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Given your reliance on emulation I'd record clean (although feel free to monitor with any fx your system can cope with. Then sort the actual sound out afterwards. That way you should concentrate on the performance the most....
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[quote name='lettsguitars' post='1228648' date='May 12 2011, 12:27 PM']eq! dist guitar-lose averything below 700hz and above 1k. and then add a couple of 2db boosts/spikes in the appropriate places according to your sound.[/quote] Err, I'd think losing everyinthin below 700hz and above 1KHz would leave pretty much nothing but a nasty honky sqawk.... [quote name='lettsguitars' post='1228648' date='May 12 2011, 12:27 PM']a little panning goes a long way. this aint the 60's. pan reverbs the opposite way.[/quote] I cant disagree with this enough. Har dpan the crap out of guitars, multitrack them pann half all the way left and half all the way right. Keep them the hell away from the vocal at all costs! Remember the vocal is the song, the chorus is the 'money shot'....
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Dunno if thats a double bass, I dont think it is. Might be though, hard to tell. Sounds like it could be a P bass (at least a P pickup) with a lot of processing to me. Probably a mic'ed cab - sounds like amp overdrive and compression to me - and D.I for the extreme low end (very well done though) Plenty of eq too, lot of very low mid down to deep bass. Warm, almost muddy though, really aiming for the phat bass arent they Then more compression etc etc, and a mix meant to really flatter the bass sound, a lot of space fo rthe bass.... Top sound, reminds me of seeing The Silverfish live at The Zap in Brighton, 'kin hell was that a bass sound to peel your cheeks off!
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If you were wondering why I have been so quiet recently...
51m0n replied to Grand Wazoo's topic in Bass Guitars
Nope, I'm afraid you overreacted, IME a quippe like that would happen in a pub down here in the South East and wouldnt even raise an eyebrow. In fact you'd best stay well away from pubs in general if you're going to get that irate over something that inoffensive! -
Oh, you're using some form of emulation for your distorted guitar rather than an amp? Oh boy... OK, not too much top, not too much top not too much top not too much top not too much top not too much top not too much top not too much top not too much top! Everyone new to this game makes fizzy sounding brittle as sugar guitars. Big distorted guitar sounds roar they dont fizz. A nice smooth shelf from about 3KHz all the way up taking things down by anything upto 10dB can really help guitars sound 'right' in a mix. You dont need a mass of bass, thats what the bass guitar is for - try a high pass at about 150Hz. You dont need a mass of top - it will cut through. You need to leave a space for the singer, so 4Khz is out too. Think around 2KHz for some presence (dont over do it!) have some weight around 400Hz (and scoop the bass a smidge there too), and kill some honk around 750 to 1KHz. Thats all a really really rough guess though, I'd need you to post up the guitar track itself to be sure. Hell I'd need the mix to be really sure, and I havent the time spare to take on anything at the moment I'm afraid....
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[quote name='badboy1984' post='1228451' date='May 12 2011, 09:32 AM']Yeah i gonna do it tonight cos at work atm. but I've try this last night. I've done some testing last night again. Like I said, it sounded ok on monitor speaker and pc speaker. Thats a good start already. Sounded ok on my dad's bose sound system but on ipod you can't hear no distortion at all except some more nasty bass added to the song. I thought is the headphone that is bad so i use a different set of headphone instead of the ipod headphone. The result is even worse. So I tried the headphones again on my pc speaker and my dad's sound system, it sounded ok. So is not headphone problem. Only thing I've not try yet render the track with distortion guitar only and try play it back on the ipod to see can i hear the track or not. If it doesn't, i think i got some problem here .....[/quote] You are rendering this as a vrey high quality mp3 before listening on the ipod arent you?
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Big subject! You need to be adept with panning, eq, multitracking, compression, reverb, limiting, etc etc etc to get a great mix. All of which is pointless if you havent got a well tracked source in the first place, good kit, well played in a good room, properly mic'ed with a decent mic are also required.
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A friend of mine writes AI derived code to design sounds from scratch - clever stuff, and some amazing sounds he gets too, incredibly organic, just amazing.
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[quote name='bremen' post='1227311' date='May 11 2011, 11:26 AM']Or: [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3V2amJMlmE&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3V2amJMlmE...feature=related[/url][/quote] Embedded for you:- That is also scary!
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[quote name='thodrik' post='1227294' date='May 11 2011, 11:17 AM']As a 24 year old male with no physical disabilities, I have never really been taken in by the argument that any piece of bass gear weighing over 12 lbs is just too heavy to be considered as a purchase.[/quote] When I was 21 I had the same attitude. One silly overconfident cockup later and I've been helping various osteopaths' pension plans for the better part of 20 years. Be careful out there all of you who like the heavy gear, a truly knackered back is for life, not just for christmas....
