LukeFRC

it was meant to be!

Mesa used to use west side and had similarly massive mark ups

And his price if he changes the strings on them all is higher than most of us!

Come on Sultan - where are you?

build Number 1 I used one of stevies' kits - it's great. I love it - it lets me hook up to my HX stomp and use it as a platform for amp and cab sims.... build number two I had some spare ply, I found out my saw wasn't very accurate and straight and there's a pile of bits sat in the garage waiting to be built. Need to chat to Stevie and get his recommendations for the sub. I don't need two cabs as the one will be good enough for what I do - but having two cabs is something I kinda want and building it myself gives me the opportunity to do that at a relatively low price.

I forgot to say that that's probably the most important aspect.

Moollon's thing is 'authentic sounding' and metalwork made with older alloys - I think the luthier thinks a 1 piece flat sawn with a single action truss rod sounds more like a vintage bass who knows how much difference it makes. I'm guessing between a multi laminate neck with dual action and multiple carbon rods and a 1 piece flat sawn with a single action truss rod you could hear a difference... the smaller changes I've no idea!

I've got the parts to build a second... @stevie was suggesting a horn-less sub (which makes it cheaper) ... I need to get on that project actually!

you building one?

I was about to say the same thing!

single action truss rod (as opposed to dual action) is a selling point if you're buying a Moollon....

In the OP

Because the product essentially hasn’t changed. A US Fender Precision Or Jazz, A musicman stingray and a USA G&L L1000 are all roughly similar “standard” models of the brand of broadly similar To produce instruments all designed by the same fella so if 20 years back a USA was 80% of the price of a Stingray at 100% (£800 and £1000) Andertons are selling the equivalent “American Proffessional 2” series for about £1600 - so the price has doubled in the last twenty years - musicman, up to last year, Seems to be, roughly double at £2000-2100 ish so a jump to £3000 in one year has to have you asking what the craic is. (For completion G&L CLS series L2000 is £1600) so of course it makes sense to compare prices- the one caveat is that maybe Fender are sticking their prices up 40% as well and we just don’t know it yet!

that is insane. You could buy a very nice bass from Overwater, ACG or someone like that for £3k. ( @AndyTravis could afford a wee bit under half a Wal for that)

One of the the best things about Basschat is being able to ask folk "you had one of these, what did you think?"

I think that's what people do... they just swap their two basses at regular intervals.

can I say ta for the folk putting the description in as well - there's a load of stuff I've been "I wouldn't mind one of them" and someone saying "had one, it was shite" helps save me money!!

going to take you a while to put a comment beside each one isn't it?!

