jakenewmanbass

[quote name='BigBeefChief' post='154617' date='Mar 10 2008, 03:22 PM']I think The Sun (where I get all my insightful views) is pretty reliable.[/quote] I did find myself aghast at the sheer weightiness of your intellect, you opine with such gravity and now I know why.

I think that while your approach is, as you say cheap and cheerful, it is a little simplistic, and you don't have to go from one extreme to another £350 straight to £30K there are plenty of good basses for between 1K and 5K that have a really good tone and will hold their value if you buy one. You may be happy to be 'thumping' and that is a good start, but a really nice tone on a double bass is something quite luxurious which makes the whole experience that much more enjoyable. For me, life is way too short to get by with mediocre tone. The only reason I'm adding this is that I think many people are put off by cheap basses as they can be hard to play and often don't sound like people expect a DB to sound, although cheaper basses are sounding better these days. Jake

[quote name='7string' post='154249' date='Mar 9 2008, 10:34 PM']There was nothing wrong with this original post at all. You called it as you saw it...[/quote] Can't agree with you on that. Saying "yeah right" indicates a lack of belief in what is in print, and in any language is denigrating to the author and or publisher. my verdict: bad choice of language as I don't think the OP intended that level of offence.

liddle bump cos its this week

Jake: fat welsh c***, plays fat wires because they move slow, like his brain.

[quote name='BigBeefChief' post='154165' date='Mar 9 2008, 08:30 PM']Firstly, I think he's being overly sensitive. But thats his choice. Secondly, as I've pointed out several times - Its part and parcel of being a performer. If you don't want criticism (constructive or otherwise), get off the stage.[/quote] The difficulty with that BBC is that here the line between poster and performer is blurred and as posters, we are persons.

I think we should ask ourselves what level of criticism should take place in this environment, and being relatively new to the online world I'm beginning to feel that caution is the better part of valour, or to put it another way, the thick skinned can handle anything (me included) but the thin skinned can't and perhaps we should all have consideration for the thinner skinned end of the forum, so as to maintain a friendly atmosphere. Janek seems eloquent and able and I'm sure to be doing the work he is, he must be a good musician. My view is that he would have displayed more dignity if he had not posted, however upsetting he found the criticisms, and some were quite harsh and unthinking. My reasoning is that in such debates the truth usually lies somewhere between and as the published individual in the piece I felt he was in a no win situation.

[quote name='lonestar' post='152717' date='Mar 6 2008, 09:40 PM']Thanks Jakesbass I'll give it a try. BTW I've enjoyed reading your contributions to the the "Stagg" thread elswhere on baschat. Mike[/quote] Thanks Mike I really appreciate the comment. Jake

off topic but a really good exercise for intonation is to pick an interval and slide between the two notes in the interval on one string, change interval, repeat, use all intervals till comfortable then employ the same tactic with larger intervals that involve string crosses, change interval, repeat. When sliding try keeping contact with the string and apply a little pressure to the string between notes. If you are wondering WTF is he on about? Its this: familiarising yourself with exact positions on the fingerboard aids your subconcious to have more accurate reference points and sliding between notes (assuming you know what in tune is) helps you accurately position good notes I learned this from an orchestral player on DB when I was having difficulty with a few specific notes, sorted it in no time.

[quote name='Machines' post='152630' date='Mar 6 2008, 07:35 PM']Meh, i'm with the thread starter on this one mostly. I usually skip the advanced jazz lessons (sorry Stuart !) as I find them totally over my head and also irrelevant to me. That said - there have been some that are more basic such as on intervals etc.. these are not too advanced but are useful at times. I think the magazine does cater for both camps, there's advanced playing in there but also some basics.[/quote] truth is they are irrelevent to most and I play jazz, but I do recognise how tiny a proportion of the buying publics attention it holds so it is arguable that a disproportionate amount of time is dedicated to it in publications (trainspotters weekly) I play jazz because I like it, I do want others to enjoy it but that matters to me less than when I'm doing a commercial gig, after all thats what pays the bills.

[quote name='BigBeefChief' post='152625' date='Mar 6 2008, 07:33 PM']I haven't been this confused since I had a crush on Tom Selleck.[/quote]

[quote name='BigBeefChief' post='152623' date='Mar 6 2008, 07:29 PM']The Jury is still out on you then![/quote] Indicating that you're not quite sure what to make of me. 'hmmmmmm likes jazz doesn't appear to be an arsehole' mwah mwah your world is crumbling BBC

