LukeFRC

[quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1382472146' post='2252665'] I wasn't sure how I would like the 12/6, but its fantastic. Not only that, but the build quality and finish is on par with Bergantino and Aguilar. I'd like to see the new BF range in the flesh but purely on a aesthetical design point of view I prefer the TKS cabs. That is without seeing the BF Gen 3 in the flesh. I just don't like the coating idea very much...unless its like the Berg AE range, Silly, but you pay the price so may as well have something that looks good at the same time, (to whoever is buying it). I've only briefly looked into PA desks....they bore me to tears to be honest. I love playing with bass/guitar amps, but PA's seem rather boring to me. I'd always leave it to the soundman, who probably hasn't got clue and has no real qualifications in most situations. Pre/post? A P bass plugged straight into the DI box to the PA sounds pretty limp...I've tried it many times. A Stingray...not so much, the active EQ gives more control. Still, a decent pre-amp like a Tech 21 or Aguilar pedal and you are again colouring the tone. But colour can be great. Nothing wrong with having a defined and coloured sound. Most the players I like have a coloured tone. [/quote] We may just have differing oppinions here - a P bass into DI and PA to my ears sounds awesome - but and the big but- is that you'll be able to tell the good instruments from the bad striaght into DI.... also if your sound man is an idiot then yeah you're best off doing it yourself! I also know from seeing you about on these forums for years that you tend to have great gear so I presume it sounds good too .... so maybe differing opinions! I don't mind the finish on barefaced to be honest. I know Alex knows what he's doing sound wise which is what would swing it for me.

Buy the bass secondhand off here from someone with a fair few posts and good feedback - you'll probably get a better set up bass than the shop and it will be cheaper.

http://www.banzaimusic.com/Knobs/ Banzai music - german based and some of the best knobs in europe... what you're looking is in the metal knob section I think

[quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1382444264' post='2252156'] Try the TKS 12/6....and you can add a horn...(there is one on demo in Newcastle if you pass!) Very 'PA' like full range quality. Ridiculous amount of clear bottom end, very 'flat' and quite dry sounding, excellent if you want that kind of tone. The mids are super clear with the 6. I would personally want the horn...just to add the extra treble bite. For a small cabinet...it really is shockingly good. It also looks stunning and weighs hardly anything. [/quote] I was looking at their website yesterday... bit of a lack of info for me to make a plunge... -10dB at 33Hz - I would be interested how quickly that rolled off... but converting the price into GBP and it's pretty much the same price as a barefaced BB2 which is lighter. [quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1382453817' post='2252329'] Surely any decent soundman can use post EQ as its the sound you desire, and he can tweak to the room? [/quote] Hmm quoting two posts in a row, I'm not getting at ya honest! Having done a tiny bit of PA stuff... I would prefer my own DI straight from the bass (or effects if used) and then split the DI to the desk and link to the amp. I'm pretty sure that almost any half good bass plugged into a DI I could make sound good, once it has gone through an amp... it's less certain. I know the bass sound will probably work well and then I can add compression and Eq from the desk... ideally then you mic the cab and blend the two....

nice first post - someone else already did this I think!

[quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1382460103' post='2252436'] Dead strings and scooping mids can have a big effect on this. Up the mids on your amp til the sound is clanky to start off with. Re the tone knob, I have mine installed with the screw-fixing at 6 o`clock when it is fully on. When I want to cut some treble I move the knob to about 2 o`clock (level with one of the screws on the pickguard) and this has the desired effect - still enough treble/mids to not be slushy with no definition, but a much warmer motowny type tone. Mine is a 2011 Precision so should be the same. Re this, the pickups in this series have a reputation for being scooped (and I kindof agree with this). [/quote] I think Lozz makes a good point about how your amp is set in the Eq....[quote name='thebrig' timestamp='1382458643' post='2252407'] I've checked it against wiring diagrams and everything is definitely wired up correctly. [/quote] I don't doubt it - so must be another problem.... - how new is your lead? damaged leads (and they all get damaged with time) have the effect of acting as another tone control and taking some high end off. -how high are you pickups set? The height of the pups have a massive effect on both volume and tone. If it's all a bit boomy and little difference raise the pups a turn or two and it should add in some mids. - still no difference. Is it your amp? how is it Eqed? try sticking the bass straight in the effects return socket and playing and see what that sounds like.

