LukeFRC

If I were doing it and spending money on it I would get the neck at least from USACG - based purely on the valenti I had that was made by them and top top quality. Last time I checked a neck and body were about the same/less than warmoth. There's a UK company that has started doing bass bodys too.

While I can see how a flat colour would look nice with a matt finish.... I can't help thinking that when you have a candy coat like candy apple red it's kinda a bit pointless/odd. The scratches might polish out with T-cut - wondered why you bought a candy apple red jazz if you didn't want candy apple red?

way nicer!

[quote name='Skol303' timestamp='1360689133' post='1974756'] Nothing uncool about Rob Slusar mate! Sounds fine as an artist name to me. How about going with just 'Slusar'? Short, snappy and a bit enigmatic. [/quote] I was about to suggest that. Slusar - a good band name!

[quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1360680146' post='1974479'] How much treble is on this bass tone? Hardly any. Can you hear every note? Hell yes. Mixing bass like this is a dying art. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVlSdY6N7Dk[/media] [/quote] right... I know you'll have some expertise here.... how do you see flat wound strings, and also less valvey sounds effecting how we hear the bass "in the mix" ?

[quote name='Lowender' timestamp='1360673845' post='1974284'] Ever hear a remake of a cool Motown track? The bass is always a more simplified version -- most probably because anything busy and syncopated will not translate with all that monstrous low end the engineers like to use. [/quote] and also we use more simplified versions of musicians now

or your ashdowns ar broken

[quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1360671808' post='1974227'] I`m not sure of the difference, but all I know is, they make very good basses (which may seem a bit of a daft comment from me, seeing as I`m selling one). [/quote] dunno, If i were selling one I think it would be a good comment. I mean if I were after a white P bass, tort guard and upgraded USA pickups... I know where I would go!

[quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1360672691' post='1974251'] Yes. Fender Precisions also get this on the A quite a bit, so have encountered this a fair bit myself. Lowering the strings as far as they can go, and making sure you don`t have too many windings (2 or 3 max) round the pegs should prevent this. [/quote] or use more windings to force the string lower down the tuner also has worked for me, esp on the E string

[quote name='Dr Chocolate' timestamp='1360671866' post='1974229'] It's all the strings and they stop if I hold them down just after the nut, but maybe you're right, the strings could go about a mm lower on all the pegs. Do you think that would be the culprit? [/quote] downward tension is your friend. rewind the strings on and have them exiting the string post as low as possible. The bigger break angle over the nut will probably improve the way your bass plays/sounds too slightly

[quote name='GUI101' timestamp='1360619878' post='1973649'] Have done a little more digging around the tecamp 212's and the reviews just seem to say that the S series is just a more compact version of the M and L series. Although they did say that it is a very high quality cab. Also it doesn't look like there are any UK dealers, that can't be right....can it? [/quote] I have the M210 - it's great.

is it the strings or the tuners rattling? The strings should be under tension at this point?

[quote name='mckendrick' timestamp='1360631736' post='1973868'] I think Fender Japan didn't organise into an independent concern until 1984. Although Fender branded product was produced from 1982 I think it was still under the Fender USA umbrella to supply the US market until post-CBS Fender USA picked up in '84 under the leadership of BIll Schultz. Summat like that. . [/quote] I don't really follow this (it is late mind) according to the info (and photo of the announcement) on 21frets.com Fender Japan Co. Ltd was formed March 11 1982 - the site you linked too seems to suggest that Fender japan was formed to stand in for Fender USA for a few years - but (again 21frets as my source) many of the early Fender Japan stuff was for the japanese market or lower end stuff (i.e. JV squier) for USA and Europe - yes a lot of them are very good but I think this was coincidental rather than an attempt to replace Fender USA for a while- if that makes sense. I mean did Fender badged Japanese instruments even get exported to the states in the early 80's at all? I like Japanese Fenders, a lot. I think they can be some of the best and most consistent fenders you can buy - but their is this odd mythologising of them - like how many times have we all read (as in that article) that the JV, SQ and some E series japanese Fenders used lots of Fender USA parts.... which would be nice.... and some of the first JV model strats seem to have usa pickups... but the wider idea that well of course they "all used them", without saying which parts, which ranges and for how long, and where the evidence for that is. There seems to be this desire (perhaps understandable from people trying to sell them) to coinflate everything that says Fender Japan on it with the very best of what Fender Japan makes - an equivalent would be to sell a half decent Fender USA bass with a description of the top of the range custom shop bass they make. Yes there are links but that doesn't make them the same/equal. ... on the whole great basses though!

