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Cant comment on flats, but roundwounds record best for me if they are just played in, no more than 30 mins of warm up. You can always take the treble out, it still leaves all the juicy extra harmonic content in lower down - sounds the dogs. I hate bass sounds that go (muffled) ' donk ' though.....

If no one minds I may well collate this all in a single word doc, and maybe when a topic is complete I'll post it up as a downloadable 'chapter'??? Or it could go in the wiki???

Holy cow, thats a masterful lesson. Thanks for the effort! This will be really nice to work through over the next couple of weeks. Cheers!!

[quote name='Linus27' post='530643' date='Jul 2 2009, 02:01 PM']OK, talking from a non-expert background. I have always found that a 1x15 was always a lot bassier and boomier, especially when comparing like for like. For example, a Trace 1x15 combo always sounded bassier than the 4x10 combo. Even my two Ashdown MAG cabs I had sounded different with my MAG head. The 1x15 was much fuller and bassier than the 2x10 was cleaner, smoother with less bottom end. This was where I actually found the Ashdown 1x15 sounding wooly. So basing on my experience on different cabs, a 1x15 had always sounded too bass heavy for me and why I always chose the 4x10 option. Now, your cabs may be different but I just wanted to explain why I commented on a 4x10 sound.[/quote] Thats a really common misconception, but if I told you the newly aquired Berg HT115 didnt go as deep as the Berg HT210 it works with, or have as much growl would that surprise you? The 115 has a lovely warm tone, masses of low mid punch, very smooth. Gorgeous sound, not at all slow. Its been widely stated as the ultimate 115 by such bass gear luminaries as Tom Bowlus (a man with probably the largest bass gear fetish on the planet). Well as the 210 is a bigger volume box which accounts for the added lows, it also has tens which tend to provide more upper mid range. They both have the same tweeter in. So the really important difference is the box volume, for depth at least. The smaller volume of the HT115 means less depth. The upshot of all this is the 210 sounds more hifi than the 115, both together is magical though! Most 410 boxes are pretty big, so they go pretty deep, (assuming all else equal).

You lot are so going to enjoy this

Uncoloured is a pretty tricky and subjective thing (Ashdown are really coloured IMO for instance) I'd +1 Alex' Compact mate, really think it'ss give you what you need, but if it doesnt the Big One will Or my usual response Berg AE410, I have a bad back, but I dont really struggle with this at all, its tiny as 410s go. Or the Berg ae12 stack Or if you are rolling in wonger the IP112 (lifted one last weekend, they are very light!) plus 112er

Just to prove I now live at Chez Berg, and cos I havent for a while (certainly not since the new bits went in the rack) here is some more:- And:- Keeps me very happy!

[quote name='birdy' post='529391' date='Jul 1 2009, 10:05 AM']Thats neat that the cabs match in terms of look and size!! I can imagine how good it sounds! Steve[/quote] Yeah, looks the business doesn't it!! He's totally made up. Got to get in touch with OBBM about some serious jack to speakon speaker cables next....

New Berg HT115 in the house Strickly speaking this is Plux's rig (my eldest). But he never gets around to posting (far too busy playing) so I thought I'd share. Got the HT115 off Birdy, and here is the full stack including the HT210, sounds fantastic!

I like the way you can tell the songs are written on keys first. Well sounds that way to me (probably find they are written on banjo now ) She sounds a bit like Tori Amos I think, which is no bad thing - maybe mad in a different way - it will be great stuff to gig though.

Nice one mate, congratulations!

Yup, but on the plus side, that first audition is always the worst. Will be way easier moving forward. Gonna meet these funky rocksters and see what they are like Its like riding a bike, chaps!

Got to play Steve (Birdy)'s J5 today through his IP stack with the EBS pre (I was buying some rubbishy old 115 he had lying around off him ) Damn thats a great rig, staggeringly beautiful bass, that absolutely sings! Certainly the finest J stylee bass I've ever tried. You're a lucky fella! First time I've played through the IP stack, crikey! Just, crikey!!!!!

LOL, what a PIA, now for the ingenious back saving device post, that shows how you made this easy, or the other option, a post about how utterly knackered you back now is You know its worth it!

Between myself and Plux, we own 5, so that takes you up to 1537...