[quote name='Magic Matt' timestamp='1382457293' post='2252384'] Still worth it even though it's going to be around £45 in fuel to go and get it? I know nothing of how expensive they are to make... [/quote] how much has your planned build been costed out to? How valuable is your time? add them together... if more than that cab and petrol money... then yes

[quote name='allighatt0r' timestamp='1382435021' post='2252012'] Wow. Where do you source these awesome basses? I love the Arias. [/quote]somewhere between japan and poland i guess

the fella who has the sky blue japanese fender jazz with the racing stripes - he swears by his. can't remember his name mind

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1382289579' post='2250165'] Pre eb are my personal favourite, we compared a real pre eb a few weeks ago to my classic 5 which also has a john east preamp, the pre eb blew mine away. [/quote] ouch, was that painful to find out?

oh and a shade over 10lb, and possibly, if they used the serial numbers consecutively, the [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]134th Yamaha BB ever made..... [/font][/color]

[quote name='pete.young' timestamp='1382383430' post='2251593'] How did it go Luke? Just over £300 seems to be a very good deal for someone. [/quote] [quote name='Ashborygirl' timestamp='1382388506' post='2251670'] That was a steal, £304 for a BB1200? The world's gone mad. [/quote] good price for someone there.

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1382393137' post='2251749'] +1 Suit you, sir! I'm always amazed at the low price of BFM cabs second-hand. Must be because they don't have any evidence of 'branding' on them and thus are seen as 'home-made'. [/quote]

So thinking.. options... 1) Berg IP or equiv. - powered cabs designed for bass with compression and DSP etc. can easily find other folk who've used them for bass guitar 2) PA speaker, fullrange with DSP etc - often designed to be used with subs so might not be suitable for bass guitar 3) Fullrange bass cab, 2-3 way speaker... not as high tech obviously... barefaced being one example - what others are out there? Theres a BFM omni 12 tallboy for sale on here for not too much, what are they like? Bill stuff has a good reputation hasn't it?

or buy this..... http://basschat.co.uk/topic/213386-l180-bfm-omni-12-tallboy-2x10-full-range-cab/ what you want, or better than spec- more or less on budget, can be used with either of your amps... and without you having to learn to build a speaker yourself!

they don't say what the actually are - I mean I guess the ones with 12 in the title are 12 inch drivers, and 15 15 inch and so on.... but I'm confused

[quote name='andydye' timestamp='1382347250' post='2250800'] I've used mine with: Genz shuttle - sounded vacuous and displeasing Acoustic Image Focus II - sounds crisp and beautiful MB MLII & III - sounds rich and fruity while still retaining the clarity All through an EAD Foundation 212 cab which is lovely and transparent and puts out exactly what I put in! I also had a Barefaced S12t before that but the EAD is clearer in all respects [/quote] it's interesting how the amp makes such a difference. I'm kinda torn between a cleaner than clean amp for it or something more trad and rock

So right up there with are Fodera's to much, does it work with metal and what bass is best..... another highly subjective thread containing no absolute truths, just opinions! So all you ACG users.... I have an ACG pre in my main bass, massive wide warm sound is how I would describe it- it seems to bring out the harmonics and sounds great.... But what amp (or amp type) do you find it works well with? I've tried woolly valvey stuff (ashdown) big sounding solid state stuff (tecamp puma 1000) and recently found it sounds good plugged straight into the poweramp of my puma. What do you find works, sounds good - and why?

he's also got an interesting looking early overwater. He's had it up for sale for over a month so may be open to offers.

I want to disagree with the framework for this question posed by the OP.... firstly you're writing music or basslines. So I'm going to presuppose that you have listened to some music in your life... secondly... your noodling on a bass guitar... I'm guessing you can actually play the thing. And maybe even learned some songs written by other people? So before you have started your noodling.... you've got an in depth knowledge of western music, esp the use of bass guitar across different genres, you have learnt to play your instrument, will know through practice where each note is and... the tonal relationships between the note you're playing and other notes on the fretboard, you have a muscle memory of where notes are, you have a sense of rhythm gained from listening and learning your instrument and practice. So you wish to suggest you have no musical theory to your noodling... well you may not pass any exams at music school (I wouldn't either) but you've got some theory there.

"It would sound better if you only played the root note, just once per bar"

[quote name='Jellyfish' timestamp='1382195672' post='2249163'] Gotta echo that to be honest. That, and Ritter threads. [u][i]If you aren't the target audience, don't worry about it.[/i][/u] Seriously though, Fodera make instruments that are clearly different from your average off-the-shelf bass, and even other custom builders to a degree. They're selling them for what they think they're worth, and if people are buying them, they must be doing something right. In fact, if you compared all basses in the £1000-£1500 price range, you'd find many people would be able to pick out the overprices ones. [/quote] well this thread is getting rather silly isn't it? But if someone will sell me a fodera for £1000-1500 I'ld be quite happy to play it for a year or so and report back a definite answer to this thread. Wanting to open another tangent on the OP, say I had £1000-1500 what's the most underpriced bass I could get for my money (new or secondhand)?

gibson size - 5/16 of an inch The metric equivalent is 7.94mm [font="Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, san-serif"][size="2"][color="#000000"]when I had one I found a 8mm sprocket tool designed for remote control cars and bent the rod till I could use it. If it's going to be turned reguarly source a 5/16th tool (stumac or somewhere) if you're only going to turn it once in a blue moon then you may be able to get away with a 8mm too.l..[/color][/size][/font]