LukeFRC

apart from Bravewood... and maybe Wes Steed's Herbie Hancock bass he made they don't look real do they? Up close Nash's look awful IMO. I don't mind it though but would much much rather buy some idiocentric secondhand bass where all the dings tell a story. I like well played basses me, I've bought a few basses off here and then sold them quite quickly as I feel too precious about a almost imaculate finish. I have a JV squier that lives in a case in a cupboard whereas my jazz and wick get played loads cos they're already well played enough to not have to worry about a finish too much. The Warwick has 22 years of play polishing the wood whereas the Jazz I finished myself so it's not perfect.

[quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1373405796' post='2137337'] None of the above :-D No giving the game away, Mr. Hunt...! [/quote] Something Warwickhunt's knocked up at work over lunch breaks

behringer, but with a custom grill on them natch

warwick infinity????/!

sounds like it came out around 2002... just after the white stripes went big and yeah yeah yeahs.

[quote name='walbassist' timestamp='1373069871' post='2133543'] A mate of mine has one of the very first Squier P basses brought into the UK, complete with Fender spaghetti logo and the smaller Squier series logo in black on the end of the headstock. It's an amazing bass in every way, beautifully put together and tone to die for. If this is half as good as that bass, then it's a good 'un! [/quote] I've one of them too. Great basses! (even if my one currently doesn't get played ) your one looks great too tredders! def looks the part how does it compare to your '73?

you know that the pickups are in different places?

everyone copies fender... so they got their own back by making their very own... burns?

ooofff heavy!

[quote name='owen' timestamp='1372964590' post='2132278'] Did I mention the weight? [/quote] you did, but not how much it was, how heavy is it?

I think there are a number of things here.... Would I be happy without an amp? Just through the PA? Yes given a good foldback monitor (see the thread on this in the amp section about using PA gear instead/as an amp) - I would quite happily just plug straight into a DI box, my basses, and my playing, is good enough that that works for me. In some cases it is easier than having your own amp and you can get a better onstage and FOH mix. Would I use a modeling amp? No not in a million years! I've tried and I found.... it wasn't great at adjusting on the fly, and every one i've tried has had an effect seeming to compress my tone and dynamics in a very non natural and musical way. In the same way I've played live with our drummer using a top-of-the-range very very nice electronic drum kit- sounded immense from the FOH - but to play along with their seems to be so much compression going on.... you loose something. So I don't like the modeling stuff I've tried.... they also confuse me... cos I don't get why anyone would... well if I were wanting to go that route I really don't know why I wouldn't buy an audio interface... cos I'm pretty sure my macbook can act as better audio processor, with more options at hand and easily editable, than pretty much anything line 6 make.... or if I were going the other way, analogue effects/preamp into a DI would give many of the same effects - with the bonus that you could build them yourself.... I think also having worked PA a fair bit- if the POD mixes that sound good with clinical headphones how do you know they won't turn out to have massive variations between patches when played through the idiocyncracies of a live PA and specific rooms? It's not going to behave in the same way. One patch sounds great, next song switch to a patch where the preset EQ on your POD, plus the EQ on the desk, plus the resonant freq. of the room, plus the speakers built in Eq..... and what does the PA guy have to change your FOH eq every time you change a patch?

[quote name='LawrenceH' timestamp='1372942975' post='2131911'] This is the crux of it really, does your particular sound require even dispersion above 1k or so? Plus, do the players who have their cabs below their waists realise how much they can be blasting a beam of treble death across a section of the audience to get it sounding right 30 degrees off axis, where their ears are? I am really interested in knowing more about which frequencies different players prioritise in the way they hear their sound, I am convinced it's really variable. [/quote] the frequencies they prioritise that they want for a tone, or the frequencies the want to hear their sound? I've found that sometimes they are different things, what I tend to need to hear in order to play (in loud/busy mix) is a fair bit higher than I would nessesrally want/need for a bass tone (from FOH point of view)

er ok.... don't know what went on there.... So in my head.... for a full Hi Fi type sound the Berg IP series would possibly be the place to look (if you could find one) as a bass specific powered speaker. After that you have two options... -PA full range speaker, like the HK DART that I've used. But the compromise is not being designed for low frequencies (as in PA these would be provided by subs) or -High end full range Bass Guitar cab, like Acme, Accugroove or Barefaced, which will give you the low end the PA stuff may lack, but won't have the multiband compression or active crossovers that the PA stuff does. The Berg IP range, theoretically had both! (lucky owen)

I think it's kinda still on the original topic Oh and alex.... they had a couple of your cabs, not just the midget - I think it might have been a 2x12 rather than a big one though. The midget was the most impressive for me as it was tiny yet sounded great. Both were really rather good.

