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[quote name='gafbass02' post='947985' date='Sep 7 2010, 09:32 AM']Oh and while I'm here: [/quote] Love it!

[quote name='johnnylager' post='948023' date='Sep 7 2010, 09:56 AM']Cheers Simon, that's GASsed me up a good'un.[/quote] It gets better/worse, the digital chorus on it is lovely, it has a tube preamp built in and a fantastic 4 band semi-parametric eq, all with digital settings. Bloody powerful beastie for the cash. Its built like a tank! The expression pedal can control a lot of different parameters (only one at a time though) It has a built in programmable notch filter to deal with room/stage resonances, never seen this in anything else and its total genius!!! If I had to (really) criticise I'd say the following:- There is a noticeable pause when changing between programs where the signal cuts out - no pause when turning individual fx on or off in a program though (if you run it like that) There is a fault in the firmware whereby you have to exit and reenter into the envelope filter effect to hear changes in the blend between effected and uneffected. I told Digitech about it and they responded with my workaround as the solution - genius, not! The non tube preamp overdrive/distortion is pretty minging, fortunately the tube overdrive is far nicer, and really responds to diggin in to get more grind. The tube preamp is pretty dark (eq will fix this in no time, changing the tube may also sort this) Too much emphasis on reverb/delay as opposed to running a phaser and a env filter for instance, typical of fx units for 'bass' stolen from units really origainlly desinged for guitar. I gave mine to Plux and went to pedals as a result of the last issue, if they had done a BP8b that sorted the issues out I never would have changed, its a superb multifx, but for those niggles...

[quote name='gafbass02' post='947974' date='Sep 7 2010, 09:22 AM']How about the zoom b2.1 or b2.1ut? Really great bits of kit. Davemuadib uses one for just that. Infact his is programmed with just three sounds all with compressor applied it just goes clean (with some eq)> chorus>drive over and over. I've owned both models and really rate em.[/quote] The Digitech BP8 (if you can find one) has a lovely analogue compressor with digital control section so you can save settings, it also allows varying amounts of top end thru uncompressed, which can make it way less obvious that you are crushing the knackers out of the low end. The tuner is also excellent. Finding one may be tricky though!

[quote name='mike f' post='947749' date='Sep 6 2010, 10:36 PM']Primus -John The Fisherman[/quote] +1 Live the dive bomb harmonic slap Bweeeohhhhhhggh thing he does Probably my favourite Primus track of all time - I have no idea how he plays that and sings it at the same time, the juxtaposition of vocals against bass is beyond a mindf***. He must have two brains!

[quote name='jakesbass' post='947573' date='Sep 6 2010, 07:54 PM']Funnily enough Si I have been considering retraining recently... Spuds have not really entered my thinking though. Lovely band, lovely songs and singer = 1 very lucky boy... I love it![/quote] Well you see, I 'm all about the good advice mate ;o) I loved it, really. Cant help thinking that Beedster needs to have a listen to this, he may stop fretting so much about what mics to get if he hears the quality of that vocal recording just using an SM58. Nice mic-pre I would think!

[quote name='Kev' post='654053' date='Nov 13 2009, 10:36 PM']why is this not pinned?? The power of Equality - RHCP [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2bboRR9Tjg&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2bboRR9Tjg...feature=related[/url] I will never stop drooling over that Wal tone, big factor in BSSM being my favourite album ever released.[/quote] Holy cow they tracked that with masses of compression! Thats old skool sound engineering that is, love it....

"Thish ish my mate Tommushhh, he playsh gitar too, heeesh brill, can he 'ave a go on yoursh pleeesh, heesh fab, no really he ishhh..." "Sorry, I dont know him, I dont know you, you are having a very good time, and I can t risk my kit" "But why not, he'sh rea'y rea'y good [hic]" "Well he can't actually stand unsupported, and he cant give me a down payment of £5000 to cover the likely damage" "You no fun, and your bandsh-crap!" "Thank you very much, have a nice night, bye then...."

First thought - damn she's got a fabulously rich voice! Second thought - who's that monkey on bass, what an imposter, no way he deserves that beautiful instrument, clearly he should be giving that to me and taking up a career as potatoe integrity technician... Third thought - they're a [b]really [/b]good band aren't they... Fourth thought - maybe I should be giving away my kit and becoming a potatoe integrity technician....

[quote name='JTUK' post='944537' date='Sep 3 2010, 01:46 PM']Nope... that is such a paradox. I would deffo have the Ampeg top if I had crew but wouldn't be seen dead with the box of cornflakes under it..!!! [/quote] HAHAHA Sounds exceptional that cab (IMO)

Check out www.gearslutz.com Bruce Swedian (the engineer behind those albums) posts oin there a lot of info about them. Fascinating reading, you'll be there for hours! For instance on [url="http://www.gearslutz.com/board/bruce-swedien/74322-thriller-michael-jackson-classic-bass-synth-p-y-t-2.html"]P.Y.T[/url] Enjoy!

