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Sorry, I should have updated the thread but I thought it was long dead! I bought a MOTU 24 i/o in the end and it's working great. Now I just need to get my 24 channel desk up and running!

Impressive!

If there's no producer, then as the bass player, this is your job. You've already proved that as you're worried about leaving space in the mix. Becoming the producer by stealth should be one of your natural talents, it's part of the bassist mentality.

your stand-in drummer had never set up a kit before?!

yep, flat might work on one amp but not another

hmmm, very interesting. I feel like I can't contribute because I mainly drum these days. Maybe the best drummers are the ones who can play bass? Regarding the weird intricacies of timing and tempo that are "groove" - I'm usually fine but sometimes just have off days. It'll be in time but just doesn't feel right. Obviously there are some drummers who never have an off day but I would guess they are rare, so it's probably not fair to judge them based on one performance. The best drummer I know can play on any size kit and make it sound incredible. He takes a tiny kit out for most gigs, but records with a huge kit. I don't mind either way!

how much does that weigh?

I googled "usb media player" and this was at the top, looks like it'll do the job [url="http://www.prepaymania.co.uk/mobilephone/sumvision-cyclone-media-player-micro-hdmi-upscaling.html?googad&gclid=COSp0LKVmr8CFYjjwgod2SYAtQ"]http://www.prepaymania.co.uk/mobilephone/sumvision-cyclone-media-player-micro-hdmi-upscaling.html?googad&gclid=COSp0LKVmr8CFYjjwgod2SYAtQ[/url]

If the sound system is separate to the TV there might be additional inputs on it? My TV has a USB port which I use for this. I guess you bought yours just before this became standard

[quote name='dannybuoy' timestamp='1403869158' post='2487254'] EHX POG: [url="http://www.ehx.com/products/pog"]http://www.ehx.com/products/pog[/url] [/quote] ahh, the older model, ta!

what is that weird thing with sliders? Not seen one before

With my folk band It's hats, ride, two crashes, but with my other bands I use loads of cymbals, it's fun!! I have two creations - two stacked broken splashes which I call the "splash hat" and then a broken crash and broken china stack call the "twat hat" The splash hat is ace for off-beat clap sounds for my reggae/hip-hoppish band

[quote name='RockfordStone' timestamp='1403788420' post='2486392'] ... I knew a drummer previously who would set his cymbal stands before going onto the stage so it took us 10 minutes to get on and 10 to get off [/quote] I like to do this but some techies seem to have a big problem with it. One gig I did recently they asked WTF I was doing as there were house-stands available. I explained I was trying to save them time and effort but they just seemed really pissed off

It seems to me some of these limiters are positioned pretty badly. I wonder who calibrates it, and how far it is placed from the stage etc. 98db at the back of a big room would be OK in that you could hold a conversation above it. 98 db right next to the band would be ridiculous. The response of the room should be considered too. There might be some weird acoustics going on where one corner is more responsive to snare drums for example. If the mic is put there it'd trip very easily, despite it having no relation to the actual RMS level outside the building, or wherever the complaints come from. Are there some regulations about them?

Same for me for all three bands! I just wish all the other guys felt the same

I would say you'll do well to get your latency down to an acceptable level if you're adding effects through a computer and monitoring them while you play. When you see "latency free monitoring" it usually means it's routed through the interface so you can monitor a direct signal latency free, but adding any effects on the computer would add to latency

inverting them will only work if they're exactly out of phase You need to align them as best you can. Zoom in on both tracks and try to align the peaks and troughs so that they're in the same place

[quote name='Biaeothanata-Bassist' timestamp='1403729095' post='2485775'] - (I can't make out the silver pedal to the left of the Sansamp) [/quote] Tech 21 XXL?

is it not pretty standard for folk music?! Maybe they think I'm the weak link so don't bring me in until half way through? How embarrassing!

If the drums don't kick in until the first chorus, am I allowed to f*** about with the snare height during the first verse? Or is that unprofessional?

I'd never experienced it before joining my folk band. It's generally because every song is in a different tuning or capo'd on a different fret requiring tuning, so the front man will ramble on about something. Sometimes he explains what the song is about or why it was written. Sometimes it's politics. Sometimes it's just a joke Depending on the gig it either goes down really well, or falls on deaf ears. Never heard a complaint about it though

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1403687927' post='2485212'] What annoyed me when I was in a covers band: The guitarist quietly (but audibly) reminding himself of the first couple of chords of the following song, thus letting the audience know what was coming next and removing any advantage of surprise and lessening the impact! That's unprofessional, imho. [/quote] Yes I hate this. Not just covers but any band doing this. It really sucks, especially at the start of a set

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1403687072' post='2485201'] Personally I think talking between songs should be kept to a minimum unless the person doing it is both supremely entertaining and eloquent. Most musicians aren't. In an ideal world guitarists should have their instruments set up so that they go out of tune as little as possible. Failing that they should have a tuned second guitar and roadie to help them switch (and tune the one not being used) as required. IME guitarists are overly paranoid about tuning and tend to do it far more often than is absolutely necessary. I know the skinny strings are less stable (I play them too) but when I take my bass out of it's case unless the machine heads have been knocked it is still almost perfectly in tune. I'll tune up once at the sound check and once again before going on stage but TBH 99% of the time if I didn't bother the bass would still be in tune enough for no-one in the band or audience to hear anything amiss. [/quote] It really depends on your band and the kind of performance you're trying to get across, but in general I would say it's acceptable for a drummer to pull some stands closer to him in between some songs. It takes less than a second. I definitely wouldn't call it unprofessional! Excessive tuning can be very annoying and unprofessional. Especially if they're not on mute!

I tune my snare before I play, but I don't hit it hard. That would be annoying while everyone is setting up. Particularly for the sound guy trying to mic the kit. Have you seen these drummers who twat their kit while the sound guy tries to place mics around them?!? Unbelievable!

[quote name='AntLockyer' timestamp='1403615196' post='2484500'] Memory locks on my stands... [/quote] What are these?! I would love to have my kit set up exactly the same every time!