[quote name='alexclaber' timestamp='1372876963' post='2131102'] I'd be very happy using a big expensive active PA cab for bass. The Big Series cabs are simply a way of getting that sound in a package that you can bothered to haul to gigs on your own and that works well with most heads so you aren't restricted to outboard/rack preamps or carrying a duplicate power stage which you can't use. I've yet to come across any PA cabs of comparable size and weight which can compete at producing uncompressed high SPL tone and bottom but if there are any I'd like to check them out! [/quote] Hey Alex Chris at Alpher bass let me try out some of your cabs - they were awesome - some of the nicest cabs I've heard. The midget was ridiculous! (in a good way). If I were going to buy a new cab I know where I would be going! I guess people are to a certain extent set in their ways and while to me a (good) powered cab with clever power management and then stick a nice preamp infront of it- But I guess that's going to be unorthodox to a large amount of folk who are used to the ampeg/markbass/ashdown head and a passive cab. (plus I guess a much bigger engineering job to design)

[quote name='hamfist' timestamp='1372838003' post='2130419'] Second .... bass cabs all still seem to be incredibly directional, so I still can't move much from the "optimum" position. Can't beat that big wide horn dispertion of a PA cab. [/quote] I've never found a cab to be that directional, esp the better ones. If anything i've had problems with PA guys not liking the way that even on whisper quiet my bass cab will fill the hall in a way their speakers won't

It's interesting - berg obviously made a powered cab line - then discontinued them. I guess not enough interest/sales/profit margins? It just strikes me, that if that HK DART thing had a tiny bit more low end (and not much more) then, at £600 new online I would seriously think of replacing my rig with it or something similar! It's not too heavy really, it can take a monitor mix too, and can be stood up to look more "amp" like.

[quote name='owen' timestamp='1372851834' post='2130643'] I have a 3x 10" + Compression driver Berg powered cab (IP310). 1Kw powersoft amp module with full DSP. It is a thing of beauty. However it is proper old school thick wood and ceramic magnets to the max so weighs the same as a small house. All is forgiven when I plug it in though [/quote] must sound awesome! I saw you were selling it a year or so back (serching Berg IP in sales section) but you changed your mind?

[quote name='funkle' timestamp='1372764524' post='2129557'] The new greenboy Fearless f112 cabinets have a wedge option, 3 way design (with Faital mid and Faital tweet as optional), padding for the mid to allow for EB/DB use, and slightly greater internal volume than the Thunderchild which allows for slightly greater bass extension. Uses the Eminence 3012LF. Not many reviews on Talkbass yet but it looks like a very interesting cab. Very expensive to get a builder to make one for you...example builder at [url="http://jhawkcustoms.com/fearless.htm"]http://jhawkcustoms.com/fearless.htm[/url] Guess what I've been looking at lately? [/quote] are fearless the ones where the plans are available to build your own? [quote name='shizznit' timestamp='1372770944' post='2129687'] I am currently using one of these (12") in the band I am currently working with and it is incredible...probably the best foldback monitor I have ever used. When rest of the band is playing it sounds like any other foldback monitor I have used, but when we sound check and work on my sound the bass guitar representation is astonishingly good through that HK. It's also really pokey for a 12" foldback. Our engineer can really crank the drums through it without break up. Can't recommend these monitors enough. [/quote] yeah they are great! Was using it again yesterday- listening noticed that there wasn't much low end... but didn't really miss it. What I did miss, was without a preamp I could fiddle with I couldn't roll off my highs very well. Still amaizing sounding bit of gear. Personally, I was seriously wondering why I had this fancy bass amp and stuff, but changing the tweeter setting seems to move the crossover so it sounds a whole lot better now to my ears as more of the high mids are being done by the tweeter- and the whole thing sounds flatter sounding. (which makes sense as they would have probably designed the cab for a certain setting and the others are options. Ok it's still not flat and colourless or anything but it's pretty good.

rant over.... now Mumford and Sons.... Marcus (lead singer, songwriter) used to live in Edinburgh for a bit and we have a few vauge mutual friends. A friend of mine gave me a copy of some of their first recordings, just 4 or 5 songs.... and I stuck them on loop on a mp3 player and would just sit and listen. Yeah the banjo playing was a bit crap (my banjo playing friend says he's technically shockingly simplistic) but their were these soulful and raw sounding tunes with this bluegrass-or-folk-by-people-who-havn't-heard-any-bluegrass-or-folk-but-read-about-it-in-a-book which gave the music and songs an enourmous space - and also did that vast sad songs that sound happy thing (see Frightened rabbit for more of this) with a real emotional energy. The mutual friends were going to do some project in south africa and to raise money put on a gig. Marcus came and played some songs, just him with a guitar. More acoustic indie than bluegrass... and again this same emotional depth and intensity to the music and the songs. And then the album came out. And all the energy and emotion had been sucked out- and it just sounds like a mush and then they got styled as some kind of hipster bluegrass band.... and the second album - I don't even have the urge to go listen.... why a band with 2 albums would headline glasto I don't know...

I don't get the class thing.... so.... most of on here are musicians, and/or spend time on here talking and conversing about it... maybe 90% of folk have an expensive bass- one or two make their living from this bass but the majority of us don't. Most of us work, some in fairly respectable positions. From the off topic conversations we generally follow slightly left of centre or liberal political views.... my guess would be that the majority of basschat are middle class, and probably average age range late 20's to late 30's? .... so why knock a successful band for being middle-class? or are we all pretending we are punk, or snarling rock and roll stars like liam gallagher or something? just strikes me as odd.