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I think its a mix of the mic used, the position of the mic and the hats themselves, although they dont sound too bad on the overheads. But thats micing at a distance, which is a very different thing from trying to get a mic to sound good tight on a hihat without a load of spill. Not an easy task, and if the mic tends to exacerbate some nasty frequencies in the instrument and you dont notice it whilst tracking then you are stuffed

Had an hour at this. Just got the project set up and started cutting some of the yurchh out with eq. Drums sound great to me - nasty hihat though!

Big rooms for drums are a thing of beauty, embrace the spill Nah, I've not even listened yet - they could be well tricky for all I know, I'm just trying to sound cool

Ding, and in fact, dong....

Lets not be counting any chickens just yet eh....

Still havent started myself - rush job indeed!

Err you do what makes the music sound right, some people rake (I do) som epeople dont, some people use 1 finger ( I do on crotchets sometimes), some people use 2 fingers all the time (really helps alternating octaves), some of us use three fingers mainly: I do, ring-middle-index, its great for fluidly going up strings, I rake too so descending runs can easily be blisteringly fast if I want them to be, but ironing the triplet feel out of your playing can take years! I also use just my thuumb for mellower sounding fat grooves, with palm muting for a realy nice deadened vibe, or chicken picking derivatives. Or anything else that works. Of all the people on this forum as far as I am aware URB has taken different picking techniques further than anyone else I've heard, having mastered the Garrison technique (thumb and 3 fingers) a well as all that double thumping stuff. Its like a fluid groove machine set on "blow yer damn head off" For me it just turned out that 3 fingers worked best, but I did have to sit down and work through some (a lot) of inconsistencies with the metronome to get it to work right without having to think about it at all. And going from 1 to 2 fingers you will have to do the same, remember whatever you do starting with your index finger you need to be equally adept at starting on your middle finger though!

The video above is the best way there is to store cables, every other loop twists the opposite way, net result, no twist in the cable when you straighten it back out again, which means minimal cable stress in storage and subsequent reuse and longest possible lifetime....

Right I have a copy of each of the four entrants who have PM'ed me so far. I'm going to have ot pull my finger out this week and get mine done!!!

Good work with the links so far chaps, please don't take any down I haven't had a chance to download any yet onto my main machine I'll upload from work, the connection there makes a dalek look slow.....

Got a mix in already chaps! Get to it all of you

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1362913854' post='2006037'] The click track is just like any other tool or aid. Sometimes you need it and sometimes you don't. To say that using a click track is always bad is as stupid as saying that you have to use one all the time. [/quote] +1 If players can really play 'around' the click to make a groove thats immense, and yet stays on the money for pulse then thats an absolute winner fo rdance music and funk as well as rock and pop. Of course if your players cant make the magic happen to click you find out real quick, and then its all a little ghastly anyway usually, click or no click, IME of tracking bands. There is only so much slop that I want in a final production, I dont mind some in some genres but I do let the timekeeping and pitchkeeping fascist out of the box when a band strays into sounding p*** poor, after all they want a good sounding product and out of time and pitchy work sounds dead amateur these days....

OK so the official March competition thread is now open here:- http://basschat.co.uk/topic/202023-march-mix-competition/ When you have finished your mix, PM me a link to it. Feel free to discuss your progress in the main thread as much as you like, but we wont hear your work until you are finished. I wont vote, but I will enter (only way to be fair since I may be able to tell whose is whose after all! Good luck one and all!

