LukeFRC

I had a BB, sold it - now have another. They are great basses that don't seem to have much secondhand value - so while assessing the "trade in value" of your BB realise that the real world value is probably 4 or 5 times that...

oh - you either read that and acted on it very quickly or two minds think alike

stick up a wanted post- it will get some preamps out in the open...

[quote name='LawrenceH' timestamp='1388362854' post='2321314'] I'm not sure this is the thread for this but I'd happily discuss it more over PM. As with the tools, there is a price differential with drivers between the US and the UK that makes the Eminence more attractive over there than they are here, in my opinion. [/quote] I'ld be interested in hearing your driver wisdom too.... (edit- but not in this thread about Bill's designs obviously) I've been looking at some eminence based designs and wondering if there are better drivers for the cost this side of the pond...

[quote name='0175westwood29' timestamp='1388351347' post='2321172'] dnt get me wrong i love pedals but ive paid probs like £1000 without including the bass to get to where i am kinda dnt want a £80 di box like a sansamp. would be up for trying the emulated cab, to see if it helped but id run into it with a di not inbetween cab and speaker. not meaning to sound angry or rude btw. [/quote] and I'm not wanting to be rude.... but you run the whole thing through a £5 cable... it's not about the money.... want to improve your bands sound - spend £2.50 a gig and buy the soundguy a coffee for the soundcheck....

[quote name='Monckyman' timestamp='1388329334' post='2320788'] This is IMO just another "I don't trust the engineer with my finely crafted delicate bass tone.man" Unless you have your own engineer with whom you can explore bass tones and their context, ie your band, you are going to have to trust the house engineer until you do. You can help out buy [b]providing a good di tone, for example a sansamp or similar[/b] with your tone set up already on it, rather than rely on the houses ancient behringer d.is,or take your feed from your head post EQ ( not something I'd recommend as the EQ you use for your speaker cab will almost certainly not suit the P.A requirements). If you really want a mic, ask for a mic, but dont be surprised if you don't get it, as unless you have a very specific cab tone (yes of course you have don't you?) it will be widely regarded as a luxury by hard pressed engineers. Pre mixing a mic and a DI into a cheap noisy behringer £40 mixer completely defeats the point of trying to get a better tone to the P.A. All IMO of course. [/quote] actually a really good idea there - forget what I said. If I were you I would do that. I'm not you mind! In terms of fitting a bass sound into a wall of guitars... for clarity I would go DI every time over a mic ed cab. And it will open up ideas for you... split your signal, blend in the low end clean or overdriven with the fuzz sound ontop, or whatever you want - you can create monster tones and know that the PA will be able to make it sound awesome - and fit into the mix in a way your amp and cab never could. the pedal you're using isn't a hard build on vero, make 10 of them for the price of a decent microphone to mic your cab.... that's my 2p

someone I know in wakefield is selling the little 60 watt EBS combo if that's of interest can get you his details? (he's not on bass chat so hope not breaking rules here)

[quote name='andydye' timestamp='1387913019' post='2317203'] I've decided to sell a load of gear and raise the budget to allow me to buy the orange rig! [/quote] not tempted by garath's Trace V6?

[quote name='0175westwood29' timestamp='1388257242' post='2320123'] i did see something about a grounding issue with this as using this with a class d amp like my orange? it was mentioned earlier in the thread, something about speaker outs not being earthed? andy [/quote] yeah someone said that.... ground not being true ground on a switch mode power supply.... makes sense I guess. but for what you want you could just use it in the effects loop, DI to desk, link to the return.... the "tone" of your amp will be in the preamp so no need to capture the power amp side

looks genuine, replacement scratchplate though....

looks great! Wee thing I found... obv. warwicks use oil finish which you then wax... well I used to use beeswax.... really sticky after a while... bought a tin of briwax a few months back.... works great and a harder surface too. There are other blended waxes about that would probably be as good/better. Oh and interesting fact... Diet Coke is better for cleaning metal than normal coke.

I'll start by saying I'm not sure how big venues you are playing here.... also in my exp the sound guy is either going to want a DI signal straight or if he/she does mic your cab they will want to use their mic and be able to control the balance of the two signals... so say you do mic up your amp with a SM57, your amp's going to need to be loud enough that the mic doesn't pick up any drums.... but quiet enough that your stage volume, both individually and as a band isn't too loud... a tightrope.... When I was talking about Eq I didn't mean the hand/bass/pedals/amp side of it - you know what you're doing there.... what I meant is that your speaker cab will be adding it's own Eq to the sound. For instance something fancy like a barefaced Big baby will have quite a flat response and lots of high and low end, a bit like a PA speaker, a Ampeg 810 fridge will have a smooth roll off of the low end but it won't go as low or as high, my current cab has a massive punchy 6dB peak at about 100Hz that makes it punch and kick like a mule..... your speaker cab will have it's own sound - this is what the difference is between your DI signal and what you're hearing.... that's the problem that IMO IME you would be best trying to solve with a simple solution.