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Thought I'd share some recordings I've recently completed for some very very good friends, Brighton based band Line Horizontal. Have a listen to The Individuils and Your Mouths Are Killing You (first two tracks on the page):- [url="http://www.invisiblelandscapes.co.uk/lh_music.html"]http://www.invisiblelandscapes.co.uk/lh_music.html[/url] Drums tracked to a click in a rehearsal studio with the most basic equipment, overdubs done in Logic on a Mac, some editing done there too. Mixed using Reaper, with a great deal of love. These aren't yet 'mastered' so you are hearing the unadulterated mixes before any fairy dust and leprechaun like magic from a mastering engineer with an audio degree fromo Hogwarts and enough kit to sink the Belgrano twice over.... I hope you like them!
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[quote name='Bill Fitzmaurice' post='1226463' date='May 10 2011, 05:21 PM']Or not. They're also sensible enough to know that the only thing that differentiates heavy gear from lightweight is that heavy gear weighs more. Moot. All that proves is that you prefer one recording to another. [b]A recording is only as accurate as the gear it was recorded with and listened to on[/b].[/quote] And how good the room it was made in sounded at the time it was made......
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Go here:- [url="http://www.invisiblelandscapes.co.uk/lh_music.html"]http://www.invisiblelandscapes.co.uk/lh_music.html[/url] The first two tracks I tracked the drums with a Zoom H4n and a couple of reasonable dynamic mics. The H2 is just a two track version Enough said....
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Oh dear God, Neo is NOT a fad, serious PA have been nearly all Neo for a very long time indeed, simply put the haulage cost for a big neo rig is significantly less than that of a ceramic rig. Too many other factors to say why you like the sound of rig a over rig b, but the actual weight of the rigs is the least of it IME. +1 to the utter tosh in the OP!
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Any way i can bet more bite and aggression out of my amp?
51m0n replied to LiamPodmore's topic in Amps and Cabs
Boost around 1-2kHz Cut a bit (careful or you'll sound thin) around 300Hz New strings -
[quote name='urb' post='1224825' date='May 9 2011, 10:05 AM']One that turns up on time [/quote] Crikey! You'd be like gold dust if you were a singer
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That will need either pretty nifty monitoring (tiny ickle bookshelf nearfields wont cut it, something as hefty as the old Circle 5s should be fine though). The best bit about the headphones and 112dB thing for me is it removes the room from the equation. Not having areal monitoring space set up means that this at least gives me a definite platform to work in.
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Good set of headphones and this can make a wonderful monitoring solution:- [url="http://www.112db.com/redline/monitor/"]http://www.112db.com/redline/monitor/[/url]
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[quote name='JTUK' post='1213644' date='Apr 28 2011, 11:17 AM']Looks good to me.[/quote] \well it would, you clearly like an outlandishly endowed body, and who wouldn't!
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[quote name='silddx' post='1212731' date='Apr 27 2011, 03:32 PM']I got the new 13" MacBook Pro 4Gb on Sunday. I'm totally new to Mac and it's been an absolute pleasure switching from Windows. Looks like a great machine too. I love it! I've not really used a DAW before but I intend to get Reaper and a multi-channel audio interface, probably a Focusrite Saffire 24 VRM, unless anyone knows of a more suitable one. I hear it's only FW400 compatible though and may need an adapter, is that right?[/quote] Oooh nice one mate! I've got some Reaper projects you might like the look of I have ;o) Not sure if you can use VSTs in 'Macland' though...
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Any of you interested in micing guitar cabs really ought to invest in a Cascade Fathead II ribbon mic. Blows a 57 or in fact any condensor away in that role, also double as a loevly mic on a strident vocalist and a great room mic or drums....
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I have always preferred Grooveshark's more eclectic list of tracks...
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If you stand right in front of a low cab the nature of the radiation of the sound from said cab will be giveing your ears a vastly higher ratio of low end to upper mid. This is an absolute fact, no arguing with it, its how bass frequencies work compared to high frequencies. IME the very best situation is to have your drivers at ear level. That way you eq your sound based upon a clear and accurate mix of the top end and bottom end coming of the drivers/cab. This means what hits your audience is what hits you but further away. To this end I find getting the cab up high and not angled is the ideal to always aim for. If at all possible get your cab as close to the back wall as you can. Once everything is set up start with a flat eq at gig volumes and gently shape your sound to where you like it. Should take about 20 seconds if all you are doing is eq, takes me a minute or so as I usually set up a compressor too. This is so critical that I would seriously suggest getting something to stand your rig on at all gigs.
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[i][b]Good[/b][/i] multi band compressor for £60 Nope, doesn't exist. Unless you luck out on a Trace, and even then I think that is not really good, but rather passable live. Its too noisy and lacks any real control over the operation. Then again there aren't really any good compressors for £60 either...