[quote name='mckendrick' timestamp='1360628659' post='1973840'] Quote..... [i]"[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Among the Fender Japanese guitars, there were two different logos used: [b][i]Crafted in Japan [/i][/b]and [b][i]Made in Japan, [/i][/b]and both were being made at the same time from 1994 till 1997. This means that the the serial numbers starting in 1994 ran consecutively on both the MIJ and the CIJ models while the MIJ logo was being phased out. Mid–1997 the CIJ logo was the only one used on Fender guitars coming out of Japan (with exception the Squire series). [b]There are several theories about why some Japanese Fenders have MIJ and others CIJ[/b]. One is that there was a reorganizing of where the parts were being make in the large, expansive [i]Fugi Gen Gakki[/i] company. The island of Matsumoto is where the Fugi plant is located. It houses 15-20 different smaller companies, Like [i]Kawi, Gen Gakki Ten, Yamara, Gotoh, Yamoto, [/i]etc. I was told by a former Fender Rep that the necks were made one place and the bodies another, while the electronics were made in yet another. I was told that the contract with [i]Yamoto[/i] stated if any major subcontractor was to be changed the weaning process would have to take place (MIJ to CIJ). They call it the “Squire countdown.” Since [i]Fuji[/i] was pressing hard to get the Epiphone contract, a change was made. [i]Kawi[/i] was moving the bulk of their piano building to a new facility in China, and would also be making their own “harp” frames there. This freed up a lot of space in the plant. [i]Yamara[/i] and [i]Gotoh[/i] retooled to handle the woodwork and finish aspects of the guitars—thus the [b]Crafted in Japan[/b] line was created. [b]The other story is, and maybe both are true and run consecutively,[/b] I really don’t know, but the MIJ logo Fenders were for the USA market. USA Fender wanted to stop the import of these guitars to the USA due to firing up their Mexican plant and due to the “too good” quality Japan was creating which competed with the USA models."[/font][/i] [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]From; [url="http://xhefriguitars.com/page9.html"]http://xhefriguitars.com/page9.html[/url][/font] [/quote] interesting website that... seems to suggest fender japan started in late 1984. Which is odd, as my JV was made in 1982....

[quote name='Musky' timestamp='1360624106' post='1973758'] It was Fuji Gen that made the MIJ's (as a JV owner I thought you'd know that ). They also made some of the Grecos, so maybe that's where the confusion comes from. I think it's Tokai and Dyna that makes the CIJ's, though the first ones appeared in parallel with MIJ's around 92-97 I think. It has been speculated that Fuji Gen had something in their contract that specified they were the makers of 'MIJ' instruments. It's also speculated that the return of 'MIJ' basses means they are making the Japanese stuff now. I'm not entirely sure where these theories came from, but it's on the internet, so must be true. Speaking of 'true' stuff on the internet, the wikipedia Fender Japan page has all this info just so anyone can fill their boots with the latest rumours. [/quote] ahh... cos of course Greco is just a brand.... man, Bassassin would shoot me if he were still around!

[quote name='Lord Sausage' timestamp='1360620311' post='1973660'] It does. Cheers! [/quote] so your '62ri ... probably has the spiral bridge and will be a higher end model made of alder. i.e. a good one.

It's bollocks - Fender used to use a couple of factorys to build their basses - the first was Greco I think (but don't quote me on that) and from 1982-97 they used Made in Japan. In 97 I think it swiched to another producer who used "Crafted in Japan" - until 2007,2008 when they start using Made in Japan again - probably another factory. The fender website lists more Made in japan from 2010-2011 from yet another factory for certain models. So thats the reason for the switch... different suppliers. So why do I think it's all bollocks ebay sellers language? Well mainly because you rarely hear of a bad Fender bass - wether MIJ or CIJ and that if there is a difference I suspect it's so minimal that it's both not as big as variation from bass to bass, and not worth worrying about one bit. They will both be decent basses. But.... Some japanese Fender were made to export (like the Geddie Lee model) and some were made for the japanese market. Which is better? Well the best guitars that Fender Japan make are for the japanese market. And also the worst guitars Fender Japan make are for the japanese market.... they make a range of qualities for their market - from cheaper basic models to top of the range vintage reissues and even the japanese version of a custom shop... and of course that's changed over the years too! So in conclusion. The fact that it's MIJ or CIJ, made for export or made for import tells you very little about how good it is or how high up the range it is- just that it was made in japan. Hope that helps!

Fender American Vintage series. Either '57ri or 62ri actually Ive not heard a bad word about the pino signature P

[quote name='KevB' timestamp='1360604172' post='1973195'] A further update for those not remotely interested. Band 1 ( the 'learn 15 songs for an audition' lot) cancelled for the third week in a row. Bandleader then admitted he was finding it difficult to get in touch with 2 of the existing band and it would have to be him, me and the drummer working on original material. As this was miles away from what I signed up for I politely bailed out at this juncture. Band 2 meanwhile (the 33 song set list band) now looking like they need a dep guitarist if their next gig in 2 weeks time is going to happen. Considering their last gig was cancelled at short notice I'm beginning to wonder if all is OK with that band too. maybe I should just start looking around again from scratch, a lot of wasted time burning the midnight oil cramming in a lot of practice for nothing so far. It's never straight forward is it? [/quote] Do you know a decent guitarist? Go along as a pair. If they are good go for it... if not all you need is a drummer and you have a band yourself!

it says LADO on the headstock - google it and you see pictures of similar basses...

