling only too well!

The Sun Inn in Llangollen on Saturday night. I like the pub and it's punters. We've done it a few times before but it seems quite far out of the main town, and it's always been hit and miss for us in the past. We had agreed not to do it again but somehow it made it's way back into the calendar. Apparently it's "on the scene". Well, whatever, we got there and it turned out their soundman had let them down and so the land lady had begged a friend to come and do the sound. He was clearly struggling, didn't know the system at all, took a good hour to get anything close to workable. Anyway, it turned out he saved two scenes on his digital mixer - one for the acoustic warm up act, and one for us. Then the mixer was locked and he went home. The land lady knew how to switch scenes but that was it. When we got on stage I couldn't hear a thing, just mush and (my own) drums. So from the band's POV it was a real struggle and we weren't that great. However, once again the audience were appreciative, complimentary afterwards, bought CDs etc... so like we all know, it doesn't matter if we're crap, as long as we keep it going and try not to let on, they'll love it [quote name='blue' timestamp='1497200126' post='3316487'] When a gig is sh*t, I'll admit it... [/quote] But it sounds like you had a good one Blue?

I get this with my Boss DD-20 if I have too many other pedals on the daisy-chain. I guess you need more juice (ma) from your PSU

The reason for not quitting one of my bands is the sheer amount of gigs they get, and generally good ones. I love playing the gigs! The reason for not quitting another one of my bands is the truly amazing music - this band never gigs

"Something To Smile About" festival in Doncaster on Saturday. What an ace festival! Small, but totally independent, which probably has something to do with the amazing atmosphere. Well, that and the sunshine. A very enthusiastic crew who were eager to get us on stage and set up. I was a bit confused as half the drum riser was missing, and so I had to wait for the previous band to finish before I could set up. It became clearer once I realise they only had one set of steps! We had to get on the stage so that they could move the steps to the other side to get the other band off!! The baron player from Folk The System played a couple of tunes with us which was ace, so all in all a great gig We were supposed to play the acoustic festival in Uttoxeter on Sunday but it was cancelled for one reason or another. A shame as if I'd known I might have stayed in Doncaster!

what a nightmare! I hope Belper Goes Green was good?

beautiful!

Thanks Sammy