Stagg P bass - borrowed, came to me in bits from someones CDT project at school. Had to learn how to put it together and set it up before I could learn to play it Status Shark 2 Proactive - found at the back of a shop in colchester, new - neck like a banana and bits going rusty... what a first bass though. Kinda polite sounding Fender Precision Japan PB57-US - Formed a band. needed a 'proper' bass. It was lovely, fitted a annodized scratch plate. Warwick Streamer Stage 1 (1991) Blue - Joined bass chat. realised someone would pay me money for my Status... sold it and convinced @warwickhunt to sell me his blue streamer. Hated the sound! Warwick Streamer Stage 1 (1991) Natural- found locally for sale, weighed less than the blue one and sounded better - was my main bass really for years. Fender JV Squier Series Precision '57ri - One of the ones that is super rare. Amazing bass. Had a SD-PB1 pickup in it - sounded great. Tracked down an original pickup - didn't sound as good. Currently residing with @sdbrown8177 Valenti No.42 - bought from @richardd kept for a month, sold to @funkyspuke - I didn't like the sharp corners on the body and the ugly typeface on the headstock- and I didn't like Jazz basses. I learned after this that a new bass needed at least 6 months before you sold it on. Fender USA 70's RI FSR in Lake Placid blue - bought a few weeks after the Valenti from @AndyTravis - lovely thing proved I didn't like jazz basses. Went to Barcelona Cimar model 1905 (1975) - - Found for £40 in a secondhand shop off Byres Road. Fixed it up with the help of @Bassassin - one of the most fun things to play ever. Unfortunately bought it to do up and sell to a really good friend. He won't sell it back Peavey T40 - Took 4 trains and a bus to a random suburb of Paisley to collect it. Almost lost my arm on the way back. Weighed about double my main Streamer did. Once you had picked it up it was quite fun to play live. But far too heavy. Cant remember who it went to, probably a black hole. Kramner P JJ thing - Bought on here as it had an original JV P pup on it. The seller didn't want to sell me the pup for £100 but 6 months later sold me the whole bass for £120 or something. Kept the pickup sold the bass...It wasn't very nice Aria RSB fretless oddity - Bought off here, old thing, defretted and with some crazy 80's pickups in it- sounded great in the hands of the guy who I sold it too! Self build green Stingray thing. - Body off a Vox standard, and some neck I found. Don't use Ronseal Dimondhard floor varnish in the place of Epoxy on the neck.... it's too hard to sand! Horrid thing really Self build Pink Stingray thing - attempt 2 someone built a bass on a bass building course at uni. I made it look like a stingray and refinished it pink. Heavy and didn't play nicely. Self build Black blue stingray thing - attempt 3 - built the body myself from a lump of ash, HH set up giving me P ray and jazz style tones, MM Sub neck. Was nice but not nice enough to play. By the time I had finished it probably cost me as much as just buying a secondhand stingray. Lesson learned. Vision Matsumoku Japanese oddity - it was black - that's all I can remember Yamaha BB300 (Japan) - tricked up a trade along with the Squeir jazz below. Was the nicer of the two. Sold it stupidly Squier Jazz bass Japan '92ish- Not as nice as the BB300. Stripped the body... possibly wood, possibly something else, bought a new body sprayed tomato soup red with graffiti paint. Nice but I don't like Jazzes remembe? Warwick Thumb bass (1985) - You know your long term GAS bass that you've wanted since you started playing? Yep - this was it. Phenomenal.Beautiful. Except it turns out it spent a couple of years not being played. Made an amazing racket when it was. Yamaha BB1200 (1977) - - Really nice early one. Liked everything about it apart from the sound. G&L L1000 (1982) - From @gareth Replaced the BB1200 - much more my thing, and it was green. They are brilliant. Very hot output. Sold to pick up a Precision bass. (still not bought) Sadowsky Metro Will Lee - Traded with Warwickhunt for the Thumb bass plus I think he wanted about 3 extra cases. The best bass I've owned by a long way. Almost impossible to get a bad sound from it. Just beautiful sounding. Only traded cos a Sadowsky is easier to sell than a vintage Warwick ... I got it home and "I could sell all my basses but this one" wasn't exaggerating! Since getting it the old No.1 streamer and L1000 were sold as they weren't getting played. ❤️ Lakland 55-94 Classic (5 string from 1999) - Picked up locally because it was red and at a nice price. 5 strings are ok?! Pretty good bass, really really fat low mids, it sounds louder than the Sadowsky even when it's not if you know what I mean.Jurys still out on it a bit but just survived the cull of 2020

A bass comes into Cash Converters - they stick it on their website and see if it sells without them doing extra work. Obviously works as you bought it! The moment you start cleaning or changing strings you're going to come into a few issues... what do you clean it with, who cleans it and also do you have anyone qualified to change strings on all guitars and basses that come in and do a half decent setup? If you get a bass that's a mess and dirty with old strings, but it plays and it's working why would you risk not being able to set it up properly, or one of your staff breaking a truss rod - or even just finding undisclosed damage or something? Easier to stick it up on the website and if someone wants it they will buy it, if they don't want it GAK, Andertons, PMT et al will provide clean instruments with new strings...

Gibson x 80 flea bass x 20 ...

I think @Doctor J brought his JPEG guns to a knife fight

yeah - it seems to be a fairly big europewide company and I emailed them asking if Brexit would mean any more fees or anything. Apparently not, and they held on from sending it for a couple of weeks so to avoid any border craziness. I'll report back where it is - UPS currently have it in transit in Poland and say it's due on Friday