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[quote name='Raggy' post='705318' date='Jan 8 2010, 11:34 AM']I think it was the finish and size that put me off of them really. [b]2 as a stack would be nice to see tho[/b] Agree with you there, the Bergs do have that certain presence at a gig![/quote] Youser!

[quote name='Musicman20' post='705462' date='Jan 8 2010, 01:52 PM']If I go Berg again it will be ceramic again. I'm thinking big NV cab, or two small 12s. I appreciate the AEs have a great look, and weigh less, but when I A/B'ed some to me there was an inherent neo aggressive honk which is nice, but I'd rather dial it in. Weight now has become a non issue for me, my tone preferences come first. Not knocking neo bergs, incredible kit![/quote] Dont forget to try the HS410 though! Phenominal cab, occasionally they go secopnd hand on here for daft money! I dont really notice a honk, but the ae410 has a bit of an upper mid agressive character that I like, although the sa450 allows me to dial that out if I want.

Go [url="http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/Bergantino,_Passive_AE_bass_speakers.html"]here[/url]:- and get yourself a Berg ae410 or go [url="http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/Bergantino_Bass_Cabinet_HS_Range.html"]here[/url] and get the hs410 (if you dont mind heavy lifting) The current Berg 410s both team up with the MB LMII brilliantly and are pretty much as good as it gets. They are very very loud, punch, clear and focused. And I havent heard anything that comes close to mine. Either way get in contact with Mark from Bassdirect and go and have a play (he's poptart on here), you will not be disappointed!

[quote name='Raggy' post='704903' date='Jan 7 2010, 10:37 PM']Really?????? AE series looks just like any another make of cab to me[/quote] No, for a couple of reasons, the finish is gorgeous, the attention to detail (those B's on the sides really really look cool) and the tinyness. The AE410 in particular, its a full on 410, as good as any other you can buy, at any cost IMO, yet its also the smallest 410 out there, it is tiny (have another look at the piccy of mine and Plux's rigs next to each other). I love the fact that it looks so much smaller than a 'traditional' 410, and yet puts out a tone to match anything else at a volume that knocks down walls. Its pure class! The AE210s on the other hand are only 12" deep, which looks great on a 210. In contrast to my mind the diminutive depth of the NV series looks a lot less cool, its just IMO though, and they do look fab, they just all remind me a bit much of the old HH 215s and the like. Very cool but not as cool as the AE series. At the end of the day though, who cares, they are the best looking cabs as well as the best sounding that you can get IMO. I'd be chuffed to have any of them behind me at a gig!!

[quote name='Musicman20' post='704823' date='Jan 7 2010, 09:34 PM']These two win on looks. If I had room I would have both. I dont have a car big enough for either [/quote] If you say so I've seen the NV series next to the AE series and for me the AE has it on looks as well. My photography skills are, limited, at best, so dont try and compare anything from the photos I've taken

[quote name='mcgraham' post='704207' date='Jan 7 2010, 02:18 PM']I did have a Berg HT115 (sold it to Birdy/Flanker - I forget which!) but I never used it. In fact, I hadn't even unpacked it from the box it shipped in. I have old pics of my single IP112 at home, but I don't have any proper pics of my full IP stack... I must rectify this![/quote] Yup, thats now Plux's one How cool is that!

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='703511' date='Jan 6 2010, 09:38 PM']I wouldn't mind a go of a couple of HT115s or an NV, though. I'm totally sold on Bergs...[/quote] Yeah I know what you mean about the HT115, Plux's is such a great sounding cab! Lucky git

Well if you insist Mine:- Mine and Plux's:-

[quote name='chris_b' post='703036' date='Jan 6 2010, 04:22 PM']OK, but [i]ultimate[/i] means expensive!!. For ultimate bass rigs, the world touring, stadium playing professional bassist, depending on the genre, seems to mostly use; Eden WT800 with 2 XLT410 cabs, or Ampeg SVT2 with 810 cab, or Mesa Boogie 400+ with a 215 cab. Any of these rigs smaller brothers would give any non world touring player all that they could need. [b]In my dreams I would use a Thunderfunk TFB750-A with 2 AE410 cabs, but in reality I've got the next best thing.[/b][/quote] That or run off a BIG Aggie tube amp was my second choice. Of course I'd also need the full Berg NV range in case I needed something more old skool (damn IT there goes the GAS again!)

A pair of Berg IP12 stacks. Seriously, 4 cabs, 4 cones 2Kw of P-Funk Power baby! God above! As for a pre, maybe an Avalon or Summit, or a Neve. Fully custom FX board too. (damn you've brought on the GAS you swine!)

Holy Cow Bat Dude! Amazing story, what are the odds! Do rather hope it all works out for them though....

