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51m0n

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  1. [quote name='SteveK' timestamp='1333311124' post='1599958'] 'Good only knows' would probably have been my choice. Both can certainly be described as 'outstanding'. While my contribution may not be the greatest pop [i]song[/i], I think the phenomenal production/arrangement makes it one of the greatest pop [i]records[/i]. I'm Not In Love 10cc [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2BavhwpIJg&feature=player_embedded#[/media]! [/quote] Staggering recording that, here's how they did it accodring to the engineer Eric Stewart (from[url="http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jun05/articles/classictracks.htm"] Sound On Sound[/url]):- [size=3][i]"I think they'd been at the wacky baccy at this time, and it took me a couple of hours to get my head around the idea. But then I figured how we could physically make the loops and set up the studio to do that. I rigged up a rotary capstan on a mic stand, and the tape loop had to be quite long because the splice edit point on the loop would go through the heads and there'd be a little blip each time it did. So, I had to make the loop as long as I could for it to take a long, long time to get around to the splice again. That way you wouldn't really hear the splice/blip. We're talking about a loop of about 12 feet in length going around the tape heads, around the tape-machine capstans, coming out away from the Studer stereo recorder to a little capstan on a mic stand that had to be dead in line vertically with the heads of the Studer. It was like one of those continuous belts that you see in old factories, running loads of machines, and we had to keep it rigid by putting some blocks on the mic stand legs to keep it dead, dead steady."[/i] [i]"It worked, but the loop itself — and this is where it gets interesting — had to be made up from multiple voices we'd done on the 16-track machine. Each note of a chromatic scale was sung 16 times, so we got 16 tracks of three people singing for each note. That was Kevin, Lol and GiGi standing around a valve Neumann U67 in the studio, singing 'Aahhh' for around three weeks. I'm telling you; three bloody weeks. We eventually had 48 voices for each note of the chromatic scale, and since there are 13 notes in the chromatic scale, this made a total of 624 voices. My next problem was how to get all that into the track."[/i] [i]"I mixed down 48 voices of each note of the chromatic scale from the 16-track to the Studer stereo machine to make a loop of each separate note, and then I bounced back these loops one at a time to a new piece of 16-track tape, and just kept them running for about seven minutes. Because we had people singing 'Aahhh' for a long time, there were slight tuning discrepancies that added a lovely flavour, like you get with a whole string section, with a lot of people playing. Some are not quite in time, some have slightly different tuning, but musically a lovely thing happens to that. It's a gorgeous sound. A very human sound, very warm and moving all the time. Anyway, after putting the 13 chromatic scale notes back onto the 16-track, it meant there were only three open tracks left!"[/i][/size] One of my all time favourite stories about recording a track
  2. Cant believe this bunch havent turned up in this thread - criminal that! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-crgQGdpZR0
  3. [quote name='ahpook' timestamp='1333367455' post='1600566'] i cycled to practice with a pedalboard and an epiphone thunderbird last week. it's an [i]interesting[/i] experience ! [/quote] Used to do this all the time, you get some odd looks!
  4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5_QV97eYqM
  5. [quote name='Alec' timestamp='1332771639' post='1592839'] [url="http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/Krampera_Amplifier.html"]Krampera[/url] KVB800 head + KVB1B + KVB1T cabs - package price £3,475 from Bass Direct [url="http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/Mesa_Boogie_Big_Block_750amp.html"]Mesa Big Block 750[/url] head + PowerHouse 4x10 + 2x15 cabs - around £4,450 from Bass Direct In my view, PA based setups shouldn't count in this category. I'd say it should be purpose built bass kit - a head and 2 cabs. Maybe a separate pre & power amp configuration. PA systems could get silly, as you can just put together a Glastonbury, or bigger, PA system of any time and it'd cost you a hefty six figure amount. It would amplify bass, but it's not a bass amp. [/quote] Thats OK then, nothing I suggested is anything to do with PA kit at all
  6. Bet this sounds the dogs nads. Have a bump from me
  7. [quote name='Valhalalf' timestamp='1333211585' post='1598818'] I do audio mastering .... ....engineers. [/quote] Excellent response. In terms of mastering material for albums, and specifically for CD release it also entails making a redbook standard CD, with ISRC codes and a UPC code. The ISRC codes are one per track, and you get them from the PRS, they are required in order for your tracks to have royalties paid against them being played (ie on the radio), and a UPC code (barcode) you get from http://www.gs1uk.org (IIRC you can get a one off for £25) to put on the CD.
  8. All the best Linus, woudl be ace to say I've raced against NMA's current bassist
  9. Massively excellent basses for the money IMO. The necks are prone to a fair bit of seasonal movement IME, but with that thin a neck what can you expect (its nothing that a tweak of the truss rod wont sort out). Very very playable and superb sound for the cash. I've recommended these on a fair few threads!
