LukeFRC

Dan! Nice project you have there. I've had a lot of basses and set up even more for my friends- and without doubt the epi thunderbird had by far the worst hard wear- but I thought it was just me. The bridge esp was terrible. anyway not much help for you!

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1338638604' post='1677470'] yep... which is why you wont find many old old ones.. They do like to distress them, so who would know anyway.. As for collectivity... I don't think so. They aren't sought after enough at this time and aren't stand-out either. Fender basses were the only ones that lasted 25 years in a playable condition when they started to be sought after..nowadays, there is too much competition... As with Warwicks..my feeling is that earlier models are considered more desirable, but not really desirable. [/quote] feel free to sell me your 80s warwicks at the price undesirable basses make!

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1338634004' post='1677386'] AFAIK MusicMan are pretty much unique in the mass-produced bass market in having pre-amps that are designed specifically for the instruments that they go in. Everything else appears to use generic circuits that may or may not suit the basic raw sound of the bass. [/quote] a good point and often forgotten. I used to have a active wooden status bass- wonderful bass but sounded so so warm that I bought a p bass for more punchyness- but I imagine the warmth in the tone was built in to balance the sound of their graphute based basses. Warwick also has eq points, esp on the 2 band that i think would have be developed as part of the design process for their sound. I stuck a glockenklang 2 band in my streamer for a while, a respected bit of kit and it did what it was designed to do really well-being sounded crap in my streamer!

[quote name='paul_5' timestamp='1338592249' post='1677115'] Ooh, true analogue 'bucket bridge' then. Nice. [/quote] I have no idea what that means. but thanks!

[quote name='drTStingray' timestamp='1338583456' post='1676933'] Well I've been playing just on 40 yrs, and haven't owned a passive bass since about 1979 - I have dabbled with vintage Fenders occassionally. I have a number of basses and my 2 band Stingray regularly gets gigged on full bass boost and almost full treble boost - it's the sound I want to hear for the type of music I'm playing. Played in a fairly laid back way with an amp set almost flat, it sounds excellent IMO - very warm and fat. If I attacked the bass a la Flea it would probably be too much. As you reduce the EQ on the 2 band Ray, the mids boost - another type of sound is available doing that - I liken it to the bass sound on the Shine album by Average White Band. Apart from my 2 band Ray, I tend to start with basses at centre detent and then adjust 'by ear', dependent on room, genre, number of pick ups in use, coil tap selection etc etc. Some need a bit of mid boost to overcome too scooped of a natural instrument sound. I would be more worried about using an 18 volt pre amp with the bass boosted fully eg a Warwick - my Bongo would send people running to the toilet..........(cue for the bathroom equipment jokers....) having had their bowels vibrated - the bass boost is seriously that strong - I would probably lose speakers on a regular basis as well. I've played loads of passive basses but just don't like them as much - all of the guys I liked in the 70s, and who recorded using Jazzes and Precisions (eg Nate Watts on Stevie Wonder's album Songs in the Key of Life) - played them through studio preamps (Alembic in his case) so they're really not passive bass sounds at all..............and to the guy who said you get the same sound by turning your volume up with the bass EQ set on centre detent, as by fully boosting everything, well you're wrong because on many basses the individual EQ settings of treble and bass (and mid if available) interract - yes it is correct that once you get there there's nowhere further to go, but so what...........and this is only in terms of boost anyway - you can always reduce though - and the idea of cuttting EQ can also produce some great tones. Having got used to active basses over so many years, I find the idea and reality of a passive bass of the F variety rather limiting - great for a couple of specific tasks but not terribly flexible.................which is of course the reason why so many of the quality bassists of the 70s such as Jack Cassidy experimented and switched to active basses - or pumped up their 'passive' basses in the studio (Jaco's recorded bass sound is another example). My favourite bassists of all time are Bernard Edwards and Pino..........who used Musicmans (I know Pino has gone over to P basses but his tone is fantastic, much of which comes from his extraordinary skill - I believe the live sound with JMT is as much TI flats and Ampeg as it is P bass also!). The fact I can get myself to sound a bit like these guys is part down to the instrument - and yes I've tried to play We Are Family on a P bass - it just don't get close - but a 2 band Ray with flats, and EQ on full boost plus a lot of years practicing, you can. [/quote] is a "studio sound" really relevant at all? Ultimately it's a coil of wire with a magnet and at some point it goes through something that boosts that circuit. The main difference between an active and passive bass is that happen on the bass and before the cable with an active system. There is a difference but I that's it, just a difference and not one better than the other

I guess the real question is, why didn't you stick it on the sale forum on basschat?

