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[quote name='ezbass' timestamp='1443189097' post='2872974']
I liked Chris Cornell's Remember My Name for Casino Royale.
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Yeah, you know my name is a quality song

[url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnzgdBAKyJo"]https://www.youtube....h?v=YnzgdBAKyJo[/url]

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1443091897' post='2872093'] Until we see the set list, can't really advise on a song to pick. The reason why I'm against something like Dakota..- I know it isn't an option, but the thinking applies to other songs- is that it is carried by the bass...and that is exposure/pressure that you may not need. I'd say the same about Valerie, but it depends how you feel about it. You can't move or lose the groove on that..the song will fall apart..so want to avoid that sort of scenario..IMO. 3 chords and repetitive is a good start..but there might be better ideas/choice when the set list is up. [/quote]
Ergo I'd say something like Sweet Home Alabama as another shout, or that kid rock song that is a copy of it.

A not stupid question - what do you listen to / do you listen to much music? Are there songs that you just know the structure of by heart?
Other suggestions from me would be
Fleetwood Mac - Don't Stop (if they have keys)
Bryan Adams - Summer of 69
Kings Of Leon - The Bucket
Zutons / Amy Winehouse - Valerie ( slightly odd timing, but easy to remember, and not hard structure)
Katrina and the Waves - Walking on Sunshine

[quote name='KevB' timestamp='1442320700' post='2866002']
We must have used at least two, if not three, four way splitters (in white) at our last gig. Oddly enough none of the audience seemed to be bothered by it, they were too busy asking us to play more (ended up doing 3 sets) nor the club management who, presumably after looking at what they'd taken over the bar, immediately rebooked us.
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But did you have music stands?

Thought I could help you, but turns out I was only registered on the forum and not the website

Similarly, (assuming the backline is in approximately a line, and the singers/horns are in a line at the front), one run of cables goes behind/under monitors at front, and the rest all go behind the amps/kit to the end of stage, and only then go back to the front.

I personally suggest carrying just 3/5 m XLR's but carry lots of spares - just daisy chain them if you want/need longer.

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1442134293' post='2864514']
Standard busking set in those numbers you've mentioned so when you have them in your pocket they'll feature on millions of gigs.
Hit them all with any key and you'll be sorted.
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+1
I've not come accross Disco Inferno in any bands though, maybe missed out there. Rest are all very standard around here.

[quote name='toneknob' timestamp='1441799710' post='2861848']
I like the little woo-hoo a band member does in the background at 44s.
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wsa abotu to post the same, the cheer from the drummer is funny as anything

[quote name='xgsjx' timestamp='1441640208' post='2860490']
I hope that's either a Barefaced cab or an MG car you're talking about?
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The former

[quote name='Firey Jack' timestamp='1441575521' post='2860040']
Thanks Rushbo and Mykesbass - that's kinda my experience as well - the worst gigs for me are when it sounds plenty loud out front but I can hardly hear anything on stage - really frustrating and baffles me a lot of the time - seems to be very venue dependent. I'm not too worried about the tone I hear, but for me to play well I need to hear as much articulation, if that's the right term, as possible. Last night, cos of all the dicking about I did it sounded really muddy and indistinct - I suspect it was plenty loud out front tho but
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Unfortunately you have to accept that what sounds best for the punters is more important that what sounds good for you sometimes

[quote name='crez5150' timestamp='1441617850' post='2860188']
I'd be inclined to ask why it is your singer is asking you to turn down. If you are so quiet that you cannot hear yourself while the drums are playing, maybe its that your vocal monitoring for the singer is not adequate?
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+1

[quote name='kevvo66' timestamp='1441649762' post='2860584']
So your selling the Honda Jazz ? To buy the bass cabs , I'm confused ��
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That was the suggestion made by other guys, sell my jazz, buy a trashed estate car and buy an 8x10 with the proceeds. Save rest of money into private healthcare for back injury.
The sin is that I'm covetting another mans rig!

Check the speakon on the cab. I noticed the inside of my old Midget was not brilliant (2 spade connectors, which were loose. Had to solder on and heatshrink to make it safer)

[quote name='ead' timestamp='1441628445' post='2860346']
Have you considered Barefaced cabs?
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I had a midget, but it just didn't sound nice with my new TC Electronic amp. The Markbass cabs sound nice.

Dearest all of the forgiving General Discussion

On Saturday we were playing at a local music festival alongside the likes of Adam Ant, Sam Bailey and Jocelyn Brown. As the timings were all a bit tight and so, to save time I used the Ashdown 8x10 on the stage, rather than setting up a stand etc and putting my Markbass 2x10s on stage. (They were running the DI out of my Head anyway, so made no difference to outbound sound)

It was the sweetest sound i've ever had out of my bass.

So Please forgive for now having GAS over something that is completely impractical (car is a honda jazz....) and something I can't afford.

Regards



(ps, any tips for curing this GAS would be appreciated, I haven't had GAS for ages, althought it has started recently with Double Bass')

jUST BAN ALL BURSTS, then they will be traded underground, and only used at underground gigs, where people will be like "Is that bassist using a tabacco sunburst bass? How riqué"

[quote name='lowhand_mike' timestamp='1441221730' post='2857109']
that blokes thumb must be rock hard to get that sound off the top of that er... guita....bas.... thing, must have a raspy right hand too
i can barely play the 5ver that i have let along somthing that size - ooh err missus
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I thought it was a guitar-cajon maybe? (so a Guitarjon?)