HAHAHAAAA The Cheese Farmer bought some amps and cabs last year for Blur reunion gigs, had them all custom made. Of course he went for [url="http://www.audiokitchenamps.co.uk/"]Audio Kitchen[/url] Here is a little [url="http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=630883"]proof[/url] That would be because he cant afford Ampeg then?? Damn he must really have got a lot of that cheese stuck in his ears, eh Dave

[quote name='Ghost_Bass' post='944395' date='Sep 3 2010, 11:45 AM']IAs for the "all-valve real thing tone" i think that Sadowsky posted some pages back would hammer the SVP to a pulp.[/quote] That'd be why I posted it

The crux of your argument (or one part of it ) is that the best loudest meanest muthaf****ers all use Ampeg right? Well in that case, if that was true then they would all always use it, all of the time. Except in 2008 Trujillo was using Hiwatt with Metallica, of course when the deal came up for renewal, being the corporate whore he is he went for the deal with the biggest number at the bottom (again) so its Ampeg at the moment. Dont think it wont change next tour though. Interestingly IMO the best bass tone he has ever achieved on a CD was on Art of Rebellion (Suicidal Tendencies) in which he had some exceptionally nice analogue gear to allow seperate compression of the top and bottom frequencies of his signal. Fantastic bass tone off his Tobias collection there, far better than anything I've heard from him in Metallica. About the longest standing Ampeg endorser I can think of is Mr Billy Sheehan (he of the amazing chainsaw through mud tone) - and nobody out there sounds like he does ([url="http://www.billysheehan.com/photos/photos_equipment05.html"]enough processing on his bass to launch a thousand missiles[/url]). But even he uses a bunch of other stuff as well in the studio (other pres for a start, Alembic and Yamaha IIRC). How can this possibly be if your argument holds any water at all???

Dave, the cheese farmer in question happens to like the SVT -> 810 thing. Bit like you do. He has the luxury of some poor roadie to move it for him too! So he uses one. So what? We can name a myriad serious bassists in huge bands that happen to not like or use that particular solution, since it is not the only one. Why can not accept that it is really not the be all and end all of bass tone? Why do you continue to try and say that there are people on this forum in this thread who dont know what they are talking about? I assure you that I, and I think anyone else reading this thread, would seriously struggle to pick anyone out as not knowing what they were talking about, since I havent actually seen anyone in here saying anything unreasonable but you. And the only thing you are saying that is unreasonable is that there is NOTHING better than an SVTIIPro into an Ampeg 810 for any bass application. That is not true for everyone. Not even close! It may be the best tone for you that you can imagine (hey congratulations you search is over), but unless you only play one style of music for the rest of your life, or your taste in bass tones never ever changes, then that will not always be the case anyway. Had it crossed you mind at any point that there are many iconic bass tones in rock that aren't in any way reliant on an Ampeg SVT or an 810? Have a listen to some Stranglers, mate, you may learn a thing or two....

Top smart stuff!

[quote name='Pete Academy' post='943642' date='Sep 2 2010, 04:47 PM']Have I missed something? Did someone mention chavs?... [/quote] Oi stop posting - I still cant scroll past your avatar!

[quote name='dave74200' post='943619' date='Sep 2 2010, 04:36 PM']No, you're right mate. Ampeg SVT's are total sh*te. You've converted me and i'm going to sell mine at a car boot sale for a tenner. It propably won't sell though cos it's such a load of crap. Perhaps I'll just give it away to some 'fool' who likes having a really bad tone.[/quote] :snob:

[quote name='dave74200' post='943540' date='Sep 2 2010, 03:52 PM'][b]Anyone who knows their onions will have heard a Precision through an SVT 2 and 8x10 cabinet. That's what it sounds like, the real deal[/b]![/quote] Oh dear.... You see this is it, where you are going so very wrong. A precision thru an SVT into a fridge sounds like a precision going thru an SVT and into a fridge. That is only 'the real deal' if thats the sound you want. Otherwise its cr*p. Totally and utterly cr*p. Its also damnably heavy, liable to failure (its a tube amp), and remarkably inefficient by modern standards (that would be a sealed cab, cant argue with physics mate!). Oh, and arguably overpriced. There are also other options available for achieving similar or even better sounds. Yes there are, however hard you try and deny it. Some of those options may or may not use tubes, sealed cabs, no amp at all. But they all can achieve timbres close enough to the venerable SVT->Coffin, some are considered even better. Those are the facts. Until you have heard and tried all those options though, you cant just say nothing else can even compare, because on a forum like this there are almost certainly a bunch of people who have actually tried significantly more gear than you have, and between all the people on here I guarantee they have more experience than you on your own. If you were on Talkbass you would be arguing with the likes of [url="http://bowlusblog.blogspot.com/"]TomBowlus[/url], and he's got more gear in his basement than almost anyone on this forum has even tried I reckon.... If you had said, "Finally I'm back where I started, its been a crazy long winded trip, but I love the tone of my blah blah blah" you'd have had nothing but support. Instead you try to tell a lot of people who have a lot of experience with some extremely high end kit that if their preference is not for the amp you like then they dont know what they are talking about. That tends to get people into a bit of a mob, you will get bashing for it. You got exactly wht you deserved IMO. Never mind alls well that ends well

Svengali Vole Tappits Saturated Vintage Thermisters

Slanderous Vented Tripe....

FWIW an SM57 can make a pretty decent kick mic if its in exactly the right position... Not a lot of people know that

[quote name='Bilbo' post='943133' date='Sep 2 2010, 10:58 AM']We have all said things on here we later regret. I reserve the right to be an arse at least once in a while. Perfection is merely aspirational![/quote] I'm sorry Bilbo you cant reserve that right, I already made that reservation, its right here in the book see, under the name 51....