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[quote name='MiltyG565' timestamp='1441295565' post='2857706'] Drunk people and the happy bride and groom (other combinations are also available) won't notice a jot of difference between the Faith and the Gibson. [/quote] Yep, fair enough, but in your OP you seem to be saying that the discussion of which instrument is best for (gigging and) recording is pointless. Well, this discussion has informed you that if you like a lot of bass from your acoustic guitar, then a Gibson J45 is superior to a Faith. Therefore, the discussion isn't pointless. There were two prongs to the OP: 1, is all this discussion about gear pointless? 2, do weekend warriors waste their money on nice gear? I was answering the first prong, but to answer the 2nd, I would guess that a lot of "weekend warriors" also do a bit of recording, and for that, the right sound is very important. Sometimes you can get the right sound for £20 off Ebay, sometimes you have to spend £2000 in a shop. So, if they've gone to the effort/expense to get the right sound for recording, why not take it to the pub gig at the weekend? [quote name='MiltyG565' timestamp='1441299278' post='2857753'] Looking purely at the facts, spending £2,000 on a guitar to play 15 £200 gigs throughout the year doesn't make business sense. [/quote] You might break even on year 1 after expenses. Year two will be a big boom! Although if you're getting £200 per gig you're probably playing more than 15 per year

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1441314225' post='2857927'] I don't feel any better than anyone. I feel more insightful. LOL Blue [/quote] Well you've certainly given us an insight!

[quote name='MiltyG565' timestamp='1441291151' post='2857633'] I think it's entirely unjustifiable today to spend £2,000 on an acoustic guitar. The sheer quality of some instruments at the £500 mark is incredible (check out Faith Naked series - absolutely beautiful!). There are low-key artists out there who play signature Farida guitars and basses, and they're far from Gibson money, but they sound great. And besides all that, the punters in the local pub still don't care about the minutia of tone, so setting aside issues of tone, why do we do it? Why do we laugh at some entry-level gear, when that could be what spawns a great career for a great musician? [/quote] Like I said, I held the same opinion. Faith are great, as are many other brands. None have the low end this £2000 gibson has

My mate bought a fancy gibson acoustic guitar. I laughed at him because it cos him £2000 or so and I thought this was a ridiculous amount of money for a guitar. I've played a lot of acoustics, and in my opinion anything mid range and up by yamaha, martin, taylor etc are pretty good. They each sound different, but you can get one you like that plays really well for £500 Anyway, I played this Gibson and while the feel was no better than other guitars I'd played, the sound was distinctly better. There is more low end produced by this guitar than any other acoustic I've ever tried. So, if I had £2000 spare, I'd get one

I go to my local one as it's a good night. I don't play but only because I lack the balls. I've tried handing out business cards for the studio but never got any business from an open mic. It might be a good place to meet potential band mates though?

Different gear makes different sounds. Some people are happy restricted to one sound, but I like a lot of variety. So, I have a few guitars, basses, pedals, amps, and other instruments. None of them are expensive, but if I wanted to make a sound and the only way to do it was to spend loads of money (which is a highly unlikely situation) then I'd do it.

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1441241246' post='2857248'] I would say it does make us more insightful, but in no way any wiser or better than anyone for any reason. Blue [/quote] If you're more insightful, then in a way, you are better I can accept that being a young american in the 60s was a unique experience, and the change that grew from this was definitely massive. If you want to attribute all that to the beatles, I think it could be debated, but you have some strong points. However, your generation, on average, are no more or less "insightful" than any other generation.

it's a bit strongly worded there but I have to agree. I don't hear any effects on the bass at all, it's just clean bass

I'd love to try one!

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I think solid for a bassist is cool. If he'd said your front man/woman was solid I'd be a bit concerned!

I don't use one myself, but I have improvised them for other players who come into the studio. If you want a big, loud, compressed or overdriven sound, it's very important to mute all un-used strings, and apparently a significant portion of bassists are less good at this than they realise.

Just bought some studio "snakes", couldn't have gone better! Top marks etc.

When I was starting out my band was more than willing to play for free, but all the landlords insisted on paying. A few years later when we were trying to play venues with a "name" it'd be pay to play! Weird It's difficult if your band has disagreements. If you don't have a leader, then I guess it's down to a vote. If you don't like the result of the vote, you just have to suck it up and get on with it, which isn't very nice, but you get over it.

I'm confused. Are discreet and skankdelvar two separate people?

fiendish!

I would love this! Hooked up to my pedalboard into a decent stack it'd be immense

my 6 string bass combined with whammy in a feedback loop goes way higher than any human voice

I think there's some good software for ipads and iphones. You can get Cubase for the ipad! The problem on android is something to do with the hardware. I downloaded a 4 track app to my android once and the latency made it impossible to use.

wow, wasn't expecting that, I'll have to try one! tech 21 XXL can get pretty "bitey", or maybe a RAT but you've probably tried that?

I use a tube screamer type pedal in a blended loop for this. I've not tried the bass tube screamer but it would probably do the job

I'd better not say any more

[quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1438854854' post='2837976'] ...if anyone genuinely loves music, the only defensible position is 'I like good solos and don't like bad ones but it is entirely down to me to decide which is which'. [/quote] nailed it again Bilbo

I actually have a customer who prefers to sing without music, and then gets me to put it into time