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[quote name='lowdown' post='417752' date='Feb 23 2009, 07:37 PM']I see where you are comming from, But there is a huge market for score and video support. I am involved with a partner supplying music for Corporate vids and other. And we are sent Avi and quick time movies, which are brief specific to video timings..so a must. Then you have the Games business, adverts, trailors, Idents and the list is endless. All this is now possible because of Low buget high quality home studios. Even the top guys have this kind of set up. All the top DAWS have these two features implemented, They are throwing everthing they can in now, for that extra share of the market. Cubase 5 even has in its notation window, a command where you draw in articulations and its Orchestral player will play back the articulations - neat.! That will save you ages, instead of doing that by track layering. [Thats where the score editor page is a must, no matter how good your lugs are, You still need a visual on the score for editing] Reaper is great for Putting Demo's together, or to be honest fully fledged albums. There is no problem with that side of things. I just wonder how far the guy running Reaper can go, He has not got the backing the Other majors have, so he is always playing catchup. But as we have all said... [b]A great DAW [/b]if you wanna just put Music tracks together. Garry[/quote] I absolutely agree with you on every point. I go back to my initial position that for someone looking to get into sound engineering, or putting a demo of a band together then for the price nothing compares. And for those particular needs I think it really does cover all the actual requirements. Sure notation is really cool and has some really important uses, but I haven't missed it (and I am a "must be logic" bloke from days gone by when logic didn't even do audio internally). Therefore its not absolutely necessary. As for video, well thats a different beasty again, and I'd say if you were serious about that then you would have to stump up some money at the moment, but I never said Reaper did everything you could ever want, I said it did everything you [u]need[/u] for audio. I certainly wouldn't put it past the guys at Reaper to eventually get these things in, but everyone is playing catchup with everyone else - for years cubase didn't do notation for instance, either way show me a DAW that does everything that Reaper does as well as Reaper for the money, now find me one that does everything reaper/cubase/nuendo/protools/logic blah blah blah does for even just double the money of Reaper - I think it might be tricky (although I might be wrong those guys could have shrunk their prices since I last looked). Its similar to a lot of open source stuff, people said no one could ever come up with a free office package to rival that of MS, yet Open Office is very very good, and interestingly by focusing on what most people use most of the time the developers have come up with something that a lot of people find easier to use and quicker too. At the expense of certain functions that may be key to certain people, but not required for the great unwashed. Its all cool though, as long as people are trying to do stuff like Reaper we all win out,

[quote name='lowdown' post='417555' date='Feb 23 2009, 04:07 PM']Another +1 for Reaper [ sigh...again] No Notation view, And no video import. But if you dont need them, a must for the Money, or lack of it.. Garry[/quote] Yeah I was thinking about the notation (or lack of) the other day, and to be fair its not a true requirement of a midi sequencer or a DAW. But I agree its a very nice to have. As far as video gos, then I think you are doing stuff outsidce of anything I've ever done, which is why I never thought of that - again I'd even go so far as to say not really a true requirement of a DAW. If those are the only really issues you have with it then I think its even more amazing for the money, since I find myself often thinking something is great that may only really work for me. Given the complexity of a lot of DAW/Sequencing software I tend to feel that I never really learnt all that any of it can do, too busy using just what I needed to get a track together!

Been thinking about it a little more and I'd go so far as to site the individual sounds and the way the mics are interacting as great material for anyone wanting to learn how they should go about micing drums and what they should really be looking for. Love it.

Err IMHO the worst thing about most cheap basses is the apalling set up. Having said that the SR300 I recently got with a fiend (beginner) was alright,but we tweaked it quite a bit to make ot really playable. If these are of similar build quality to a cheap Ibanez, but set up better thats great. If these get any more people into playing bass, thats great Since thats what they are aimed at why is anyone here who isnt a teenager thinking about starting out on bass dissing them? They arent aimed at you, so get over it. Top job Flea I think. And looking distinctive is not a problem for me, as long as they play well and inspire beginners then they tick all the boxes. It would be fantastic if they came in at about £300, and to be honest they need to be amazing to beat the Ibanez sr300 range at close to that price.

[quote name='dr.funk' post='415464' date='Feb 20 2009, 03:52 PM']This is the best free drum kit plugin I have found. Says on the site it compared favourably to EZ drummer in a forum blind listen. [url="http://www.bluenoise.no/mydrumset.html"]http://www.bluenoise.no/mydrumset.html[/url] The MDA collection is well worth having as are the set of effects by tweakbench which have really nice interfaces and are quite creative.[/quote] Cheers for this, been playing around with it for a little while and its exactly the type of thing I've been after for ever (ie a drummer I can sequence!) Truly excellent drum sounds nice load of ambient mics up, only thing I might have done is to mic the floor toms as well. Other than that its perfect! I reckon I could get a decent drum sound for almost any pop/funk/rock/metal/blues/reggae demo from this (anything but jazz with brushes obviously). Just by using differnt mic levels and eq and dynamics. Its brilliant!

[quote name='OldG' post='415968' date='Feb 21 2009, 08:51 AM']How about easy to use ,yet powerful - unlimited tracks /routing and VST slots..... and will see most audio file formats and DX effects. I'm talking about [url="http://reaper.fm/download.php"]Reaper[/url], an unexpiring unrestricted demo - well worth the $50 registration fee... From the Reaper forum - [url="http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=563&highlight=free+vst"]The Good Free effect Plug-in Thread[/url][/quote] +1'ed this so many times its getting boring. Listen all of you worrying about the best software to start of learning DAWs on in a windows system - its Reaper. Really , for the money (free full use trial for ever, then $50 home use I think) it blows everything away, and believe me I've used everything out there (as far as I know) at one time or other. Thing is its as good as all the rest at all but the deepest darkest stuff (that you dont need anyway normally for recording some demos) is lightweight (in terms of system power) and thoroughly excellent.

Go direct to the Chicken, do not pass go? Great right hand technique nice chords, its just good init....

Stubbing its toe?

Did you ever get these wavs up?

[quote name='EdwardHimself' post='415181' date='Feb 20 2009, 12:16 PM']hang on, are you saying you can you actually buy music stuff tax free if you're a working musician?[/quote] Course you can Mildred. Like a sandwich shop buys bread and gets the VAT back off it. You can if you are a professional musician type person claw back the tax off fuel, stage clothes (need to have proof), any and all equipment (including basses, amps, cabs, covers & racks, leads, fx, batteries, strings, notepads and pens - everything you use in a professional context), food whilst working - you need to keep all your receipts etc etc and do it all above board but yes its a legitimate profession after all.....

Thats the best compliment from the best person who could possibly give it. No wonder you're made up, any person on this site would be stoked if the same thing happened to them. Enjoy it, you clearly deserve to. Top fella bothering to tell you he thought it was a good job too, he must know how much it would mean to you after all.

See, my partner convinced me to buy my second bass, my berg cab and my MB amp. Didn't take a lot of convincing mind, but she was behind me all the way. Fantastic woman!

His playing in the Flecktones is often fantastic IMO. But he has been/will be plagued by the need to always get his thumb out and do the party piece thing. His groove stuff is brilliant though. Three Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest has some outstanding playing on it that is all about groove - highly recommended!

He's a top fella, based in Brighton. He leant me the Big One to try out, its a great cab, thats going to get better very soon (he redesigned the crossover based upon a couple of things I noticed about it - thats attention to detail!!!). When he's done that it will IMO be the lightest real gigging volume solution known to man. It sounds huge already.

love Erpland and Pungent Effulgent. Just awsome to chill out to - lights off - mesmerising. Again my partner thinks they stink so its a guilty pleasure for me too!

Still think your avatar is the most eye catching on this forum........ Oh yeah, 210s great stuff, nice rig, oooooo avatar, niiiiceee.... Sorry...

My son is dead lucky, what with the interweb and forums like this he started with a Nemesis G8 (?) practice amp - great sounding but not loud, perfect then! Now he has finally put all his savings and Xmas pressies together and has a Hartke LH500 (top performer for the original price) into a Berg HT210 (wow!) and has my old BP8 for tuning and weird and wonderful noises. What a lucky g*t I'm dead jealous when I think what I battled with for years! Thats got to be one of the best first rigs ever, and really didnt break the bank compared to what does get bought, and will outperform anything else I have ever heard for what we paid for it. Brilliant!

Crickey, memory wracking on full power (owww) Piccies - you must be joking, we used crayons when I started... Crap Carlsbro 115 combo to start with (I think) - totally underpowered though (not more than 100w IIRC, and that was some kind of printing error in the manual IMO) Moved to HH bass head (2 u sized thing - utter rubbish) into some old Carlsbro 15 cab. Moved to a Carlsbro Stingray head (I think: had a semiparametric eq) into an HH 2x15 (unbelievably heavy - still have to see an osteopath every 3 months due to an accident with it in a doorway!) Moved on to a Laney G300 stereo head into 2 Laney 410 cabs - massive improvement, I loved it very very dearly and wore it out completely in the end. Added a Crown DC300 lab amp and 2 HH 115 PA cabs for maximum clout - ridiculously heavy and big rig, incredible volume though - loved it! Added a Digitech BP8 for all things weird and wonderful. Fairly long break ensued whilst I downsized several times until eventually replacing the last bits and pieces with my current rig:- Korg DTR2000 tuner, Focusrite compounder compressor, Markbass sa450, Bergantino ae410. Which is smaller, lighter and louder (I think) than my old big rig. And sounds about a million times better too

There is a pair of SH Moons in GAK at the moment - one is a white JBass reputedly used by Larry at some point. Has a tweaked EQ in it to his tastes apparently. Had a good bash on it and holy mother of god that is one hell of a slapper :wacko::blink : Going for just over 1K for each (didnt play the other one) Just in case any of you are interested like....

Definitely meths over boiling, you cant get all the water out very quickly and that seems to weaken the inner core quicker (more string breakages as a result) it may well be to do with thermal stress more though. meths does a good job, boiling appears to bring a bit more life back but for a very short period of time IME. I have 2 sets of DR's for my 4 string and one set lives in meths to be swapped when the set on the bass goes too manky. Works a treat (be sure to give them a day to dry out if you want to be certain theres none left to spoil that finish though.

I do really mean it - get the wavs up and I'd love to have a crack at remixing it for you. Just the once mind ;o)

[quote name='slaphappygarry' post='406132' date='Feb 11 2009, 11:50 AM']Its a turkey if you start with mp3 files dude. I don't mind hosting the .wav's if you can get me them. G[/quote] He's been using garbage band so I suspect he only has mp3s at this point....

[quote name='xgsjx' post='405348' date='Feb 10 2009, 01:59 PM']I'll have a look at finding what places I can get some space to upload MP3s of files like cheddatom suggests (Reverbnation comes to mind) if anybody want's a mess with them. Cheers G[/quote] I'm always up for a bit of a remix too as it goes ;o)

I come from a long Logic background. Reaper is up there in an awful lot of ways to be honest. Pretty much everything you will really _need_ to track and mix on a PC is there. The routing is excellent, the provided Rea_blah fx are very light on resources. So no for the forseeable future I dont think you _need_ to get a full fat DAW, reaper is a huuuge leap up from Audacity.

HD24's are, for the price, the best Harddisk recorder out there. Excellent ADA conversion, extremely simple interface really neat. If you had data loss due to hd issues then my guess is the hd's in question are probably pretty old (approaching or surpassed MTBF). HD24s use old PATA drives, really old tech by todays standards, perfectly adequate for their intended use, but the drives are often old. We run two of them hooked up to a mackie 32:8 + 24:8 extension, and it works really really well. Its simple enough for a drummer to run. But he does properly understand gain structure and tracking - I suggest you take some time to read up on this stuff! If the 'engineer' tracked stuff with very low levels he's rubbish, or not got decent kit - we use a series one focusrite octopre to ensure we get no overs on drums - brilliant kit. If the engineer lost stuff he either needs to own up or if its kit issues, then he needs to sort that out pronto or it will cost him work. Garage Band is dung, anything that only runs on mp3s is completely mickey mouse and not going to get you decent results. Sorry. Reaper is excellent and as close to freeware as you get on windows. Be careful with Maximisers, they all have artifacts that can make your mix seem great at the time but in retrospect sound very over produced at best - at worst you can crush the life out of a mix completely. Loudness is not everything. Look up frequency mixing, compression techniques, use of additive vs inline fx and creating a 3d field with all the previous to add depth to your mixes. Also join here:- [url="http://homerecording.com/bbs/"]http://homerecording.com/bbs/[/url] and start learning! I've not even touched mic choice or use as possible issues, or acoustic treatment, each of which are areas with tomes written about them by cleverer cats than me. If you think bass playing is a resource hog, home recording is a whole 'nuther galaxy of pain You'll love it!!