LukeFRC

do you think it's just markbass or all class D amps?

[quote name='drTStingray' timestamp='1342210230' post='1731908'] Your post is very witty, and I'm sure you were joking - [/quote] yep

I used to work at gigs. Worked at one of their gigs, they had drunk a fair bit... but the bass player I couldn't work out, he was using a capo and not playing the baseline coming through the FOH. Well they had a drum break and he went too fast and so the band came in at a different time... and all of a sudden you could see half of the sound was off a backing track, including the bass. Disapointing.

and what do we make of two part bridges a la warwick and alembic?

[quote name='drTStingray' timestamp='1342136100' post='1730393'] Well the difference is you get:- 1) A strings through bridge - lots of debate over the effect but suffice it to say my Classic has ludicrous amounts of sustain - more than other Stingrays I had/have. 2) Mute assembly on the bridge - useful for getting a very thumpy old school sound 3) Choice of birds eye or flamed maple neck with laquered finish 4) Chrome truss rod adjuster wheel 5) Mid 80s headstock logo 6) Original chrome battery box cover 7) Different range of colours - dependent on colour choice, the pick up cover is white or black (but you can buy covers if you don't like the colour you get) The rest is the same as a stock 2 band Stingray - the EQ has been the same spec more or less since 1979 - my Classic is capable of being a bit more aggresive sounding than my 1980 pre EB sunburst was - possibly because it had an alder body whereas all the Classics are ash. So for me it was worth it just for the cosmetic touches, and especially the neck - it's more of a re-make of the early 90s era Ray with the strings through bridge than a re-make of a pre EB bass. You can probably get a good deal on one if you shop around, and who knows on future values but they're probably one of the nicest Stingrays made in recent years which should count for something. I use mine all the time. [/quote] so translated... this bass will give you.... 1) something that might increase the sustain 2) something to stop the sustain 3) softer versions of maple less suitable for a bass neck than non figured 4) a shiney thing 5) a different sticker on it 6) another shiny thing 7) pretty colours. and 8) possibly a 5th string

Put it another way Remember the video I stuck up with me switching the pups out my JV squier... from Seymore Duncans to the original, could anyone NOT hear the difference?

when I was younger and learning to play I had a problem.... being left handed playing a right handed bass I had little or no control of my right hand. Long strap so that the my arm was dead straight hanging down sorted it for me. I could probably have strapped my elbow up straight and been ok, you just let it dangle with everything straight. I think I then had the bass really tilted upward for the left hand. No idea- not done it in ages. (i also have an odd technique for the right hand too)

[quote name='Ou7shined' timestamp='1342099680' post='1729562'] Couldn't agree more. The build diary section should indeed be spilt in two. One for self builds and one for pro builds. Both would be equally as interesting but for fundamentally different reasons. And maybe a third section for minimal mods (my new pickguard, I screwed this neck to this body etc) which I'd most likely not subscribe to. [/quote] nah it's where they blend that's interesting. I like seeing experts do stuff and I love the post i found on talk bass from a guy in india who had no experience and went and bought all this fancy woods and seemed to be making a good job of it. I'ld love to do my own build some time when I have the space and a bit of money for basic tools. (the one thing I would be nervous about is cutting the fret slots) the thing that will encourage me is them all in together. To be honest I would rather the builders ACG, Shuker or whoever stuck up the posts rather than the 'look what someones making for me' threads. And yes. Your fender jazz now has a black guard rather than white. and however many sycophants say how great it is... the buggers still going to sound the same!

[quote name='mart' timestamp='1342094690' post='1729430'] It's basically the same reason why in a Les Paul if you've got both pickups selected, and you set the volume on one pickup to zero then you get no output. [/quote] penny drops!

