51m0n

IME a 1x10 on its own is very likely to struggle with even pretty small gigs. The built in speaker is in all likelihood 8 ohm, any extension box you add will be the same, so the 1x10 will get an equal amount of power as any extension cab you plug in with it. So in short you are right in that the limiting factor will still be that 1x10 cone. There are some 1x12 cabs which handle humoungous amounts of power (Berg IP112 is the daddy) but they are stupendously expensive. Cheap and Lightweight are not often found together I'm afraid. The TC210 is pretty cheap for what you get, and the Aggie DB112 and GS112 are reasonably cheap for the performance, and although not neo lightweight, they arent back breaking.

[quote name='Raggy' post='771693' date='Mar 11 2010, 03:06 PM']Same as mate [/quote] ROFLMFAO!

All quiet on the Western Front, I'll be expecting a dawn attck from the East then, som kind of pincer movement perhaps??? :ph34r:

[quote name='Raggy' post='771683' date='Mar 11 2010, 03:02 PM']Dude, I am so glad you edited that due to the bad spelling [/quote] I can spell fine, I just have typing dyslexia! [quote name='Dubs' post='771684' date='Mar 11 2010, 03:03 PM']AM1, is that you...?!?![/quote] Nah, I get on fine with AM1, and she plays far rougher too!

[quote name='smurfitt' post='771656' date='Mar 11 2010, 02:40 PM']Quote 5im0n: [i]In your highly in depth investigations did you happen to take into account the tiny width of an LMII compared to a standard 19" rack unit? It is only 10.87 in. / 27.6 cm wide, leaving approximately 4.5 inches on either side of the back of the unit to the inner edges of the rack case.[/i] Er yes I know it needs rack ears. Re: my punctuation: yet another personal sleight and totally off topic again. As I said relevant info is all I wanted not your opinion.[/quote] The need for rack ears is not what I was getting at. The point is that according to you the owner of the SKB case stated that the back of the LMII would be close to the catches of the back of the case. Those catches are on the left and right edges of the case. Due to the width of the case versus the width of the amp they would be over 4 inches away! So it is very very unlikely that the rack would actually cause you an issue. Did you understand that or would you like me to do a diagram? (seriously) RE: Punctuation, this is a written word medium, as such if you wish to be understood it is best practice on this forum to use well punctuated, well spelled and grammatically correct posts. This is not a personal sleight, it is a fact understood by all the non-newbies on here. Please play along.

[quote name='smurfitt' post='771645' date='Mar 11 2010, 02:34 PM']Maths comment was sarcasm in response to insinuating I couldn't work out dimensions. Pancake thrower was not a personal sleight nor aimed at anyone in particular. I happen to have a career in the field of law so am quite knowledgeable about what is/is not abusive, slander and defamation of character. Josh....does 5im0n really need you to act as his defence counsellor him or is it a case of us boys stick together? I won't tar you all with the same brush as I know there are some mature members on this site who are very welcoming and helpful to newbies and understand the frustrations of trying to get sensible replies.[/quote] Your further stated dimensions were innaccurate however. You were rude, in general then not in particular, oh well that makes it fine. Other people may chip in as and when they want to try to point out that a person is right or wrong, that is the nature of the internet. I need no one to back me up, you have damned yourself with your own posts to date. My responses on the other hand have been absolutely accurate. I happen to have a career in engineering, so when it comes to data and dimensions I am extremely precise. I have over 20 years experience in bass guitar, 20+ years experience in pro audio (live and in the studio) and am a self confessed gear geek. You stick to what you are good at (arguing for money) and I'll keep dishing out the facts. My thats a high old horse you are trying to throw yourself off...