[quote name='LawrenceH' timestamp='1388153853' post='2318930'] I have been critical but I've tried to be balanced - the Jacks I built were very good for a certain type of electric bass sound with excellent low-mid clarity, but unusable for PA IMO regardless of EQ, with piezo option at least. One thing worth bearing in mind when sizing up the BFM designs as a novice is that the build prices just don't translate to the UK, unfortunately (same applies to any DIY design). Especially true if buying tools - the cheap stuff you get here really is unusably awful, but in the US the equivalent price range seems to be much more acceptable quality and their pro stuff is less than half the price it is here. I had a lot of fun with demonically possessed circular saws, in particular... [/quote] useful info (the tool info )

most mixers will give a balanced line out....which is more or less the same as a DI out... In my opinion you're going about this wrong way.... a 57 in front of your cab would work kinda... but would be harder to mix, a pain for the stage volumes, and therefore give the sound guy less control over the sound (i.e. the band sound, not your sound) - the ideal from FOH sound is no amp sound/stage sound, and your mix via IEM and the only audible sound being the FOH. the monitor mix is a compromise and so is the amp sounds... guitar amps are a pain as they are so directional and most guitarists seem to have way too big ones for what you need. (Micing up a [i]good[/i] 5w amp isn't a bad idea btw....) So if I were your sound guy I would possibly think micing up your cab wasn't the best idea.... So lets look again at the problem you have.... you have the mesa pedal into the orange amp.... and DI'ed the fuzz sound doesn't sound right in the PA... So the sound you have comes from your bass.... into your pedal.... and into your amps preamp.... and out to DI or out to the cab.... so the pedal, preamp and bass sounds are getting to the desk.... but - what's the difference between your cab sound and the PA sound? My guess... as it's fuzz... there's way more high end in the PA - whereas your 410 is rolling off way earlier - making a fat fuzz and fizz. The easy way would be to work with the PA guy to take the top end off your signal (which shouldn't be a problem), and make sure he's not scooping the mids... otherwise some way of Eqing the signal to roll off the top end that goes to the PA would work...

[quote name='whynot' timestamp='1387745480' post='2315199'] Absolutely loving the Tecamp Black Jag. Used last night as backline with a Schroeder 1212L. My trousers were flapping a little. This amp covers everything I want in tone. Below is with matching M212 but not had a chance to gig both together yet. [/quote] agh you got it in the end! good stuff!

[quote name='Bill Fitzmaurice' timestamp='1387828778' post='2316276'] If you have at least a 5 band EQ then you have enough control for a horn loaded cab. It might not be for you with less than that. I use a Superfly now, before it I had a Hartke 3500, both have all the adjustability I need. PA is a lot more fussy, that's where a 31 band with auto RTA is almost indespensible. [/quote] cheers for the reply Bill I've only got 4 bands, and not swept.

or this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pNBlhCNjsc

wahhaay! enjoy it!

thanks for help Phil and Balcro!

[quote name='Bill Fitzmaurice' timestamp='1387823076' post='2316160'] Read this: [url="http://www.avsforum.com/t/1353217/speaker-shootout"]http://www.avsforum....peaker-shootout[/url] Or the first page, anyway. The DR200 and DR250 are my designs, fully horn loaded, not just the tweeters. True, EQ is an absolute necessity, but that's true of all speakers, let alone high sensitivity pro-sound horns, because there are no rooms with flat response. Not that I recommend pro-sound PA cabs for home stereo/theater, this guys system is overkill to the nth degree. But there's no such thing as horn 'honk' with a well designed horn, be it a tweeter or a subwoofer. There are a lot of poorly done horns, though, so the notion is understandable. [/quote] Bill you actually hit on a question I've been wondering about... So compare an SPL chart from a bass reflex cab, say your very own Simplexx (the 12 bass/key cab 2512 woofer and apt80 tweeter) line to a horn loaded speaker, I'll use your Jack 12 with the same speaker as an example... now this is me the simpleton speaking here.... with a bass amp into the Simplexx I could plug it in and have a reasonable idea on how it will work and what the eq will do.... with the jack... how do you in your exp. eq the horn... just I'm not sure that my bass amp would be flexible enough to eq in the right places, I guess ideally you use a power amp with inbuilt DSP and just plug a preamp into that... I understand that practically the horn design is better and more efficient etc... but how practically do you make it work? Or in the real world once you stick the cab in a room does it make no difference? Edit: it wouldn't let me link to the charts on your forum.... simplexx here .... http://billfitzmaurice.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=20963 jack here ... http://billfitzmaurice.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=8778

As a wee update... the clarity of the Warwick Hellborg preamp handles the richness of the ACG preamp...

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1387736965' post='2315080'] Less than ideal choice of screw colour there, imo... Other than that, I'd love to try 'em out. Are they heavy ('cos I'm old and decrepit... )..? [/quote] right... you... you're going to be visited by 3 ghosts this christmas! The Ghost of Barefaced are good/bad, the Ghost of Leo got it right first time and the ghost of why buy a fodera when you can buy a squier. And it will last all christmas- on repeat, ad infintium