[quote name='BigBeefChief' post='152612' date='Mar 6 2008, 07:22 PM']Jake, Having read through my reply to Funkmonkey, my post does sound a little facetious. It wasn't intended. I was trying to establish if hearing him play was breathtaking to a bass player, or breath taking in general. Funkmonkey states that it was about the ability to have total musical freedom, unhindered by poor technique. I question if this creativity and musical freedom would be so apparent to those who don't study bass and, for want of a better phrase, to those who don't appreciate how difficult it is! I suppose there's not an answer. As a bass player its difficult to be subjective. Do you enjoy a piece because its musical or because you appreciate the skill involved? Or maybe a bit of both? Maybe its subconscious? I, for whatever reason, tend not to enjoy overtly technical playing. I see less value in studying it than most. I think that a lot of people study it for the wrong reasons. But its up to them. If you like listening to that stuff, great. I'm more than happy for you to exist on the same planet as me. Just don't play Jazz and don't be the front man of Jamiroquai.[/quote] beautiful answer thank you I do play jazz, but I'm not Jason Kay

[quote name='BigRedX' post='152611' date='Mar 6 2008, 07:22 PM']What I was trying to say was that there is a natural inclination to show off ability often at the expense of taste. I see it all the time not only in music but all in my day job graphic design.[/quote] I accept one can assert there is a tendency, but not a natural inclination, certainly not for all mankind. Personally I don't care how uninterested people are in what I've done with a song as long as what I did works for the song.

[quote name='BigRedX' post='152608' date='Mar 6 2008, 07:14 PM']Exactly! Just because you can doesn't mean that you should.[/quote] agreed, but you implied that having ability somehow served as a bar to having good judgement/writing/creating

[quote name='BigRedX' post='152599' date='Mar 6 2008, 07:05 PM']Actually in my experience it can. I'm sure that nearly all of us have been guilty at some point of being determined to shoehorn our latest 'trick' into whatever song we're currently working on whether it really needs it or not.[/quote] that doesn't mean you are a worse player because of what you practise it means that you have poor musical judgement, different things IMO. (not meant to sound that personal, you as general I mean)

[quote name='BigBeefChief' post='152580' date='Mar 6 2008, 06:30 PM']And while you were listening to him, did he "create" anything that could be appreciated by a non-bass player?[/quote] Just be sure BBC, you're not attempting to invalidate the group you infer are the only ones who [i]would[/i] appreciate as, for the sake of definition, a lesser group of mortals are you? I would expect more of you than that. Surely with your grasp of reason you can allow said group to exist on earth alongside Lemmy lovers like yourself? Are you offended by the existence of such a type? Do you think less of individuals because they have a technical bent about their chosen topic, hobby etc? I would like to know where you stand on these points. Jake

[quote name='The Funk' post='152297' date='Mar 6 2008, 12:01 PM']I remember someone telling me a long time ago that an easy way to remember what different intervals sound like is to associate them with the first two notes of songs you are familiar with, eg. octave up = Somewhere Over The Rainbow.[/quote] +1 Association is the 'familiar' thing I mentioned in my earlier post

[quote name='BigBeefChief' post='152244' date='Mar 6 2008, 10:43 AM']Or maybe thats just me making excuses for my technical inability??![/quote] definitely

[quote name='bigd1' post='152209' date='Mar 6 2008, 10:03 AM']at 400bpm he is saying he can play 1600 notes per minuet ! but then[b] Fag 3[/b] is semi quavers (sixteenth notes) making 3200npm.[/quote] you make some salient points but I couldn't help noticing (and being distracted by) your typo, thats a delicious mistake

Its about two things, familiarity and relationships. The relationships are between your brain/inner ear and your hands, and to what extent a certain movement produces a predictable result. And familiarity, how many instances of these relationships your brain has memorised and is able to recall at will. If you've done a specific movement before, the higher the chances of accurately repeating that movement, not so easy with things you've never done before. The answer: absorption of enormous amounts of reference material. If you absorb enough you will be able to recall it more easily, and it gets better. The more you absorb the more instances of similarity and pattern emerge, until you reach the point that you are familiar by 'experience' with things that you have not necassarily done in that precise form but is sufficiently close to things that you [i]have done[/i] to be recognisable. depending on your rate of practise and how diligent and talented and energetic you are the above process can take between 2 and 40 yrs to bear fruit (took me 25, I'm a lazy bastard) If you've read this far, this is broadly (not always) what separates musicians that really take it seriously and those that do it for fun, either is valid in my view, but if you seriously want to play whats in your head to any accomplished extent you've got some work to do. But for me its the most fun work there is. Jake

To get back on topic The Blues Festival at the Farnham Maltings is a great event, a full day, and when I was there they had some really good stuff on. And Farnham is a lovely town. Jake

[quote name='obbm' post='152038' date='Mar 5 2008, 09:17 PM']"Off topic" and yes I have.[/quote] Ah my mistake yes OT, and thanks/sorry.

When I was a kid I used to rehearse in Freystrop and our mates could hear us in Hook (2 miles) daft thing was we used to wear industrial ear muffs, in hindsight I thinks we shoulda turned down

[quote name='obbm' post='151982' date='Mar 5 2008, 07:52 PM']A bit OT but welcome to the area. I've lived in or close to Farnham for most of the past 50 years.[/quote] OT? occupational therapy? occasional trousers? old trout? ohhh you mean oTt question... you ever been to north east Manchester?