[quote name='neepheid' timestamp='1360596357' post='1972995'] Before: After (refinish done by Rich - Ou7shined): [/quote] although the refinish is much much better I can't help wondering what the button is for....

[quote name='lettsguitars' timestamp='1360596602' post='1973003'] This thread does seem unnecessary really. [/quote] yep.

[quote name='icastle' timestamp='1360510101' post='1971421'] I think it's about proportion. If I went off to a car boot sale and picked up a pre CBS Fender Jazz Bass for £20, cleaned it up, stuck a new set of string on it and then flogged it on here for £400 would there still be a complaint because I'm making 20x what I paid for it? As long as a price is fair (and that will undoubtedly be assessed by potential buyers) then I don't really see a huge problem. If it's not fair then it just wont sell - that's how sales work. [/quote] I would not complain at all, thank you. do you want to do paypal or bank transfer? [quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1360510567' post='1971432'] I have never bought or sold a bass on Basschat , but back in the days when I had less money than I do now I bought and sold loads of used basses , mainly out of neccessity . Some I broke even on , some I lost money on , some I made a modest profit on . The crucial thing is to be[u] honest [/u]with people and let them make their mind up made up based on truthful and accurate information about what you are selling .Things have a market value , and if someone sells a bass under the market value because they need or want to realise the cash value of their asset ( i.e the bass ) quickly then it is not neccesarilly unscrupulous or immoral for the person who has bought the bass cheaply to try and get the full market value of the bass . I agree wholeheartedly that , I would sincerely hope at least , the spirit of Basschat is one of genuine enthusiasts who want to go out of their way to be fair and helpful to each other - that is certainly the way I would want to conduct any business of my own on here - but ultimately if people think a seller is being exploitative then , as others have said , no one is forcing anyone to buy from them . [/quote] good answer there Dingus [quote name='Musky' timestamp='1360513923' post='1971514'] Good to hear. I was about to say I thought this is exactly what the Affiliates forum was for. If someone is one here to trade then that should be made absolutely clear. AFAIK dealers have to declare themselves when selling secondhand cars (and for all I know other products) and there are laws that apply to dealers that don't to private sellers. If someone whats to deal on these boards they should be posting in the appropriate section. [/quote] there are some folk on here who have a higher turnover of basses than many dealers! [quote name='Johngh' timestamp='1360586280' post='1972655'] The only time I think it's acceptable to sell a bass on for more that a member paid for it is if new strings have been added or if a bass has been bought and then had some luthier work done on it to make it straight. In other words if a buyer has had considerable expense in getting a bass straight. Even then there is a market value. Just my opinion. Some of the basses I have bought on here at some time or another end up with Jon Shuker for a good set up and fret dress to get them spot on. Also, the last bass I bought on here was delivered to me with no strings on it at all, and were talking a high level bass. When i opened the case I thought the seller had taken them off for transportation and they were in the compartment in the case....nope, nothing there. The word gobsmacked come's to mind. There has been a few sellers on here who seem to buy basses from ebay for example and then try to sell them on here for a profit. They are being watched. While it is not against forum rules, there must come a time when when if someone does it once too often they have a danger of being classed as a trader, or an amateur one at that. If it becomes too regular with any one individual, we will look into it. [/quote] I picked up my Warwick from someone 5-6 years ago when the prices were low. He was emigrating to america in a week and needed shot of it. It didn't cost much. I spent over the years some money on a fret dress and some on different pickups but you are going to add maybe £100 of work to the price I paid for it. Are you saying if I sold this bass, A brilliant 1991 Streamer Stage One, I would be selling it for what I paid then plus £100? Because that would make it cheaper than some secondhand mexican fenders! (and no Warwickhunt you can't have it - it's a hypothetical example!) I get what you're saying but I don't think it's that simple - like when I see folk offer a bass and tell me they have spent silly amounts on set up and that makes up 20% of the price that's equally mad as I can set up a bass myself - just because you've spent £80 on a set up doens't mean the bass is necessarily worth more - if the bass IS worth more then I would prefer it was just sold at what it was worth as- I mean how do you work it out, I found a beaten up Peavey T40 a few years back at a very low price - kept it 6 months and spent ages stripping it down and doing it up, replacing the broken parts etc. How should I have added the bill for my time onto the price? In the end I sold it for market value.