Right this is the 'official' topic of the March mix competition. We are tasked with producing the best mix we can of Creepjoint's (Cheddatom's band - a big thank you to them all) track Sapere Aude off their second album. Download the stems here:- [url="http://creepjoint.co.uk/sapereaudestems.zip"]http://creepjoint.co...reaudestems.zip[/url] [color=#ff0000][size=5][b]We are going to attempt a blind vote this time chaps so [u]the entrants must not post a link to their final mix in the topic[/u]![/b][/size][/color] [b]Instead upload your final mix wav somewhere (soundcloud, box.net, dropbox.com, wherever) with it set to private and downloadable, [u]then PM me the link[/u].[/b] I will gather all the mixes, rename them to something arbitrary (there may well be an A.wav, B.wav and a C.wav if I'm feeling very very inventive) upload them to a freshly prepared soundcloud account and then open up the poll pointing it to said account. For the sake of fairness I wont vote, but I will put in an entry. Once the poll closes I will disclose which mix was whose. [i]NOTE if you do put a link to your mix in the topic you are inadvertantly disqualifying yourself since you will lose anonymity.[/i] Enjoy, and best of luck to you all! [size=5][b]The mixes are in![/b] [b]Your efforts can all be found here:- [size=6][url="https://soundcloud.com/bc-mix-competitions/sets/bc-march-mix-competition"]https://soundcloud.c...mix-competition[/url][/size][/b][/size] NOTE this is still a MIX competition, some of these mixes would appear to have run into some heavy-ish limiting for level, feel free to turn your headphones/amp/laptop up and down and keep the levels equivalent to appreciate the mixes equally. Good luck one and all! [b]The results stand as follows:-[/b][list=1] [*][b]Sapere Aude - mix A (1 votes [7.14%])[/b] [*][b]Sapere Aude - mix B (5 votes [35.71%])[/b] [*][b]Sapere Aude - mix C (0 votes [0.00%])[/b] [*][b]Sapere Aude - mix D (3 votes [21.43%])[/b] [*][b]Sapere Aude - mix E (4 votes [28.57%])[/b] [*][b]Sapere Aude - mix F (0 votes [0.00%])[/b] [*][b]Sapere Aude - mix G (0 votes [0.00%])[/b] [*][b]Sapere Aude - mix H (1 votes [7.14%])[/b] [/list] Ok so I can reveal now that the mixes were:- Mix A was skol303 [b]Mix B was moonbass[/b] (well done, top mix good win) Mix C was lurksalot Mix D was me (as promised I havent voted, and I dont know that I would have voted for mine this time, thats for sure!) Mix E was vasdim (excellent job as well sir!) Mix F was Butlerk02 Mix G was oldG Mix H was twigman Well done all of you!

Steinberg UR824 is the best bang for the buck at the moment....

Remember to PM me the link!!!

Not a problem chap, same for everyone. When I get a chance (over the weekend) I will set up the official March thread with the new blind listening scheme rules:- [color=#ff0000][size=5]** NO ONE POST A LINK TO THEIR MIX IN ANY THREAD: PM ME WITH THEM INSTEAD **[/size][/color]

I would bet good monet that you have too much bass and too little low mid. I used to have similar issues years ago the solution was to have some lo mid yo punch the slap parts through and fatten up the fingerstyle. Works a treat but you have to lose the deep bass a bit or it will be muddy.... Oh and heavier strings (45 to 130 on my 5 string) can help too....

Yup the more diverse the better as far as I'm concerned. I predict the pattern of tough to get right drums will be an ongoing concern in pretty much everything though....

Rocki and roll!

Cant wait for the country [b]and [/b]western month

Yes but you can get used to and in fact love having enough mids in your sound for clarity in the mix on stage. Its a real pain in the backside to begin with, it all sounds a bit wrong, and suddenly the bass is just screamingly loud in the mix and every nuanced error is really obvious. Persevere, because when you get over this you find yourself playing better precisely because you can now hear those nuances. Everyone at a gig will thank you for it.....

[quote name='MiltyG565' timestamp='1362647679' post='2002535'] If money was no object, i would go all out on the recording gear. And also pay somebody to come and teach me how to use it all But as it stands, i'll just stick to the home hobbyist equipment for now. [/quote] Heh if money were not object I'd have myself my own [url="http://www.miraverse.com/"]Manifold Studios[/url] And I'd be officially the happiest man alive

Love RME myself, best drivers bar none at any price. USB so equally useful Mac or PC (and as fast or faster than Firewire since RME roll their own USB chipset too). Stunning kit, huge persoanl favourite....

I've seen a couple of bands off BC, Kit Richardson (with Monsieur Nige on the bass guitar looking dapper as hell behind his shiny chrome bangstick) who both times I saw them were superb, and the phangtastic Dick Venom with Mr BigRedX on bass, who were absolutely awesome too, more energy than a thermite reaction. I'd get out and seee more bands if I could, but I'm a terribly old middle aged fart and am constantly busy or knackered, which is a rubbish excuse but its all I've got. I would love to see a few more people find the time to listen and comment on the mix competition, and offer up their tracked stems for [s]butchery[/s] mixing by us, but this isnt wannabesoundengineerchat after all and some people may (mistakenly) feel they arent really qualified to comment so much. The Bass Bashes have been great fun (I've been to plenty now) lovely people, lovely gear (some idiot banging on about compressors all the time though) and not too much slapping at all that I've noticed....