[quote name='smurfitt' post='771606' date='Mar 11 2010, 01:59 PM']In response to all your posts: You did not back up my decision to 'rack' my amp; you suggested I stick it in a flightcase with leads etc, which is not the same as racking it.[/quote] No I didnt, at all times during this topic I have referred to rack cases. It may come as a shock to you to learn that you can connect more than one item of equiptment together in a rack case and put the lids on for transporting and ease of setup. This is commonly called racking gear. It is not necessary to have flightcase to do this. [quote name='smurfitt' post='771606' date='Mar 11 2010, 01:59 PM']I have not purchased anything yet to have 'wasted' any money so get your facts right. If you read my post accurately you will see that I did investigate the dimensions of the LM11 but as another BC member told me the SKB would not be suitable due to the minimal difference in depth I decided a post might provide further info. I am not 'stupid or lazy'; more like thorough in my research.[/quote] Your question should have read "I'm interested in an SKB shallow rack case, but since it is less than half an inch shorter than an LMII could anyone other than the person selling the case, who has already advised against it, recommend another alternative, please?" Had you done so I would have only mentioned the Gator case. Which I can hand on heart guarantee will work for you. In your highly in depth investigations did you happen to take into account the tiny width of an LMII compared to a standard 19" rack unit? It is only 10.87 in. / 27.6 cm wide, leaving approximately 4.5 inches on either side of the back of the unit to the inner edges of the rack case. Did you mention this to the owner of the SKB case at all? After all they may not be fully aware of the diminutive dimensions of the LMII. [quote name='smurfitt' post='771606' date='Mar 11 2010, 01:59 PM']I am not your son nor male.[/quote] Certainly you aren't, he is on this forum too, and has impeccable manners. So a very different human being from youself then. [quote name='smurfitt' post='771606' date='Mar 11 2010, 01:59 PM']Unlike you I have not been abusive; it shows poor self control and lack of intelligence.[/quote] Oh, really, please explain this:- [quote name='smurfitt' post='770591' date='Mar 10 2010, 04:27 PM']That's because the Gator is 47.5cm depth, which is more than the depth of your amp by 17.3cm ! The difference between my amp head depth and that of a SKB is less than half an inch (or 1.3cm)! [b]Did you do Maths at school?[/b][/quote] That would have been your first response to me trying to clear this up with some actual data from the manufacturers for you. Who is showing poor self control and a lack of intelligence there then? Not only myself, but several other people on this topic have commented on your attitude. You [b]are[/b] rude. Examples:- [quote name='chris_b' post='770671' date='Mar 10 2010, 05:36 PM']Please don't ask questions if you're going to be rude to those who try to help![/quote] [quote name='ThomBassmonkey' post='771295' date='Mar 11 2010, 09:49 AM']It never ceases to amaze me that people ask for advice on forums then they're so rude to people that try to help. People are trying to tell you that a shallow rack case IS ok and they're also trying to find out your circumstances so they can try and help you as much as possible. And in response to asking GAK for help regarding rack cases, just a warning. I did that and now I'm stuck carting around a full size 4u rack case for my head because they fobbed me off with that instead of a shallow one. If I'd put less faith in them, maybe I'd have a suitable one that isn't a HUGE waste of space and too big to fit in any of the usual sized gaps between gear in a van.[/quote] [quote name='smurfitt' post='770591' date='Mar 10 2010, 04:27 PM']My replies have been factual and straight to the point but maybe you are not familiar with assertive women.[/quote] As above, your replies have been rude. They have also been fairly garbled with innaccurate punctuation and innaccurate information, which doesn't help your cause. I am familiar with assertive women, thank you, I am also familiar with rude, ungrateful people too, of which you are one. [quote name='smurfitt' post='770591' date='Mar 10 2010, 04:27 PM']You do not have to bother with me again; I sure won't lose any sleep over that as you are i-n-s-i-g-n--f-i-c-a-n-t in my life. Have a nice day day. [/quote] Excellent, I am so glad you feel I am insignificant in your life, this is mutual I can assure you, I hate bad manners however. I hope you are treated by others as you would treat them. Once again a final piece of advice, if you want to get help on a forum, play nice!

[quote name='Rich' post='771506' date='Mar 11 2010, 12:40 PM']Yup, this is precisely why my Shuttle head is rackmounted. Permanently connected to the wireless, mains distribution, etc. And the advantage is that the whole rack is now only marginally heavier than the empty case was! Now... would everyone like to chill out a bit please? :-)[/quote] Heaviest thing in my rack by far is the Focusrite comp, weighs more than all the rest put together I think

[quote name='Dubs' post='771435' date='Mar 11 2010, 11:48 AM']Think he was hinting at more of the 'Sir' element to your post than the sentiment of it...[/quote] Yup, I stand by my statement...

[quote name='clauster' post='771370' date='Mar 11 2010, 10:42 AM']psst you may want to edit your post[/quote] LOL, nah, don't see anything wrong with it, equal opportunity wrath, its the only way

[quote name='smurfitt' post='770591' date='Mar 10 2010, 04:27 PM']That's because the Gator is 47.5cm depth, which is more than the depth of your amp by 17.3cm ! The difference between my amp head depth and that of a SKB is less than half an inch (or 1.3cm)! Did you do Maths at school?[/quote] I shouldnt bother, but you've really stuck in my craw Now I see your issue, you cant do maths, you cant read a spec sheet and you cant convert units. I'm going to go over this once more for the terminally stupid and rude. You need to worry about the INTERNAL depth or length, the external dimension is irrelevant to you. From the Markbass website:- Little Mark II DEPTH 10.1 in. / 25.6 cm From the Gator website:- 2u Shallow Rack Interior Length: 12.25'' From the SKB website:- 2U Shallow "X" Rack 10.5" depth So yes it will fit - but it will be tight, but since you are talking about a 2u case there wont be anything else left plugged in with the lid on. Oh and just to clear it up the STANDARD Gator 2u case is the one that has 16.5'' depth, according to the website.Which is 41.91 centimetres (going by google searches very useful conversion utility just put "16.5 inches in cm" without quotes into the search bar). In future, why dont you get off your lazy backside and do a tiny bit of investigation for yourself, then if you have a question ask it directly, and then be courteous to those who respond. Good day to you.

