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Not at all, decent interconnects (*ie neutricks phonos and good quality cable soldered well), a decent amp into decent monitors (with good crossovers and great tweeters naturally) with sensible speaker cable (13amp mains cable would be fine - high frequency power demands are pretty tiny) will suffice, as long as the DA converters on your sound card can handle the frequency they are attempting. This is not rocket science and no one is making stupid claims. All that is being said is you absolutely cant make any assumptions of something as completely flawed as a PC attempting to play back unweighted tones that are stored in a lossy medium that by its very nature can not support those frequencies at all anyway. You cant hear it if it iosnt there, or is so quiet as to be less loud than the inherent noise in the system.

If these files dont take into account Fletcher Munsen curves then they are utter bull as well....

I'm not super keen on the Markbass cabs, but an LMII or sa450 with the Berg ae410 and the sound is utterly superb However the LM800 is not the same beast as the LMII, LMIII, sa450, at all, it is far closer to the SD800 or SD1200 since it use a digital power amp (the same unit as the sd800 I believe), and all the 'real' LMII family use an analogue power amp. It just has the cut down features of an LMII in terms of eq. That digital power amp may seem like a tiny difference to some but tonally and response (ie the 'feel' of the amp while playing) its a completely different animal. The SD range and the digital power section LM range are supposed to go a bit deeper than the analogue power amp LMII, they are supposed to give you a sense of the extra power and all that. The transients off these very high power amps are huge for one thing. Another point to note is the limiter issue only exists in the analogue power section variants (so not the LM800) as far as I have heard. However that power is also quite capable of being detrimental to the final sound if the cab you plug the amp into really cant cope with it, and IME of trying out MB cabs a 5 stringer can exceed the capabilites of the cabs to deal with the power of the more powerful amps, and things can defintely start to suffer as a result, I would however, love to have a go with one of the really big MB heads through a Barefaced BigTwin. That may well cause damage to internal organs!

If you want to generate test tones download foobar2000 If you put tone://frequency,time (where frequency is the cps or hz and time is duration in seconds it will generate that since wave. You can store these in a playlist, then convert them to wav, burn them to a disc and play them back on your stereo if you are in any doubt about the quality of the electronics in your PC/soundcard. If you have a high end soundcard and decent monitoring you can of course just play them direct. The difference to what you can hear when playing back through something appropriate is massive (naturally).

I dont think it would be possible. What you might be able to do is get the individual tracks off the Yamaha on to a mnodern PC, and from there the world is your ostrich. What you have is a perfectly acceptable and cheap (though very dated, and by today's standards limited in power and quality to quite a large degree) means of recording and mixing the stuff you do. I am not knocking it, I've done perfectly repsectable work on far less powerful kit. And getting something to work for tracking for less money is pretty tricky. Although the Zoom R16 can be had for less than £300, and mixing can be done on that device or its trivial to import the tracks from teh SD card to a PC for mixdown. However a truly seriously powerful desktop PC can be had new for around [url="http://www.ebuyer.com/338540-zoostorm-premium-desktop-pc-7873-0408"]£570[/url] these days, add a decent audio interface (yeah I know, money trap or what!) and you can be tracking and mixing in the DAW of your choice.

This isnt a test of hearing so much as a test of your PC audio card, and the speakers you are using.....

I will say they that those particular MB heads tend to produce a slightly warm very clean tone, they arent' uber clean (the F1 F500 and other digital power amp section amps are far cleaner) in fact, buit stay very very true to the bass that is plugged into them all the same The eq and filters are really nice, although the sa450 sweepable mids make the eq section far more useful for me. They arent very genre specific at all - if you need grit stick an appropriate pedal in front of them....

IIRC the updated limiter did not find its way into the LMIII in the end. However that issue only arose when driving an 8 Ohm cab hard, with a reasonably sensitive quality 4Ohm cab there is no problem generating very large amounts of volume from that range of MB heads (the LMII-alikes, digital power supply, analogue power amp).

I think you're wrong, not my experience of MB heads into great cabs at all. Driving a suitable cab they are excelletn amps for all styles of music, IME and IMO.

Not even close to halfway decent compared to a lot of the people on this forum.....

[quote name='guildbass' timestamp='1337706508' post='1664339'] I'd love to find a room that worked well but without such a luxury it's much nicer to record 'dead' and put the room on afterwards. We recently set up in a house and as soon as I cranked up the old MD409 the room just crushed everything...the ceilings were too low for starters. I've tried in churches too...It IS lovely but you need a time to get the 'room' mic'd up as well as the talent... [/quote] Agreed. Finding a good room where you can let rip is (that you can afford) is a complete swine. Guerrilla recordings are great fun if you can find somewhere good though.

