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[quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1464880670' post='3063470'] I hope you don't feel like that... [/quote] Sorry, I've just had a re-read and I realise I've been misinterpreting some of your posts - just a misunderstanding, mainly because I'm new to all the "humour" surrounding these BF threads. Anyway, I'd leave it there but I just have to say one more time Timmy C is the daddy of bass tone!

[quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1464873736' post='3063375'] Finally. [/quote] Finally what? That post implies we were in the throws of battle and you've just won? If that's how you feel then well done! All I ever said on this thread is that it's a great endorsement, and honestly it feels like you have been picking away at my posts, attempting to prove me wrong about something. I always thought you were a pretty cool dude and liked and respected your posting style. I guess I should have continued to avoid the BF threads but Timmy C is a bit of an idol for me so I thought I'd join in.

[quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1464872586' post='3063347'] So which is it? Is it good to overpower the FOH mix or not? If it's not overpowering the FOH mix then the audience aren't hearing the cab directly... and the loudness of the cabs is kind of a moot point. Or if it is... That's not very good for a balanced FOH mix is it? [/quote] Sorry, I thought it was clear that I was being sarcastic. He's not overpowering the FOH. You can probably hear a mix of the rig and FOH in the venue but it's very difficult to judge from a phone video. That would be fairly standard for a venue that size anyway. Is anyone actually claiming that the BF cabs are contributing masses to his FOH or recorded tone? They're probably playing a small part in a very complicated chain and mix. All I'm saying is that if he likes them, they must be ace

A short clip of Timmy C with his new rig, totally overpowering the FOH mix [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cPx2ciUJdM[/media]

[quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1464871295' post='3063313'] But do all these lots of different cabs have the same 10" speaker? [/quote] Some of them, yeh

I've never seen one of these famous "barefaced bashing threads" before and I'm quite perplexed now that I'm actually in one. Anyway, just on the point of close-micing - I do a lot of recording, and I've recorded a lot of different bass cabs with 10" speakers. They all sound different to me, no matter how close my mic is.

I can't believe anyone would assume TC is going to be overpowering the FOH mix without actually hearing it!

[quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1464866538' post='3063246'] /thread clearly. [/quote] it is an objective fact

I really don't understand the need to go into any more detail than this: Tim Commerford, the daddy of bass tone, has chosen barefaced cabs to use in his latest rig. That means he's either suffering from severe mental illness, or they're great cabs. Probably the latter Whether or not you need a cab live, or whether or not you get the "sound of the cab" through the PA, or whether or not these cabs are totally revolutionary are all beside the point of the endorsement, surely?

[quote name='SICbass' timestamp='1464860539' post='3063172'] Yes, I am. That would drive me nuts, but ultimately it's none of my business. [/quote] It would drive you nuts if you played with a drummer who didn't use cases? I just don't get it! I turn up early, I'm set up in 10 minutes, I have spare skins and sticks, all my gear is in good nick (apart from the floor tom leg I need to fix before the weekend!!!) and I don't f*** up. The cases I do use are always out of the way. I just don't get the problem. I gigged for years without cases, and cases are not cheap!

I don't think I'm explaining myself very well. Tim C gets involved in his sounds in a very intricate way. His rig is complex. He modifies his own basses, pedals, and amps. He's used a wide variety of tones. Lots of people are very interested in how he gets his sounds. He's not a plug in and play guy, he does something more interesting than that. While his endorsement might not shift more units (although I suspect it will) it means a lot to me (and I suspect many others) because he's a tone genius. Other people have great sounds, but they tend to stick with them for a whole song, or a whole album, or even a whole career. Imagine if Chris Wolstenholme endorsed a new dirt/synth pedal. That'd mean a lot wouldn't it. This is similar IMO

I'm not saying TC will shift more units than those other super-celeb-bassists, I'm just saying the guy is known for being a tone fiend, and IMO he's never had a bad tone, unlike all those other guys

I've been on the other end of this as a drummer - the band demanded that I buy cases to transport my drums in, because "it looks unprofessional when you walk into a venue without them in cases". Are any of you that anal?

[quote name='sunburstjazz1967' timestamp='1464798333' post='3062683'] McCartney, King, Flea, Sting, that u2 bloke that would play through a Saisho tape player from the 80s if you put his squiggle on it? [/quote] All great musicians but they're not known for their tone specifically IMO. All those guys are pretty inconsistent with tone anyway aren't they? That's what I mean - whether or not Tim C is a virtuoso bassist or whether or not you like his music, I'm pretty sure it's a fact that he's widely regarded as a bit of a "tone wizard" on the bass.

I don't use an amp but just use the monitors at whatever venue I'm playing - no IEMs - works for me!

I can't think of another bassist who's had such a consistently brilliant tone. He has loads of different sounds, some of them really quite ambitious. I realise this sounds sycophantic but I can't think of another "celebrity endorsement" I'd put so much stock into

video footage would be most appreciated

now you're being silly. I just need to know if it can handle being dropped down a pub fire escape by a drunken idiot, I don't think that's an unreasonable request

In one of my bands, sticking to arrangements can be a bit tricky. There's one member who struggles a bit, and we learned a long time ago just to follow him. The problem is that now some of the fans seem to know the (CD) arrangements better than him! I guess sometimes it'd be better to play them the same every time

would you mind chucking it down the stairs? I think that's the real test. My TNT has taken a lot of tumbles over the last 15 years without any damage

After watching the demo I decided that I definitely need it. Now I just need to put myself through months of hell saying "You have enough dirt pedals, save your money"... probably easier than pre-ordering then having to endure the torture while your money sits in someone else's account

Tim Commerford has always has impeccable tone. That's probably because he looks at it in an incredibly detailed way. He's notorious for getting every single detail right. I can think of other players who might be better, or who's sounds I might occasionally prefer, but I couldn't imagine a better endorsement for cabs. Well done Alex!

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1464353403' post='3058770'] Very good, let's hope they pick it up! [/quote] ...on time!

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1464342375' post='3058573'] I've been in many bands who were only writing and performing original songs and in reality you'll rarely get a "blank canvas". If the song is already written you get to put a bass part to the song and that might give you creative input or no scope at all. [/quote] It depends on the band I suppose. The bands I've been in have been very collaborative and democratic

[quote name='Dr.Dave' timestamp='1464284512' post='3058216'] I had a sunburst/maple 72 , humbucker version. At the time I was playing a fair bit with a pick and couldn't get a sound from it so I converted it to fretless with a replacement neck. In the end I sold it in bits and made more than it was worth. These days my stage bass is a 90's cij Blueflower single coil version - though I did put a quarter pounder in it , changed the reverse pegs and added a baddassIII. I also put an extra screw in the clear pickguard. Beer bottle labels under that - dice knobs - job done !! [/quote] sounds ace! Got any photos?