Hey thanks so much for this! Hoping it will really help me start to get my head into this whole area, which I pretty much faked my way through up until now. You are a gentleman and a scholar

[quote name='51m0n' post='770480' date='Mar 10 2010, 02:57 PM']To protect it, put it in a box with other useful gear (tuner, comp etc). The real point to me is they are very lightweight. Its not until you get as small as the F1/F500 that they are realistically small enough to put in a bag or gigbag pocket IMO.[/quote] Notice how I also backed up your decision to rack the thing in the first place. You sir, are an a**e!

[quote name='smurfitt' post='769907' date='Mar 9 2010, 11:18 PM']Is there anyone on this site who makes rackmounts for these heads? Don't want the Markbass bag.[/quote] [quote name='smurfitt' post='770591' date='Mar 10 2010, 04:27 PM']That's because the Gator is 47.5cm depth, which is more than the depth of your amp by 17.3cm ! The difference between my amp head depth and that of a SKB is less than half an inch (or 1.3cm)! [b]Did you do Maths at school?[/b][/quote] With that attitude you can expect to get no help from anyone on this site son. Can it, be pleasant or go and play with the traffic. I wasted MY time double checking the info on the Markbass website which details the depths of all their heads for you to answer your question. Something you could, and certainly should have bothered to do. I gave you a definitive answer to your original question, had you listened before snapping up the SKB case you would have known that a Gator shallow rack case WILL work, but instead you reply like this. You're a newbie, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, this once, be rude to me again and I'll certainly never bother to help you again, and you can continue to waste your money as a result of not bothering to do the simple investigation into the facts that you should have done BEFORE you spent a single bean.

[quote name='BottomEndian' post='770218' date='Mar 10 2010, 11:53 AM']Maxon. Look like crap, sound like heaven. EDIT: Doesn't bother me, though. One of my favourite pedals for guitar is a fuzz I built myself. Plain metal housing, with "DEATH FUZZ" written on in marker pen. [/quote] +1 the AF-9 is beige fer cryin' out loud, how crap is that!!! Still the most wonderfully responsive touch wah I've played, but damn that looks nasty

[quote name='sk8' post='770337' date='Mar 10 2010, 01:15 PM']Plus lots I went in for something completely different amp wise and walked out with a LM3 ....... oh, and a berg stack [/quote] BWAHAHAHAHAAAAA I rest my case I bet its exactly what you wanted and needed, you just didnt know that when you walked through the door

[quote name='Dubs' post='770472' date='Mar 10 2010, 02:51 PM']None... isn't the whole point of having a small Class D amp is that it's small, light and easy to carry around in a tiny gig bag? Why would you rack it?[/quote] To protect it, put it in a box with other useful gear (tuner, comp etc). The real point to me is they are very lightweight. Its not until you get as small as the F1/F500 that they are realistically small enough to put in a bag or gigbag pocket IMO.

OK lets clear this up. I have an SA450 which is listed as being DEPTH 11.9 in. / 30.2 cm, which fits easily into a GATOR 2u or 4u SHALLOW rack case with an inch or so to spare. The LMII is listed as DEPTH 10.1 in. / 25.6 cm so it WILL fit.

[quote name='pantherairsoft' post='770021' date='Mar 10 2010, 07:47 AM']I can only 2nd the stunning service here. Mark invested a great deal of time and effort in me yesterday, happy to take my critisism over a few instruments I tried and didn't like at the shop, and able to open my eyes to others I hadn't considered. He seriously knows his stock and you can tell he's played and understands the qualities of all of his basses. His service is so good he even picked me up and dropped me back off at the train station AND made me a cuppa. He did me a stunningy good deal on a trade with my Overwater and I really don't feel like I could ask for more. I would recommend the Bass Direct service for anyone at all, particuarly those looking to buy a top end instrument and want to know what's really out there. Make the journey to Bass Ditect and try 30 custom basses... There will be one that feels right!!! Cheers Mark[/quote] And you ended up buying the Roscoe Century Standard fretless 6 string from him, he's a clever one that Mark, like a dealer outside the playground, only with bass gear Brilliant!

Phwoarrrr! Thats my bass's fatter cousin who lost his teeth, isnt it??? Beautiful bass matey, I just know how much you are going to enjoy tht, and knowing how obscenely light the Century Standards are, your back will be thanking you too!

I like to take the boys to see Orchestra's whenever possible - last one was at Christmas, they did all your usual suspects for kids, but rather brilliantly they did the entire Snowman, with an actor chappie reading the story. Totally blew me (and the kids and mum) away. Really fantastic.

+1 for a trip to bassdirect, Marks a gent, he will however let you fall in love with hidously expensive gear by letting you play it for as long as it takes, offering very occasional pearls of wisdom - clever git! You have been warned....

Err get a standard 19" 2u shallow Gator or SKB case and the rack ears for the LMII???

Nope the above vid is a different space bass, not the one in the OP:- A couple of personal faves, funky as it gets! and