[quote name='birdy' post='526859' date='Jun 28 2009, 05:20 PM']Can't find a thread for Simon so I will start one! Simon bought my Berg 1x15 cab off me and drove a long long way to pick it up!! Turned up as promised with the cash and took it away. Lovely guy and a pleasure to deal with. Steve[/quote] Cheers Steve, pleasure to do business, what he doesnt mention is me boring him stupid with waffling superlatives about his IP112 stack and Alleva Copolla bass (serious droolage chap - as if you didnt know). Son no.1 (Plux on here) is totally made up, his Berg HT stack is now complete. He's been saving like mad on the off chance that Steve would want to move the HT115 on at some point, and Steve was good enough to offer it to me since I'd expressed an interest way back when he bought it. What a gent Promise to get some piccies up of the 'House of Bergantino' as we are dubbing 51m0n Villas these days

[quote name='OldGit' post='525235' date='Jun 26 2009, 07:48 PM']Ah you are making the classic mistake of thinking anyone will even notice if you make a mistake (other than you band mates but you can control them)[/quote] +1 The audience is almost incapable of hearing anything but the largest error in bass. [quote name='OldGit' post='525235' date='Jun 26 2009, 07:48 PM']Unless you make a huge bloomer such as starting something verry loudly in C rather than G (guilty!) then they really won't and anyway, it's only rock and roll...[/quote] Me too Its was a blues as well, and they started on the 4 and I went for the one, and stubbornly stuck to the wrong chord all the way through - my excuse was I thought the inversions sounded cooler [quote name='OldGit' post='525235' date='Jun 26 2009, 07:48 PM']If you were the lead singer or guitarist or even the drummer you'd be much more exposed than we are bumbling along undeneath it all at the back. That's whay some of us do it. It's a classic joke about being able to gig two weeks after getting our first bass but there's some truth in it [/quote] +1 to this too, if you dont want to be heard, you can scoop some mid out and most of the top, you'll be felt more than heard and that will be a nice additional safety net...

Look chaps, thanks for all the support, and baiting of breath and generally joining in. Its been more fun than the work side of it in a lot of ways. I really believe these guys strung me along as the others who turned up weren't up to it. I dont think I'll ever bother with a 'second audition' again. It either clicks or it doesnt. You live and learn. Anyone thinking they would do a second audition I suggest you reread the thread and read between the lines a bit! I suspected then (to a certain extent) and now (pretty much for sure) that they kept me as the fallback in case no one else turned up with a fender bass with mud strings who said yes and played less notes than the session player on the album. I really did play what he played, and tried to make it swing harder than he did (succeeded too IMO on the last go through their single). I dont think they really dug what he did - if you listen carefully I think he sounds a bit forced (and I should know I have listened to nothing else for two weeks solid). I think its their loss, the chap they have now is a lot younger and I also suspect he's a mate of a mate who did a great job of saying yes to everything, rather than some old git with more experience and knowledge about bass who turns out to have scary good kit, and can play, and knows enough to say what will make things sound good, even if it doesn't gel with what they might think. I very much doubt the guy they have will put the work in that I am prepared to. Only because I've never met anyone else who does - with the exception of some of you lot I suspect (but you're all bonkers too). My understanding is that they've been thru about 4 bassists, and keep ending up back with the original. Its not cause no one can play - its cos they wont let anyone play how it feels right to them - bass fascists indeed - and they aren't willing to wait for a relationship to develop between the drummer and bassist. So the rhythm section keeps walking. Apparently the drummer is off soon I dont know if better things will come along or not. It will have to be what I want to do, not what someone else says I must do. Still not interested in pants pub gigs these days though, which is severely limiting! I did get asked to talk to some fellas in a funk rock outfit. Thing is I dont really do funk rock per se. But if I meet up and they say, 'play what feels good' I might just do that for a laugh.... Anyone on here get an offer from them - you have been properly forewarned

[quote name='silddx' post='525117' date='Jun 26 2009, 06:12 PM']Sorry to hear that mate. Bollocks to the 100 Club then [/quote] yeah - never mind eh. Dont have to learn a bunch of someone else's songs either...

[quote name='alexclaber' post='525114' date='Jun 26 2009, 06:11 PM']I wonder if we could have forced a [b]coup d'funk[/b] if I'd auditioned too? Alex[/quote] Mate I might have to steal that for a band name Nice!

[quote name='alexclaber' post='525106' date='Jun 26 2009, 06:07 PM']I had a horrible feeling that they'd make the wrong decision for fascist reasons. Alex[/quote] Yup. or not, depends on your point of view Either way, for fascistic reasons is probably accurate....

[quote name='steve-soar' post='525105' date='Jun 26 2009, 06:07 PM']Do you know the other guy?[/quote] Nope, but funnily enough they do.......

Hey I admit I put the phone down and said "F*** You Then!" at that point, does that count as being professional still? Felt great

Just got the call. Didnt get the gig, some other fella 'fit' better, blah blah blah blah blah, sorry, thanks for all the effort, blah blah blah, mumble mumble..... Right ho then. Kinda relieved, to be honest, he even said on the phone that they consider themselves to be fascistic about the bass - phew!