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[quote name='Sparkl' timestamp='1359416311' post='1954591'] I know and I agree but it's a whole new world playing a Suhr Classic J, or a remarkably well built high end Warwick than a cheap Rockbass alternative. Tried it numerous times and though you can get close with sound quality sometimes the feeling in your hands and the feeling playing it just isn't the same and as comfortable. It's in the wood, the neck, it's in everything actually. If you know what I mean, it's difficult to explain. It's probably just that once you own a well built instrument you probably never go lower than that. There are exceptions of course I played a Garry Willis GWB35 which felt suprisingly comfortable and the sound was great. But from my experience, my friend owns a Rockbass and playing that, I really don't see me craving over this thing. [/quote] I know what you mean. But on the other hand I've had top end instruments and picked up bottom end stuff too... in my experience it's not a direct correlation. Like I really don't get on with the feel of sadowskys much, no idea why - but i've set an old cheap japanese jazz copy up to play like butter. ... that said seeing how we arn't disagreeing and it's a thread asking for advice.... if you want a top notch warwick... look for a pre 1992 neck through model, something from 92-98... or something from 2011 onwards. the middle bit you will find great basses in, and some not so great too. If you try an LX you may find it's the bass for you. If you're buying it based on 'quailty' I would suggest their is better stuff out there... this for instance would wipe the floor of the LX http://basschat.co.uk/topic/197682-fs-warwick-dolphin-pro-1-four-string-1989/page__p__1952816__hl__warwick%20dolphin__fromsearch__1#entry1952816

[quote name='Sparkl' timestamp='1359415053' post='1954563'] I really think that playing professionally and knowing every single detail of an instrument is a separated thing. Or do you consider someone who plays in a professional band and doesn't know a thing about warwicks, a non professional? Seems absurd to me. Don't take me wrong, I'm not considering myself as a professional player even though I'm studiying jazz on an academy, as I don't yet have experience with true professional bands. But I really don't feel like trading my SR5 for a Rockbass ripoff. Simple as that. P.S.: Plus I wasn't even asking of a sound difference between these two basses as I'm fully aware and informed of that. I was merely asking for build quality comparison, and the true worth of a specific instrument. QC as such. [/quote] I was just a wee bit surprised at the way you degenerated the rockbass line. Most the pro's I've chatted to on here may not know anything about warwicks but they would know what they professionally need and would be required to have. You rarely see them asking opinions about blind trades! My take, for a future pro, having a stingray in your arsenal would possibly be more desirable than a Streamer LX...

[quote name='lettsguitars' timestamp='1359406899' post='1954379'] Fair enough. What is it with Warwicks and truss rods today? (another thread) [/quote] what today as in this day, or today as in the ones they are making at the moment?

[quote name='Sparkl' timestamp='1359412926' post='1954523'] I'm terribly and truthfully sorry if I offended someone, I just don't consider a Rockbass as a professional instrument. For hobby playing perhaps, for serious professional use, not really. There is a difference between a cheap instrument and true craftmanship. [/quote] Define professional? not being funny - but wouldn't a professional already know which of a warwick streamer LX or stingray 5 sound suited their projects/shows/studios best without needing to ask here?

[color=#000000][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]"Warwick Streamer LX5 made in Germany, year 2002" -condition, colour, finish, neck wood (still wenge?).... nice bass, kinda like a streamer stage one but bolt on with a wenge or ovenkol neck (i think). Not an amazing vintage. Worth... who knows, my guess, todays pricing 600-1000 ish. [/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Would I trade. Well if a Streamer LX is what you [u][i]want[/i][/u][/font][/color] then why not- it's swapping a good bass for a good bass. If you don't want it and it's just to try, then it's not such a good trade for you in my opinion. There are better Warwicks out there so it may be easier to sell the MM and then go shopping secondhand. But like I said - if a Streamer LX is what you want- and some folk love the LX's- then it's a good trade.

