LukeFRC

[quote name='ChrisG' timestamp='1347975430' post='1807464'] Glad to be of assistance. I only know all this because I almost bought one but ended up buying a Thumb NT of the For Sale on here instead. [/quote] early thumb that too!

[quote name='silddx' timestamp='1348095607' post='1809403'] That is such a key point. [/quote] I think if you do listen to a lot of stuff it's easy to forget, my flatmate has a degree in music and can just create melodies in his head that flow and work- he can then play them in pretty much anything he touches. I hear them and maybe get them out if I'm lucky- or I have a sense where I can improvise based more on where I wnat to go rather than what the chord shape is. But we've all met people who just can't hear it. They know the songs but going off chart, or making new stuff isn't going to happen - I link that down to listening

not everyone listens to enough music to be a good musician.

[quote name='Musky' timestamp='1348094370' post='1809377'] +1 There's a lot of talk in this thread underpinned by an apparent belief that vintage instruments will [i]always[/i] climb in value. Perhaps they will, but maybe they won't - who knows? What we do know is that there have been big changes going on in the music industry, not least that bands are no longer the only game in town. The dance side of things has already taken off big time time, with nary a 'real' instrument in sight, something that is likely to become even more common in the future if the current drought of recorded music sakes continues. There are real economic benefits if you can record the bulk of your tracks in the bedroom rather than paying big bucks for a band recording in a quality studio. So we'll most likely see a bigger market for music which has no need for basses and a commensurate drop in the numbers wanting to buy them. All of which is probably quite a long term view, and at 50 one I might not be around to see come to pass. If we're talking about purely investment here you'll probably do better looking elsewhere, certainly away from instruments that already fetch very high prices. If you're set on buying a bass it's the future classics I'd be looking at. G&L? [/quote] would love a first edition L1000 - with the flathead screwdriver pole pieces on the pickup. Forget about investment- just play the damn thing!

[quote name='Mornats' timestamp='1348080471' post='1809072'] I think there's weight in the argument that if your basses fanciness outshines your playing then it can inspire you to up your game to match. This may sound silly to some people but having a bass you love picking up and playing is great motivation. [/quote] and in a short time I will be comeing to a youtube channel near you, the double thumb tapping monster!

[quote name='lowdowner' timestamp='1348037760' post='1808279'] Funny one this... My first bass was my Warwick thumb (a year on now and I have no intention of changing). Compared with playing something like a violin, a cello, or any other type of 'classical' instrument (even a piano for goodness sakes) the cost of a Thumb is way lower even though it's a 'fancy' bass for some folk. I *did* feel a bit of a fraud for a short while as I plucked away (badly) on my roots and fifths, but then I've worked bloody hard to be able to afford one,always wanted one, always thought they looked and sounded the dogs bollox, and i love the way they are made and feel when I play it. So a year on I'm happy I bought it, still loving it, and I couldn't give a flying f' what anyone else thinks about it - to me it's what a bass is all about So *ner* [/quote] thumbs not a fancy bass in my book. It's a design classic!

do you not think that the potential increase on a good preEB over the next 20 years might be more than an already high price in a satuated pre CBS Fender market? If it were me, unless I found a bargin, I would buy several basses likely to increase rather than one already high one.

to the OP - would old pre EB stingrays suit you more than old fenders - if that's what you play and are knowledgeable about?

[quote name='tauzero' timestamp='1348008612' post='1808199'] My 25-year-old Thumb doesn't have any issues with its JAN. [/quote] i want a 25 year old thumb too

BTW the 30 year rule thing is something I just have noticed- no idea if it's actually true or carries on! [quote name='Rick's Fine '52' timestamp='1348008772' post='1808200'] I play all mine, although some are treated more carefully than others, for valid reasons. For example.... [/quote] ".... you ride about on your bike with your JV on your back - please don't do that!" a paraphrased bit of advice from Rick!

really? My JAN is about 22 years old on a bass that's been played a lot over that time... and it's fine- ive never heard of any problems with the original JAN

[quote name='jezzaboy' timestamp='1348002079' post='1808063'] C`mon Luke, what is it. I just want to see if it`s the same one I was thinking of! [/quote] this one. the seller is a right ******** [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/185462-sterling-by-mm-ray-34-ca-traded/page__fromsearch__1"]http://basschat.co.u...__fromsearch__1[/url] though someone managed to deal with him it seems!

[quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1347997426' post='1807967'] Yes, late 70s are fetching good prices. My 77 was £1350, and my 78 was £1200. And in all likelyhood, they will only go up in value - 10 years from now I reckon nearer the £2K mark. [/quote]doubt it will take 10 years (depending on the economy)

hmmmm....

[quote name='razze06' timestamp='1347983122' post='1807650'] magnetic pickups are inherently passive transducers, perhaps the battery powers a fixed active eq? Or an active buffer? I'm not about to dismantle and check, so i'll live in doubt [/quote]active pups, like EMG's, will have a active buffer as part of the pickup housing.

[quote name='Rick's Fine '52' timestamp='1347981929' post='1807623'] Already happening, really nice examples of '82 Fullertons (Guitars more than basses, but they will follow), with V00 serials, and all the case candy, in custom colours, are already being marketed at $4000, well over double what they were two years ago even! Thats because the majority can no longer afford the pre-CBS stuff, the same as with 70's stuff, as you said earlier. The added bonus, is that the Fullertons (Earluy ones) are also great guitars, not just collectors pieces. (Not as good as the '82 JV's eh Luke, but still good!) Here's a fine one, $3800 anyone? [url="http://www.gbase.com/gear/fender-fullerton-62-reissue-str-1982-reissue-1"]http://www.gbase.com...-1982-reissue-1[/url] [/quote] do you think it will go beyond there? I mean everything since fullerton stuff kinda blurs into one as they split production across mexico and the states and japan- I guess the custom shop stuff will hold it's value

though there does seem to be a 30 year rule... about 30 years after they were made Fenders start to go up in value - when I started playing 10 years back late '60's fenders weren't desirable and you avoided the 70's at all cost.... now early, and even late 70's fenders are shooting up in cost to buy. Next stop the early 80's fullerton stuff??

[quote name='drTStingray' timestamp='1347965923' post='1807184'] I'm thinking of buying a vintage bass, largely as an investment, to play at home and maybe very very occassionally for gigs etc. I hear lots of talk of this year is better than that, this colour is better than that etc etc but I'm keen to hear advice on this. My likes are:- clay dots/rosewood board; sunburst, blonde, fiesta red or sonic blue - don't care if it's a Precision or a Jazz - would need to be fully functional and as original as possible - i.e it would need to have the covers and case etc etc. If a Precision I don't like the pre-57 shape. So guys, please advise - what do you think is the best year, colour and model to aim for of a pre CBS Fender, bearing in mind it's intended to be an investment and increase in value. [/quote] PM the one or two experts we have on this site. They will be able to give a wee bit of advice and point you in the right direction. (though bear in mind you are getting their knowledge and skills in the area for free.... so don't take the P!) Personally - and unless you know what you are looking for and how to get a bargin, I would have thoguht that as an investment better things might be found outside the oversaturated 50-60's fender market!

[quote name='Russ' timestamp='1347953788' post='1806965'] Yes. What a lot of people forget is that funk and disco were 1970s bubblegum pop, regardless of how good the instrumental performances were (and I love Bernard Edwards as much as anyone). Lyrically, the song's no better than S Club 7's "Don't Stop Movin'" and nobody would ever accuse that of being anything more than throwaway. [/quote] err... I think that that S Club song is amazing- quite of there stuff was classic and brilliant pop. Motown was 60's pop, but we all like james jamerson. I just like music, I like bits of funk, bits of reggae bits of soul, bit's of ska (both types) bits of jazz, bits of pop, country, folk and bits of rock- life's too short to start differentiating what I like or not based on genre. I've some bluegrass on at the moment. Interesting music happens when something from one style goes into another... Plus interesting stuff

[quote name='silddx' timestamp='1347954519' post='1806975'] And let's face it, most of us like people to admire our taste in basses. [/quote] funnily the only people who I know who have admired my basses have been lasses. And warwickhunt cos they don't weigh much