LukeFRC

If it's the noise from lights being picked up by stomp is it the power or the signal ground I need to try and sort?

no daisy chaining- I'll go and try again and unplug things but when I had it before it was just stomp and colourbox and Cioks being used. (before my pedal phase started)

just tested the outputs of the Cioks DC7 with my multimeter - they are isolated from one another

in-between HX and colourbox? I'm guessing it's some kind of 1:1 transformer in there

No - because it doesn’t have ground lift! Neither does the stomp - other people have had this issue it seems https://line6.com/support/topic/60123-ground-loop-hum-from-a-pa-system/ balls

Help I have a colourbox that I love, and had a HX stomp and was getting noise from the both. so sold the stomp. Two years on I rebuy a HX stomp.... .... and the first time I take it to church to play and it sounds great... Until the main lights in the room go on (LED spotlights) and it goes Buzz really loudly - like about 1/3 of the signal of the bass. This happens even when the bass is muted. It seems to be a combination of the venue lights, the HX stomp and the colourbox just don't work together... but why? Isolated power supplies, Lights on a different mains ring from switchboard Turn hx off, no buzz or turn Colourbox off and use it as a passive DI, no buzz turn lights off, no buzz - but apparently not an acceptable solution! What's going on here and how do I avoid it? I made a diagram of things I've tried so far...

can the Ashville pattern into fuzz/envelope get close?

If you put two heliospheres on a path each (one short, one long) each followed by random chorus and then combine into a long dynamic plate reverb with some modulation it gets pretty close to some of the settings of an eventide black hole reverb! now it probably needs eq too so it’s going to max out the blocks on my hx stomp but interesting exploring

Was that a mocha 78 with an epoxy 77 preamp in it? Asking for a friend

Ah. As you were, I can calm down

what colour? Reason being there was a 77-78 stingray which is my one that got away....

With a time dimension too- so that it models that eq curve over time. a small bit of time for a cab sim, a big bit for a reverb

I didn't know they had a bass player on the Mary Rose!

in my head a lot of digital effects have a kinda sound signature - which goes from raw harsh organicness (Source Audio) through to Slick smooth polished studio type sounds (Eventide) - my inexpert opinion having not played as much gear as other folk on the thread, but for bass, esp live, the polished sound doesn't work as well as rawer sounds. Obviously that's not always the case, music style varies, what you're running before it matters, and where it is in the chain too... This sounds like the polished end of things.

+1 One of the best bits of advice for digital gear someone gave me was for an H9, ignore every preset, start with 2-3 of your own and ignore the rest. Just think about 1 thing. It makes you focus on making the single thing you need, and then you can expand it later if you need. Before I did that I was trying to make use of everything and focusing on the technology rather than my/the musics needs that the technology would help me do

Why a tiny little fiddly thing that needs expensive parts? well this is it compared to a 1590a size pedal - slightly wider - untill you plug something in and here is it compared to a 125b side - think standard size for a walrus pedal so it can take up way less space than a larger pedal. I think if they had side jacks that clashed you could fit two of these in the space of a 1590b MXR size enclosure. That’s with EBS Gold cables too! the downside is fiddlyness more expensive parts and probably not being able to use just any patch lead!! That’s EBS gold cables and a Cioks power cable.

So as well as the one I’ve already shown… this happened

Nice

from the Neve schematic or Broughton inspired?

so a few years ago I just had a HX stomp, sold it and went into the individual pedals world, finding out what suits, what doesn't ... and then maybe admitting some kind of defeat by buying a HX stomp again, but finding out I've learned so much along the process that I'm using it completely differently .... So big changes with and the plan is not to fiddle too much bar a few wee things I need to sort ... it also is I think the first time I've spent ages working out a layout that works well for ergonomically. Complete overkill too - but fun. And sometimes thats the point. Signal chain. Sonic Research - Turbo Tuner - Christmas present from my daughters fancier than I need, but does let me do fairly good setups so there's that. The iron man - My version of the SS/BS mini - it's fantastic clear sounding JFet drive. It's my kind of sound. It has a C1M pot for bass so a bit more low end than the schematic you see online, and the J201 ldss values you would use in a Barbershop... Valeton - OC-10 - It's a tiny OC2 clone, with the mod of disconnecting the -2 portion for more gain. It sounds like a smooth OC2 and tracks down to low D. The first octave I've tried that made me 'get' octaves. Broughton Omnicomp - You can keep your cali76's and whatever... my thing was always going to be optical compression, and this is one of the best. (IMO, @jimbobothy may disagree... ) It sounds better than good and just works. Normally always on. HX Stomp - I caved and went back. I had had a L4 preamp doing amp sounds in analogue world - but the bottom end was a bit uncontrolled. This gives me control. And scratches the itch of "ooh but I'ld like to try a rat with a clean blend and a flanger on the clean"or whatever. Set to change patches on the H9 via midi if I want and accepts Expression CC and tap tempo. LOOP 1.1 - Aoteaora Intermodulator - my tiny version of a prunes and custard - it's amazing. Quite often with distortions I find they take over your sound in a big fuzzy or velcoy mess, this wave folder is so touch responsive and just sounds musical and synth. I need to finish the others I'm making , sorry @lee650, this made it on my board before I posted you yours! You can see why I kinda needed a small pedal! I'm not allowed a bigger board. It was going to be before the stomp - till I realised the fun of sticking tremolo into it. LOOP 1.2 - PastFX PF-101 a moog MF101 clone. Turns out I like a moogerfooger envelope way more than a mutron style. And I like this, like the Aoteaora it feels musical to me, and usable in subtle ways. LOOP 2.1 - Providence Anadime Bass Chorus - I've got a few digital versions for chorus here, both sound good. None touch the Anadime. Bought off @admiralchew I think so I could shoot it out against the Tech21 bass boost chorus. There was only one winner - again sweet and musical sounding. LOOP 2.2 - Eventide H9 - It does a lot, the things it does well it does very well, and interfaces with the HX better than it did on it's own. The hot switch will be in an enclosure bottom right once I get around to it. Theres a wee home made patchbay underneath to patch out the expression and hotswitch. JHS colourbox v2 - Always on and the reason I ended up trying the individual pedals thing, sound great, transformer sound, Janek, @krispn and I can't all be wrong right? I use it as a low gain warm DI thing. It does fuzzy, which is normally pretty rubbish but can be nice clipping the tops of signal. The HPF is set a bit high for bass which means it gets a lot of Talkbass hate from the kinda folk who judge pedals based on printed specs, but dont let it put you off, but I'm probably never going to use Metal guitar amps on the stomp either but that doesn't mean it isn't a good tool for bass players... Now to learn to use this all together. At the moment I'm enjoying the ease of getting sounds -the stuff that's easier analogue is analogue, and the control is digital - it seems a simpler workflow. Challenge is to not change it again. Bar the hot switch and... I think the HX needs more current. So either a Cioks crux or 4 thingy or I daisy chain more other the individual pedals together.

Nice! Your own circuit design?

@BabyBlueSound the way you would do it is 9mm pots, and smd parts - I think you could have 3 across in one row - whether it’s worth it is another question!! I think there possibly more pcb space to be won if you used relay bypass (facing up) and a smaller momentary fs (but that’s more complex than I wanted to try with the above)