[quote name='Ou7shined' timestamp='1342050485' post='1728928'] That's so true. How many pups have been lucky enough to have been auditioned through a transparent sounding rig... how many have been rejected because of the amp or cabs characteristics being more dominant? [/quote] 345. but one set of barts were out of phase and the fella didn't realise so it was that that he rejected them for

I think it's important to point out, that especially when you get to the high end stuff that the pickup makers are going for different things. If you want the best copy of a 1960's Jazz bass sound you will go for one thing, want super articulate another a real middy ness another, one will sound big, the other thin so it gets to the point of what do you want, and what will fit the bass they are going into (i still want to see pictures of the bass! ) DiMarzio's are great at what they do, Nordstand are great at what they do. But you don't need to spend big bucks to get good pups, depending on what you want

[quote name='Fat Rich' timestamp='1342027109' post='1728410'] Seems like it's also quite fashionable to say music theory isn't necessary to play bass, seems to often be the same people who say expensive gear isn't necessary. Maybe I'm imagining it [/quote] It's called "punk" rich

[quote name='ThomBassmonkey' timestamp='1342023530' post='1728318'] There's a big difference between a pro and an entheusiast. They're not mutually exclusive, but they're definitely not inclusive. [/quote] [quote name='muttley' timestamp='1342024026' post='1728329'] That may just be that BC-ers are more likely to be customers for this type of bass. If you have something more generic you're more likely to get a better price on eBay. [/quote] hmm combine the two posts... might tell us something about ourselves!

[quote name='Fat Rich' timestamp='1342022362' post='1728292'] And a lot of pro players use a bass from the standard category, have been using the same gear for years and aren't interested in what else is out there. There is indeed a lot of very nice specialist basses up for sale on Basschat, there's quite a lot of people on Basschat who are proud and quite vocal about playing a Precision (with little or no music theory in some cases) because it's a bit primitive and turn their nose up at expensive gear. However, I'm not convinced that Basschat is actually that representative, a lot of busy musicians don't hang around on forums talking about the sonic differences between a Badass II or a standard Fender item, they're out there playing music. I'm not knocking Basschat, it's a great forum and I enjoy the discussion we have about the minutiae of gear. But ultimately it's all a bit pointless and we probably should be spending more time in the Theory and Technique section. [/quote] I had to come up with the definitions to make what I was saying make sense. I was trying not to engender a value system in it, I don't think one is better than the other. My friend worked in the LA recording studio scene for a bit, he said there were 3 types of music gear. The beginner stuff, the pro stuff and the top end stuff. The beginner stuff was aimed at beginners, the pro stuff -standard fender, musicman, overwater etc was aimed at the pros - and all the extra stuff- AAA maple, high end electronic gizmos, added features were aimed at hobbyists who could be convinced that something with those features would be "better" than the pro stuff.

lets divide the market into 4. (and not strictly by cost either ) [b]Beginner [/b]-cheaper starter basses, your squiers, staggs, westfields, SX and whatnot. Mass produced [b]Standard [/b]- Fender, Musicman, Rick, Warwick, Yamaha etc, mass produced standard basses. Some of the cheaper or chinese built lines will blur into beginner and the top end up to the specialist but they make up a lot of what we play. Generally available on the high street. Mass produced [b]Specialist [/b]- Limited production basses, Status, overwater, Fodera, Ken Smith, Sadowsky US etc generally basses made by people the rest of your band won't have heard of. Either high quality or specialist application instruments - bought from specialist bass shops or stock from the builders. Go to the bass direct website and look down the bass makes bar... most of that lot. Batch production. [b]Custom- [/b]Massive overlap with the previous category. Made to order and to customers specs, often hand made by smaller independent builders to order, spec what woods you want etc and they build it. More expensive (often) one off building, bass to your spec, bugger all resale value. Often the specialist builders will offer this service. (I don't mean musicman or whatever letting you decide what colour paint job you have, it's a structural custom, not cosmetic) if you have a look at the sale forum now.... I don't know if it says anything about fashion or not, but theres an awful lot of the kinda specialist bass makes, up for sale

warwicks are still unfashionable right?