It's cash on collection. so unless the courier comes with the cash.... otherwise arrange your own courier, quote for packaging and then quote for your time for wrapping and waiting for the courier.

[quote name='Zenitram' timestamp='1338570488' post='1676647'] So is it actually, er, you know, like, for sale? [/quote] it will be soon. the point of this thread was first, asking if it was something people would buy, and secondly asking folk for advice on price

[quote name='Zenitram' timestamp='1338558265' post='1676340'] This is my first post here, but I would buy that in a flash; it looks absolutely fantastic. [/quote] thanks Zenitram! It is pretty cool!

[quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1337679113' post='1663709'] I'm actually quite interested in the box as a whole. Why not make a sale thread "three pedals in one, will split if needs be"? [/quote] thought be worth sticking up pictures so people can see what Im talking about! first three are for the russian specced big muff pi, the next two for the small clone clone and the final 4 for the clone of the SFT. They are wired up in that order too. Tone type knobs are in black. You can also see where the LED's were before I took them out when debugging and never put them back in. power in the top and then in and out on the same side. I wanted all the leads on the right of me as I play to simplify everything. gut shot.. and it begins to look less pretty! So many wires. A problem I had was how to fit all the circuit boards and pots in the same enclosure? What I did was divide it up into two with hardboard. At the bottom level the circuit boards sit, the wires are then routed through to the top level where the knobs and switches sit. The electrical tape was insurance in the occasion that things shifted in transport that things wouldn't touch other things. Not pretty but effective. Battery used to sit top right before I decided it was simpler without. Boards are L/R - SFT, Small clone, Muff. The little board is to separate the power supplies to each effect (i think thats why I designed it, it was a while ago!) another shot. Experimented with lots of different caps on the input of the chorus and ended up with the big red one which I had lying about! take out the wooden partition and you can see the lower level. It was quite fiddly to wire up. What you can't see is the 3 switches. Big muff Pi clone Small clone clone SFT clone

[quote name='4 Strings' timestamp='1338535920' post='1675859'] oh, ok, thanks, americanism. I reckon you're better than you say, I'm in a worse place with 4! (Actually 5 but one is for sale) Maybe this is part of it, I'm sure people didn't have multiples of instruments so commonly years ago. I also think this is where all those missing tens of thousands of old fenders etc have gone, in people's wardrobes. I sometimes wish that keeping basses the dark made their colour fade so people would have to get them out. [/quote] i looked up an inflation calculator the other day. now back in 1982 my jv squier would have been about £200- and was a budget instrument. that would be £650. I hear reports that my takamine originally went for about £1000 or £2300 in todays money....i think instruments ae cheaper now!

[quote name='Booooooom' timestamp='1338508781' post='1675759'] I'm sure you were hurt and angry but 'counting to ten' and then talking directly and openly to your friend/guitarist/bandleader rather than publically voicing your feelings would have avoided a potentially disastrous situation occurring (plenty of guitarists read Basschat!). [/quote] I tend to stick things like this in the off topic which non members cannae see

if it were an original 70's P maybe, maybe not- but as a reissue- well it seems a waste to not! Maybe think about a stacked pot rather than an extra hole though

on the warwick start flat. then boost the bass about 33% to fatten out. Then treble boost if the song needs it. Warwick 2 band is interesting though as the Eq points are quite high for a bass and low for a treble. When I briefly tried a Glockenklang it was utterly different and didn't shape the tone as well, just added low and highs. All being well I'm going to go for an ACG which will be utterly different!

it's a big heavy item... and it's in devon collect only! what did you expect?

[quote name='charic' timestamp='1338464710' post='1674928'] Wenge top? [/quote] spalted maple top is of course what I meant to write....

interesting! If it were me i would have preferred it without the wenge top but that's me!

[quote name='Ou7shined' timestamp='1338423198' post='1674516'] As the kind of guy who does this work for other people I might be a wee bit biased in suggesting that if you are not sure about it then it probably is best to give it to someone else to do.... this is your bass we are talking about after all. If you think you'd like a go anyway, why not practice on something else first - maybe a busted pedal or something. There are a few tut vids on yt which show the basics. [/quote] what he says