  10. When you playing in Brighton then
  11. Cheers! Both basses were going through a rather knackered old Hartke 410 'combo' for monitoring and then into the PA. Bass pickup is a K & K Bassmax, which 'just works' brilliantly. Sound checking was minimal on the bass front (ie there was none) so it was a best guess after a line check and the first band went on. I've doen a bit of work on the recording (as well as editing it) since I do love to make the best of things sonically. Havent changed anythign obvious though, its still very much the sound on the night.
  12. Well Plux's is fine (after a setup and a decent set of strings were put on it) You can here it [url="http://soundcloud.com/51m0n-1/sets/brighton-and-hove-youth-big-1"]here[/url]
  13. Yeah, mad isnt it! Its almost as if they may at some point actually turn into decent hardworking members of society. No hold on that can't be right.... I have no idea if these arrangements are written by band leader or not to be honest Bilbo, they are pretty up for changing things around. They do a version of Birdland with both bassists, which I've yet to hear (can't wait!), that is definitely their own.
  14. [quote name='icastle' timestamp='1333034327' post='1596543'] [sigh] Can someone please reboot 51m0n... [/quote] [i][b][size=6]SLAP[/size][/b][/i] Err, thanks
  15. [quote name='sixdegrees' timestamp='1333030342' post='1596448'] Ampeg SVT 7 Pro. Only had it a few months. But having thought about it, I did raise the pickup height on my new Precision, and was digging in on the Jazz having dropped the tuning. So I think I'm to blame... [/quote] Sounds likely, both of those activities are likely to get the signal a bit hotter.
  16. [quote name='icastle' timestamp='1333030150' post='1596438'] Well assuming you weren't getting carried away like 51m0n obviously does ( ) then the amp is starting to look like the prime suspect - what is it? [/quote] FNARRRR - OOOWWPPHHH GWOP... <snigger>
  17. Well, you could have been digging in harder due to excess enjoyment, stop it at once
  18. Plus the extra driver area compensates for the drop in output from the amp. Great amps, great cab, have a bump from me too
  19. [quote name='silddx' timestamp='1333007669' post='1595982'] It sounds great mate! And so does Plux! I only heard a couple of them, there's only so much Jazz one can manage in a single sitting Which do you think think is his standout track? [/quote] Bwahahaha! Yeah, can't argue with that Track 7 is pretty nice on DB, he was playing with real confidence I think (so he's pretty clear in the recording), hit all the stabs and swung like a donkey's appendage, to my albeit very untrained ear. Track 8 is pretty bonkers on electric, remember he was reading the dots for this on stage, it's latin, which he finds pretty tricky (having listened to too much funk and rock stuff, as is the law in our household), with feel changes into a pretty fast walking line, and he doesnt get to rehearse this at all with the band. Really aquitted himself well I think. I certainly couldnt do it! I also think the very last track is quite cool, lots of seat of the pants improv by the horns (with varying success), held together with a vice like grip from the rhythm serction, very unexpected guitar solo, and at the end they are joined by the Concert Band (who played first on the night) for a really big New Orleans-esque sound. Great way to end the gig! [quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1333009677' post='1596010'] Very good. [/quote] Cheers ET!
  20. Saw some dodgy band with some dude in gloves a couple of times They were rather excellent as it goes. I'd like to see (in ni particular order at all) Nearly Dan, Our Helical Mind, CreepJoint and Dick Venom. But they dont let me out much any more
  21. In case any of you chaps in DB land never get into the General Bass area, there is a topic in there about Plux's first proper headlining gig with the Brighton Youth Big Band on db and electric bass. Huge thanks to all those of you on this forum who have helped us with advice and more about db's, pickups etc etc. Its been completely invaluable. The topic is [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/171847-pluxs-first-proper-gig-with-the-big-band/"]Plux's first proper gig with the big band[/url]:- You can hear the gig here:- [url="http://soundcloud.com/51m0n-1/sets/brighton-and-hove-youth-big-1"]http://soundcloud.co...ove-youth-big-1[/url] Cheers!
  22. Or not it would seem
  23. Link Added to OP and here:- http://soundcloud.com/51m0n-1/sets/brighton-and-hove-youth-big-1 Enjoy
  24. [quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1263917902' post='718006'] Years ago I got one in the front of an Escort with the body on the front seat (end pin to ceiling) and the neck in the foot well. If the body isn't too wide, its actually a perfectly credible way of transporting the thing. (Seatbelt recommended!!) [/quote] +1 Thats how I transport ours in the '96 BMW 3 series. Damnably tough getting gear in or out of that car, to the point of complete frothing at the mouth on occasion
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