[quote name='Sibob' post='702320' date='Jan 5 2010, 11:42 PM']Something that Steve Lawson pointed out to me at my last lesson was is the concept of: Is it right? Is it good? Obviously too different things that require subjective thought Si[/quote] +1 Well put! I know you are talking about a jazz perspective and that there are, if not rules, then definite guidelines about what should or should not be played against a given chord, but at the end of the day your ear is the judge, and if its working for you then you are probably fine using it like that. I'm as far from a competent walking bassist as anyone who claims to be able to play a bass at all can be, but even I can hear a clunker when I drop one (which is most of the time )

[quote name='chris_pokkuri' post='701401' date='Jan 5 2010, 11:24 AM']Cheers for the responses. I'm currently using a barefaced big one. I'm sure you know what its like -it doesn't have a tweeter but has a 8" midrange speaker and 15" speaker. Any ideas how this would cope with distotion? Also is there any particular size speaker that deals with it better? Do any sizes/makes sounds better or is it a case of personal taste?[/quote] You'll be fine.

[quote name='bilbo230763' post='701483' date='Jan 5 2010, 12:32 PM']Errrr... that's a good thing, James. The older the better in most cases.[/quote] He's always telling people that

The only real thing to note is turn your tweeter down (if you have one and can) or get a distortion/overdrive that you can turn the treble down on if you cant negate the tweeter. Or go with a tweeter less cab if thats what you're asking. Paper cone top end is the key really. Thats why so many people dig the berg NV range for overdriven bass sounds, and why the AMpeg fridge is still good for something

Just a quick point of order, bass does not get louder further away from the amp. It actually gets quieter like every other sound. However a combination of getting more on axis with the amp bringing up more mids and highs, which your ear processes far better, and possible additive room nodes can certainly make it easier to hear when you arent standing over the cab. All the advice to point the cab at your lugs is spot on. Get it way up at ear level! Chances are a PA monitor wont even come close to handling bass, the guitarist should go through the PA (he needs a much lower wattage amp in all probability) his effects will work just fine, especially as most PA monitors will handle guitar just fine thank you very much. He is talking complete plop. I had the same battle with my guitarist for a good while, now he swears by it.

Best: Bassdirect Worst: Oh so many....

Absolutely possible. You'd be looking for a device called an active crossover....

Heeeeyyyyyy sounds like you are in exactly the right place at the right time. Nice one!

Sounds superb matey! All the very best of luck with it!!

If you can do it pop over to bassdirect and see Mark (he's poptart on this forum - pm him) bassdirect has a staggering array of great gear (really he's got some simply phenominal gear that will make your old Trace rig sound very very average) He's a top bloke who will let you mull for a couple of hours and see what suits you, he really really knows his stuff too. Until you've done that you're really just playing a guessing game IMO....

BSSM was probably the best funk album of the decade IMO Really. It had none of the cheese associated with funk of the 80's (remember it came out in '91!), and had a truly funky feel throughout, raw as eggs though. It was groovier than anything that anyone had heard since P-Funk put on nappies It had a couple of absolutely killer singles It had massive label and MTV backing It was (and still is) the high point of RHCP (by a country mile). Anyone doubting this really needs to listen to it and then their personal favourite RHCP album. As a whole album it is clearly their best, and I'm a bona fide RHCP nut of old, IMO the next best is either Mothers Milk (for the horns of all things) of Freakey Stylee, they havent come close with anything after Californiaction, and One Hot Minute was a rock album. None of the other bands mentioned had anything like such a high quality product and follow up (OHM flopped this side of the pond, was massive in the US) I like a lot of the other bands mentioned, and other than not [i]quite[/i] having anything as good (although Nothing's Shcking and Sailing The Seas are as close as Reality of My Surroundings - all in the next rung down IMO) they all had less backing/marketing or just ex/imploded (Jane's Addiction, Primus, Fishbone). RHCP, apart from having a similar issue to Spinal Tap, but with guitarists, have stayed constant for years and years. Their music has steadily declined in freshness though. Of course they were lucky! But they gave themselves a chance by sticking together and having some great material. And the gift of the gab.... IMO colour had nothing to do with Fishbone not being where RHCP are. Fishbone were great, though more niche, and utterly exploded

[quote name='donut' post='695045' date='Dec 28 2009, 06:55 PM']I'm sure I heard a fill at 1:34... [/quote] See, I always said Rocco overplayed.....

Not that much I'm afraid, I got about £100 for a G300 a couple of years ago and considered myself lucky!

I use three, with a floaty thumb technique on the 5 string. Been that way for a while. I don't think there is any real speed advantage for a lot of things, it just feels right (and I strictly alternate too). Guess I'm weird!