cheddatom

I met a young band recently. I was trying to persuade them to get out and gig, but all they want to do is work on their set!

I have a band for professionalism and money, and 3 bands for fun. I'd like some of the fun bands to gig more, but I don't get frustrated about it. I just like to play!

I don't mind a curry standing up

I run all my pedals through the barge concepts dealie as I use the feedback loop a lot, so lack of blend wasn't an issue for me. With the tone knob at 11AM and less it seems to retain plenty of low end anyway

Barge concepts blender/feedback thing but I'll do some samples un-blended. I should have chance to do it on Friday

It's easy for me. I switched from playing bass to drums, and I'm now removed from view [quote name='Bassman Sam' timestamp='1420413510' post='2649229'] I have no bum, I'm so skinny. If I did this, I'd look like a boomerang. That's just a throwaway comment. [/quote] I'm surprised there's been no come-back to this

Phew, that took a while, just liked you all! My studio is here: https://www.facebook.com/RiffFactoryUK And my bands: [url="https://www.facebook.com/Creepjoint"]https://www.facebook.com/Creepjoint[/url] [url="https://www.facebook.com/head.sticks"]https://www.facebook.com/head.sticks[/url] [url="https://www.facebook.com/DirtyMoneyNo5"]https://www.facebook.com/DirtyMoneyNo5[/url]

Just wanted to say that I got the pedal from Crowella just before christmas and having used it a couple of times can confirm that it's absolutely ace! I'll post some samples ASAP

Just received an amp from Horatio Bass. The deal went smoothly and I'm extremely impressed with the packaging. 10/10

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1419180985' post='2637311'] Problem is, it's obvious which file is which and I want to avoid any possible placebo effect - so I'm going to burn each file to a CD and get the current mrs discreet to play them to me randomly thorugh my Linn system. Will report back with my findings. [/quote] Good idea! I should have thought sooner... could have converted the mp3 back to WAV and done A and B for a proper test. Nevermind!

Discreet - No comment on 320kbps mp3 vs WAV?

It was in response to this... [quote name='notable9' timestamp='1418939726' post='2635131'] It takes a lot of money to record music properly.....I dont hear it today anymore, not even in live TV. As I said before it all sounds to me anyway grey...mushy. Horrible! [/quote] I'm too young to know about vinyl, although I should know the answer from my degree :-/

Nice one!

but the bass drum is the most important part! It's driving the song! but yeh, my main point was that you don't need to spend a load of money, or time travel back to the 80s, to get a good sound.

can't we put this in a sticky somewhere? I'd also like a copy... [email protected]

If they're not making eye contact, I just leave. I'm not hanging around at a gig where the performers can't be bothered to stare me straight in the eye. It's the main reason I never bothered to see Stevie Wonder

[quote name='notable9' timestamp='1418939726' post='2635131'] ...It takes a lot of money to record music properly.....I dont hear it today anymore, not even in live TV. As I said before it all sounds to me anyway grey...mushy. Horrible! [/quote] I hope you're wrong! This is a recording I did of bassfunk's band The Jukes https://soundcloud.com/rifffactoryrecordings-1/the-jukes-superstition Ignoring the fact that soundcloud has compressed it and ruined the top end with mp3ish artifacts, I think the mix on this is perfect. Feel free to explain why, if you think this falls short of what you could acheive with more money. Incidentally, the musicians were all in the live room with guitar amps turned up, loads of bleed on the drum mics etc.

[quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1418921140' post='2634915'] Discreet I hope you're open minded about this! [/quote] OK, here it is: [font=arial, sans-serif][size=1]rifffactory.co.uk/golden_brown.mp3[/size][/font] [font=arial, sans-serif][size=1]rifffactory.co.uk/golden_brown.wav[/size][/font] [size=4][font=arial, sans-serif]This was just a quick thing I did the other day for my own amusement (and a performance video) so no judgement on the mix or playing please![/font][/size] [font=arial, sans-serif]EDIT: I don't know what BC's software is doing to my post, I'm just pasting URLs into here, so in case it doesn't work I'll write it with words[/font] [font=arial, sans-serif]rifffactory DOT co DOT uk SLASH golden_brown.mp3[/font] [font=arial, sans-serif]rifffactory DOT co DOT uk SLASH golden_brown.wav[/font]

[quote name='tinyd' timestamp='1418920766' post='2634898'] It's probably too much hassle, but what would be really interesting is if you don't tell people which is which, then ask them to vote somehow. Of course, people will be able to guess by the file size so it might be impossible to do.... [/quote] It's impossible to do a blind test over the internet Discreet I hope you're open minded about this!

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1418919967' post='2634883'] OK - mp3s are 'lossy' which means not all the audio information is present. The difference is obvious to me not because there's anything special about my ears, but because I've got a decent hi-fi system. Anyone could hear the difference on my system - it's obvious. CDs have not been compressed like mp3s are. That's just a fact. [/quote] You are correct, it is a fact, mp3s can be described as lossy, because they have less information is present when compared with another, larger format like CD I'm in the studio tonight. I'll do two exports from Cubase. One 44KHz 16bit WAV, and one 320Kbps mp3. I'll put them on my server for you (or anyone) to download. I'm confident in my ears and systems, and I can't tell the difference, so I'll be very interested to see what you think

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1418917125' post='2634832'] ...An mp3 at 320kbps is nowhere near CD quality... [/quote] Technically, no, but if your mp3 was well encoded, you really shouldn't be able to tell the difference at all, and if the difference is really obvious to you, you should donate your ears to scientific research

nice one 5imon

Huge Hands - you're right, I love the "feel" you get from recording a band all together in the same room. I love to do this in my studio, and would love to do it with my rock band, but the bastards aren't around enough so it has to be done separately to a click. You definitely lose something. Call it "vibe" or whatever

[quote name='Norris' timestamp='1418900775' post='2634578'] Digitising music inherently introduces noise as music volume is quantised (or rounded to the nearest 'step')... [/quote] If you're talking about mp3 compression, fair enough, but if you're talking about CD quality, I disagree entirely.