[quote name='mrtcat' timestamp='1441379828' post='2858494']
Its a combination of things for me. I do probably 30 deps a year and do anything from classic rock to pop / soul / funk as mostly i cover for pub bands up to function bands. There are a lot of songs that are a regular feature for each type of band but there's also plenty of new stuff that I come across. Many songs get played in different keys too.

The key things for me are:

1) Ear training and doing lots of transcriptions - this helps me work parts out quickly.
2) Writing charts - This is really useful and vital if I have lots of new stuff in one set.
3) Practicing playing songs / melodies / fills etc in different keys - its really useful to know your way arond the fretboard well when you get told on the night that they do it in a different key.
4) Theory, theory, theory. - If you have a good understanding of chords / scales and are practiced at improvising around them then you can chart out the chords and wing a lot of stuff without slipping up too much.
5) Play lots of "standards". If you regularly play really popular stuff here's a fair chance you'll know lots of what you're asked to play in advance.
6) Finally I don't obsess over every tiny detail in a song. I don't try to nail every fill but I do make sure I know the feel and structure well.

I'm no pro. I just enjoy the challenge of depping and would recommend it to anyone.

Wish you ll the best with your new band. It sounds like you've worked hard so now you can enjoy the fun bit.
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Pretty much summed it up.
I dont write much music (i can read) so my transcription time and knowledge is a bit low, but the above is not far off. Add in the fact that nearly everything in most cover bands is something I've played before, even if it is 5 years ago for some....

The big thing to learn is to how to communicate with the band in music. Sounds stupid, but you can get a "feel" for when a chorus is coming through subtle music hints.
re: point 4; there are also standard "patterns" that tend to appear over and over.... eg Circles of fifths are everywhere, the "Don't Stop Believin'" I/V/vi/IV , or various combinations of I/IV/V
re:point 5; And learn different Styles. a good way to start this is to hit different jam sessions locally - if you have a blues jam, a rock jam and a Jazz Jam on different nights, try to attend them a few times each. You'll play with different musos in different styles (good networking) and learn quite a few "Standard" songs.

re point 6 : Certain fills/melodies [i]have[/i] to be learnt though , eg if you're doing Don't Stop Me now, you have to know the bass intro, same for Sweet Child of Mine. Or if you're playing something like "Somebody Told me" , you have to have the chorus right.
Oddly, I tend to find when depping, the "seemingly simple" songs tend to be the deceptively hard ones. EG I did Maggie May for the first time a month ago, I probably spent around 1/4 of the avialable time on that, I just could not get the sound and feel for that right at all.

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1441175378' post='2856574']
No, I have none of the issues you have described. I am a working bass player , I do this for a living.

The things your describing sound like things that use to happen in High School bands.

I advise all those that only want to play music they like to forget about bands, at least working bands. I don't play music I like, but I'm gigging constantly.

I play in a band with good musicians that are smart knowledgeable trustworthy people and have a solid book of good paying business.

To be honest, it's sounds like you would be happier doing the bedroom home recording thing.

Blue
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I didn't know you were on here Blue, I remember reading your posts back in the day on TB

I have 1 "working band" that gets the gigs, and keeps me living comfortably (My job is not brilliant, but the gigs keep me living comfortably) , playing a style of music that I find incredibly boring to listen to (ska), but it is buy as anything. The other bands are there for balance and enjoyment.

[quote name='Roland Rock' timestamp='1441109786' post='2856070']
Try hooking a mic up to an envelope filter and singing the line - I've done this in the past with a Mutron and it sounds great. Bonus points if you can do that and play the electric bass part at the same time!
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I've not tried hooking a mic up to an envelope filter, might have to try this next week !

As most say, If i'm depping, its paid. Even if the pay is £20 or 30 travel expesnses, its paid something. I'm not going out of pocket for it.

As above - I think its actually a sample. I'm lucky in that I have a very deep voice and can hit that Low C and D

Think some sort of envelope filter (but very light on it) works well with an octaver if you dont want to get someone singing it. Or just sample it for a keys player.

I think just have a listen to something like this, and you'll see its all in the playing tbh !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT3rJHs82A8

Weve had this discussion with a LL recently, did a gig a month ago, went down fab, did another last friday. He's booked us 3rd friday of every month until xmas. We're concerned that each time its going to get less busy, but we shall see! Personally every 2 months works.

I'm in the rich cambridge area, but the Ska Band [i][b][u]will not[/u][/b][/i] go out for under £400. Pub or anything. (6 members, £40 goes to PA pot, so £60/head minimum)


Sunday we;re doing a 45 minute set for £400.....

We're busy and have a gig or two every week.

Longest I@Ve done is a 9am setup, for a 9pm gig for 3 hour set. Dismantled by about 3am once we'd stopped the DJ
Problem is they were using the same venue for everything, so wanted band set up before the actual ceremony. Charged accordingly, and they were fantastic couple, and the audience was brill and very ... enjoyable

Do you feel like we do?

Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy?