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Plux went to university.... I get to use his room again at last!

Heil PR40 is a hell of a mic for bass, should be possible to capture a fantastic sound with one. There are some cracking mics from DPA and Schoeps that are also fab, but cost the earth, on the other hand I would heartily recommend the tiny Line Audio CM-3 as a close second for a silly cheap price (comparatively)....

You dont need a pickup to record a DB. In fact its the last thing you want to reach for. You need the following:- 1. A good sounding bass played well - cant emphasise this enough, a DB's sound is [i]all[/i] about the player's ability to get it to project, its a physical beastie, and a great player will get a huge tone from an instrument they know, a lesser player will really struggle with the same instrument! 2. A great sounding room - you arent just micing the bass if you are doing it properly, you are micing the way the bass interacts with the room. If you move the mc further from the bass you pick up a sound that is of more of the entire instrument rather than one point source on the instrument. Too close and you are close micing the instrumetn and the mic will only pick up the pat of the sound eminating from the closest part of the instrument, it will sound very artificial indeed If you move the mic too far away you get too much room mixed in. If you go further away you get so much room that you can no longer hear a significant amount o fthe direct sound from the instrumetn. This is known as [i]critical distance[/i], in a smallish room (a living room) the critical distance can be a lot closer than you think. A Cardiod mic should be no further than 1/2 the critical distance from the instrumetn at the absolute most. An omni mic should be no further than one third of the critical distance at most. Remember critical distance applies to all boundaries, so that includes the ceiling and the floor!! 3. No mic phase issues - You are using two mics, it is highly likely that you are losing bass as they are out of phase with each other. A quick test of this is to turn off the playback of each mic in turn and bring the level up to m,atch the level of both of them, if on their own they have more bass than when they are a pair then you have phase issues. The solving of this all relies on you playing whilst someone else moves mics to find the very best place in the room to capture your instrument. its not a difficult thing to do if you know how, I like to literally walk around the instrument with one ear covered and the other facing the bass, listening for the best mix of timbre, direct sound and room to give the greatest impact. I the put a mic there, right where my ear is, pointing at the instrument. Sometimes you have to tweak it a little from there still, but most often thats pretty much bang on! If on playback that mic is lacking something then I may rarely put another mic up, but in that case I tend to spot mic the part of the instrumetn which gives that par tof the sound that is missing and I am very careful to check phase, and filter out all but the 'missing' area and then mix that with the main mic as little as I can possibly get away with. Recorded well you should not need to reach for more than a touch of eq and compression in the mix IME. The AT4033a you have would certainly cover all the basses for a main mic on a cheap acoustic bass for me. I would defintely look at spending far more time on its positioning, and your playing technique to be honest. If you have to buy something then get a new really good set of strings (Thomastic Spirocores sound fantastic on my son's DB, really punchy and bold in a Big Band), they cost more than your bass, but are definitely worth it! As an aside in a really fantastic sounding room for something a little more classical I often like to use a stereo pair in the place of the single main mic so as to get a better sense of the space. In the mix I probably wouldnt spread them full width, but just having that option can really open up the 'reality' of the instrument.

I dunno. I think this guys efforts seem a tad simplistic. However I'm willing to gove this guys efforts more benefit of the doubt:- [url="http://www.tdpri.com/forum/tele-home-depot/169606-1960-jazzbass-build.html"]http://www.tdpri.com...bass-build.html[/url] But then he seems to be able to explain what he's doing better, and the result can be heard here:- [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6E7iSATY7M[/media] And it certainly sounds how he describes it in the build diary. However a much larger change to the tone is the use of the original felt mutes, which really do make it sound a lot more like a double bass:- [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwYoi9G67DU[/media] Personally I think the strings make a more overt difference to the final tone than whether the wood is quarter sawn or not or when you hit it with a mallet it goes pink or thump in a certain area of the uncut blank. And dont lets go near the possible changes caused by different electronics!

Reaper does not need jbridge.

I have gigabytes of rehearsal recordings. Being a band that jams a lot when writing they are invaluable. We just finished a new track by taking something we came up with on tge very first time we got together over a year ago, and using it as a bridge. Brilliant!

Because you are sick of the weight and the alternative sounds as good or better and weighs significantly less. IMO BF cabs don't look at all DIY, and the finish is just like that on absolutely top quality touring PA cabs which are covered in that stuff because it's so resilient on far heavier (two man lift minimum) cabs. If you haven't played with the gen 3 cabs don't comment on the tone, it's significantly more impressive than any other cab I've ever heard (specifically the Big Twin here) the only downside is it's a big cab....

I use a Zoom H4n with pair of Line Audio CM3's as well as the on board mics Granted this is a step up in "faff" from where you are going but with the device as a stereo OH pair over the drum kit and the CM3's as a very careffully placed room Mic I've repeatedly got recordings at least good enough for demos to get gigs with I think the H1 would do you fine....

[quote name='Toasted' timestamp='1381500370' post='2239937'] This is a very grown up discussion compared to normal, isn't it? [/quote] poo face...

[quote name='TenLetters' timestamp='1381494932' post='2239843'] [size=4][color=#222222][font=Arial]Si - we have a couple of new songs coming together already so will be in touch hopefully at some point in the new year if you're happy to do some more work for us [/font][/color][/size] [/quote] Absolutely!

Oh cool! Only just seen this, sorry. Had no idea that they were a fourtrack recording, just goes to show its not the kit, its the songs that count. Really enjoyed mastering the entire album, really refreshing, I hope you do loads more stuff together!

Heh, the Super Twin weighs about as much as a bag of chips, its very very light indeed. I've not personally played the new Big Baby 2, but I have spent time with its big brother the Big Twin 2, and that thing is ridiculously good. If it fit in my car (and house) I'd replace the ae410 with it. Unfortunately it doesnt

Ding, and in fact, Dong!

[quote name='Bolo' timestamp='1381315609' post='2237346'] That got annoying when he stacked all that feedback. I have beaten guitards down for pulling that sh*t! Good craftsmanship controlling all what was going on though. [/quote] That wasnt feedback That was harmonic chords swelled with the volume control into a stereo delay.

Oh balls, I'm doing a go-karting endurance race I'd love to have been there though!

Voting is closed...

IMO you can definite learn to groove.

4 detuners on the tuning keys and two on the bridge in fact.... Yes it's insane, it's also an amazing sounding instrument that takes him about ten minute to tune up before he starts a set!

Ebow on bass sounds amazing if you are a genius with it, but its insanely frustrating to control.... Of course if you are a fiftieth level dark lord of bass madness you use two at the same time:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx1RccwlF5g

I'm going to close voting tonight/tomorrow morning...

Come on people, we've only had about 8 votes, rather disappointed by the turn out to be frank. Voting ends today, if anyone gives a monkeys other than those who entered........

Right, my vote is in too....

Add fx to the track using the FX button on the track. Select ReaPitch or ReaTune depending on what you want to do (pitch shift or correct the tuning)