It's not really 'will it reach a better price' - as the answer will probably be yes- it's will the better price be better by more than the cost of the refurb. Personally if I were buying I would care more about the electronics and valves (which you've taken care of) than the cosmetic appearance. But that's just me!

in the fella's defence... I'm no singer but I can imagine if I was ok but not very good I would be able to sing his choices whereas the ones he doens't want to sing would be harder to sing well.... he may just be a bit crap at the singing

take it to a tech.

[quote name='wriggers' timestamp='1359387757' post='1953958'] Hi Ash, welcome from Shipley [/quote] I went to shipley last week. an odd experience.

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1359378640' post='1953739'] You could try changing the pickups and then see if you thought a preamp was still neccesary . [/quote] +1 don't do too much at once I've loved the 75ri's ive played, but the construction and pups does make it a bit thin sounding to someone who learned with a P bass like me... but you say you love the tone... but want more punch... so maybe the preamp is the way to go. Personally if I were you I would look at East retro and an Aguilar OBP1... or actually just an external Aguilar or sadowsky preamp pedal... EDIT: out of interest, what is your amp?

Hello Ash from Holbeck!

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1359322310' post='1953145'] Anyone who still thinks that "Made In Japan" is automatically inferior when it comes to musical instruments is a fool. Ever since I saw how much better in every way the new guitars and basses from Ibanez and Aria Pro II were compared to Fenders in 1979, I have had no problem buying Japanese-made instruments. The three most recent basses I have bought were all made in Japan. [/quote] I don't think that your or my taste in instruments really reflects the wider population, personally I've owned twice as many japanese instruments than all the other countries put together but ... let me put it this way... most guitar shops for guitars sold as "good" focus on Fender and Gibson. To their loss

- Exchange rate - lack of marketing (or English website) - lack of distribution - Cos we still have hang ups about where something comes from? I mean within a lot of you guys playing age japan was known for cheap copies. Now we think of china in the same way... my suggestion is that in 20 years the best basses in the world may come out of a court factory in china... but enough folk will look down their nose at them that they won't get stocked in the same way. - by the time you get to a bass worth importing, pay shiping and taxes a UK based luthier could custom make you something awesome too. slightly OT is sadowsky metro line the only japanese made basses with major distribution to the uk at the mo?

... cos the fella making that bass bought a bridge pup by mistake and had to fit it in somehow

the gold ones are cheap in the states. I got one from the states, new, unopened fender one for about £15 a few years back

[quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1359244687' post='1952176'] If you read my quote you'll see i said that the shop was full of these sort of guitars and was a very big shop. I think that you're missing my point though. You couldn't give these guitars away a few years ago. Nobody wanted them until the world went retro crazy. That was obviously the time to buy then and NOT when they were new. That's my point. [/quote] ah I get you now! The moral of the story is that you should buy whatever is really unfashionable!

[quote name='Lord Sausage' timestamp='1359205920' post='1951524'] I don't know if it's still the same, but a mate got in 10 years ago by doing a Phd over there and Teaching! [/quote] that's quite different to going over there to work!

can I have a go?! Looks wicked! And well done for convincing Peter Andre to buy your first Andre signature model too....

ask McNach he's done similar swap and knows his replacement pups

[quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1359227462' post='1951964'] Those are all definitely future collectables but also very collectable now. I was meaning things that were cheap and nobody really wanted. I remember seeing Mutron 111s going for 30-40 US Dollars in the early 90s. Also all those Jedson, Columbus, Satellite and Hondos that you couldn't wait to trade in for the real thing! Don't know how long you've lived in Twickers Ray but i remember that Bells of Surbiton was full of those brands in the 70s and 80s. They'd be worth a fortune now! [/quote] a fortune? how much do you think a jedson will go for? factor in inflation too and they arn't that good.

[quote name='Kev' timestamp='1359206777' post='1951541'] Nothing scratchy about it I'm afraid, had a luthier look at it today and it is very much a crack, probably caused by an over tightening of the truss rod, but the crack has been filled at some point and iv been told that all will remain okay providing I don't go messing with the truss rod unecessarily or try and play death metal with inch thick strings! The bass is setup nice with low action and plays really well, it's otherwise a stunning example [/quote] well if it works thats a good buy then!