[quote name='guildbass' timestamp='1337706079' post='1664329'] Well, the SPX900 was a revelation when it came out and was an industry 'go to' effects unit in the 90's. At the end of the day we are talking about a powered 24bit desk with mastering and a full effects suite for sometimes well under £300. Mine was used by Steve Wilson to record porcupine Tree's live stuff off the FOH desk and he's pretty fussy about sound... [/quote] For a hardware device of '90s era it was one in a long line of perfectly good multi fx devices from Yamaha (loads of project studios had them I agree) but in the 90's it was all about Lexicon for reverb and Eventide Ultra-harmonisers for modulation fx. Since Bricasti hardware solutions turned up they've consistently been 'the best' for reverb although a lot of people still love that Lexicon sound. The Eventide stuff is still outrageously powerful too. What I'm trying to say is you can get a taste of that Bricasti sound for free right now [url="http://www.samplicity.com/bricasti-m7-impulse-responses/"]from here[/url] running them in this here [url="http://www.knufinke.de/sir/sir1.php"]free vst[/url], and it will sound incredible (promise, I use that exact set up for a lot of reverb requirements). Another amazingly superb free vst reverb is the [url="http://varietyofsound.wordpress.com/downloads/"]Varety of Sound Epicverb[/url], which is every bit as good as the Yamaha ever was. If you want a great plate reverb try [url="http://kunz.corrupt.ch/products/tal-reverb"]Tal II[/url] All free, and sound fantastic in their own ways.

There is nothing industry standard about the Yamaha SPX reverb..... Compared to a convolution reverb impulse from Bricasti (free) running in SIR (free convolution reverb impulse plugin) the Yamaha SPX reverbs will tend to sound very very last millenium IMO.

[quote name='Teobass88' timestamp='1337692597' post='1664036'] In my humble opinion...absolutely no! MarkBass is appropriate only for pop.... [/quote] Errr no....

If there is anything to the graphs that are on there then [url="http://www.karmamics.com/shop/K-10-Pencil-Condenser-Microphone.html"]the matched pair of sdc[/url] look incredible for the price:-

They have some [i]really[/i] interesting kit on that site:- 7 micro SDC's for $99 anyone? [url="http://www.karmamics.com/shop/K-Micro-Silver-Bullet-Drum-Pack.html"]http://www.karmamics...-Drum-Pack.html[/url] Or a matched pair for $34? [url="http://www.karmamics.com/shop/K-Micro-Matched-Pair.html"]http://www.karmamics...tched-Pair.html[/url] Or a matched pair of SDC's for $129? [url="http://www.karmamics.com/shop/K-10-Pencil-Condenser-Microphone.html"]http://www.karmamics...Microphone.html[/url] I'll be looking into these for sure, either of the matched stereo pairs would be great with my Zoom Hn in 4 track mode. Ta!

If you want a cheap ribbon then do yourself a favour and get a[url="http://www.cascademicrophones.com/cascade_FAT_HEAD_II.html"] Cascade Fathead II[/url] with the Lundahl transformer mod, absolutely gorgeous sounding mic, for guitars, OH, voice (esp a shrill female voice that you need to control), metallic percussion (tames the transients perfectly).

Still better than fabricating that much cable/multicore yourself, costs more in my time to make it than it does to buuy it (for all that I can make it without any issues, #1 solder soldier me)

He is a particularly dapper fellow, we all feel dowdy by comparison

Have a top time all of you, wish I could be there....

[quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1337607307' post='1662629'] I have the red audio drum mic set and it is indeeed very versatile! I tend to buy my mics used on here or ebay, i've not bought a dodgy one yet actually the most annoyingly expensive bit for me were the stands and cables... you don't really think about them until it's too late. [/quote] Wait till you need a decent multicore and patchbay....

"You dont know what day it is" ROFL - priceless, what a c**k!

[url="http://www.red5audio.com/acatalog/Drum_Kit_Mics.html"]Red 5 Audio do some really good mics[/url] (for the money). If you go their drum mic set you'd have a pair of small diaphragm condensors (good for the guitar and piano) 3 tom/snare dynamics (also good on piano, cajon, bass) and a kick mic (good on kick or bass, [size=2][i]but IMO not on both at the same time in one mix[/i][/size][size=4])[/size] Their valve condensors are also v nice for the outlay. A lot better than much of the cheap Chinese mics you can find out there.

Doh! Nice effort, be a good chap and take that back down please.....

[quote name='BigBeatNut' timestamp='1337254655' post='1657861'] .... and why use two mics for bass and guitar when you can do both with one mic ? (I wish I could find a link to the article where Gabe Roth talks in detail about his approach to recording) [/quote] See attached....[attachment=108156:sh*tty2.pdf] Hmmm, attaching a pdf is proving to be a PIA! [attachment=108158:Gabe_Roth_S_is_P_pt2.zip] OK thats a zip file containing the Gabe Roth Pretty Is Sh***y Part 2 article. Best of luck, you may have to save it and rename it to a .zip then open it (wtf is the site up to?)