LukeFRC

what's the craic with the toneprint stuff? to me it seems like a good idea, but a bit gimmicky... but I dunno do folk would ever use it? like- why? surely somethingl ike a bass Pod would be more user friendly if you want all that stuff?

and seeing you're making us wait I will remind you.....

the suspense is killing me.

[quote name='Sumatra' timestamp='1380750357' post='2230201'] There was also a custom shop and to me this was better. I know Fullerton are somewhat special, I'm as well not sure if they are worth that money or what should be a "correct" value. Thanks Luca [/quote] It depends what you want it for.... like there's no reason to spend £2k on a Fullerton when you can buy pretty much any bass you want at the moment secondhand for £1k or so. But Fullerton prices have started going up recently.... (this is my 30 year vintage rule I think I do find it funny I meantioned my offhand comment that fenders start going up in price after 30 years once... and so far have seen other folk quote the 30 year rule in other threads. I've started a very very very small meme! any way back on topic) but if it's a "vintage fender" investment type thing maybe it's worth it? also 85 seems late for "fullerton" or one of the last?

[quote name='skelf' timestamp='1380746380' post='2230084'] Some short vids documenting varies parts of the build progress. This may not be the best way in the world to build basses but it is the way I worked it out. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrL57IBamNw[/media] [/quote] you've got the video set as private!!

[quote name='xilddx' timestamp='1380636892' post='2228227'] So, I find it hard to believe that the majority of people who order a custom bass have any idea what they want, other than some pretty bookmatched bullshit. [/quote] I do wonder why this thread continued beyond that point! I read the whole of the "won the wal pickup on ebay" thread over on the other side - it was fairly clear from the bat that the fella wouldn't get the thing done anytime - to make production yes would take a while but to knock out a wal like pup... well I was trying to work out if I would be able to do it myself (or at least learn too.. and while it would take a while it would be possible - where you would get stuck would be getting the pickup to interface with a preamp!

OT... I think the thing I found odd about the thread we're talking about wasn't "this has just happened with X, Y and Z" but more general leading to everyone to go on a massive guessing game. Like you could be the best builder in the world, and you have a bad day, or something breaks, or your mum goes into hospital, or you slip with a chisel or anything... or, and more likely - some of us are utter ******s when it comes to being a customer that a relationship sours or something - and that get's bandied about the internet - but nobody hears about the 1000 happy customers - and when those customers do try and defend the builder it all becomes a bit odd.

[quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1380733868' post='2229750'] Quite. Damn this free forum, staffed by fallible human volunteers! [/quote] +1

[quote name='Kiwi' timestamp='1380577021' post='2227487'] I agree in principle about the wood but there are [b]some manufacturers out there like Chris Celinder, who get remarkably consistent results from passive wooden instruments. [/b]I don't think the pickups or preamp have much effect on the sound of a bass at all outside of very coarse adjustments. I've tested the outer limits with at least two pickup suppliers and preamp manufacturers and am pretty confident I know what can be achieved. Re: jigs, I'm talking about expectation management not build process. [/quote] which explains why people pay the money they do for Celinders.... I would argue that there are a fair few builders around who don't have that level of luthiery to build towards a tone/or sound pallet. It's how I understand custom instruments to end up with a sound that you really don't understand how on earth they would work in a mix!

[quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1380576503' post='2227475'] But why do people always mention the 'poor technique' thing....its quite derogatory. It sounds like people are saying 'my cab isn't coloured thus I'm a better player'. [/quote] because if you learn to play in a certain style and then play through a full range bass cab -[b] or through a PA[/b] then any deficiencies in your playing, in timing, and the attack you give the strings, and how you move your hands over the fretboard will become a lot clearer than through a more coloured cab.... the counter argument would ask how much that matters in a live mix.... I had a similar thing with my warwick. I went from playing P bass through a warm valvey head into a warm middy cab to playing my warwick into a trace elliot combo at church... apart from sounding like we were back in the 80's the active pickups, the Eq and the bass had such a bright tone and fast attack it sounded like a machine gun... but that quickness of attack really showed up the timing issues.

[quote name='Gamble' timestamp='1380571923' post='2227378'] Thanks chaps! You're right, it's one that's popped up in a local shop - I very nearly handed over my credit card when I played it but I've calmed down a bit now, 2 grand does seem like a lot of money. I knew it was expensive but wasn't sure if it was overpriced as I haven't seen many 80's Thumbs for sale, of course there's the argument that any bass is worth what you're prepared to pay but I never like to hand over my hard earned without checking to see if it could be better spent first. Any further comments or advice will still be gratefully received, I might see if I can raise some money before I buy it and just call it fate if it sells before I get there. [/quote] check out the one in bass gear too... £500 cheaper