LukeFRC

To my ears some things sound better than others. Other people are different.
I don't really have any problem with this.



It will cost more to make a guitar in small batches than in a small batch and less again on a production line.
It will cost more to make something in USA than Japan and less again in china.

The done correctly volume of construction shouldn't actually decrease the quality (and could even increase it) However probably there will be a higher tolerance for imperfections.

If a man in a city makes a company who make a bass, and sell it at a cost they set- if you want that/like that , fine buy it.
If another man in another city can make a similar product but does things dfferently, or pays his staff less or automates more or has bigger runs to get savings in volumes, he can set another price. If you like the bass fine, buy it.

The rest of this discussion is crap. If you have a sadowsky and don't like it, sell it. If you dont have a sadowsky and dont like it, dont buy it. If you don't have a sadowsky but want 'that sound' save up and buy, if you want another sound then look at other makes.

No given that anyhting from the USA seems to be a wee bit higher priced, compared to what warwick or status charge within the EU sadowsky arn't that daft prices imo

[quote name='bubinga5' post='966171' date='Sep 23 2010, 10:01 PM']anyone got doubts about the Sadowsky tone..oh yes its the Mezzoforte tune again...the "in the mix" sound is good enough imo.. but when he solos the Sadowsky tone its unbeatable..the slap and pop tone is very special.

i love the sound of this bass...i will get another Sadowsky one day...

i think it sounds as good outside the mix as in..poss the best distinctive super jazz sound available today IMO...

ok you may not like the feel and it didnt feel right 'in the shop' what a crock of XXXX..in the right hands a sadowsky is a beast...

just my $

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc4oPqmCbFA"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc4oPqmCbFA[/url][/quote]


proof that even a drummer can make a decent sound from a sadowsky!

1- lose the foam
2- DR high beams, or some other round wound string
3- it's passive unlike the schecter- the main difference will be that you will need to whack the gain up on your amp.
4- don't be afraid to hit the strings hard.
5- you want a more attacking tone, lose the bridge cover and play back there.
6- If you go back to the schecter remeber to turn the gain back!

i quite enjoyed that video

[quote name='Clarky' post='964073' date='Sep 22 2010, 08:18 AM']Looking over the FS boards, i[color="#8B0000"][b]ts evident there isn't much money floating around.[/b][/color] I appreciate £1500-odd is a lot of dosh so I would potentially consider another part-cash trade as long as the cash was in the majority.

Not really trying to add to my bass collection but I would consider a vgc s/h 2008/9/10 (non-S1) American Std Jazz (only in oly white or sunburst) as part-ex. Very specific I know but I don't like many colours, only want a USA Fender (snob), and I have a lovely P bass already.[/quote]


+1

and £5 a pack more than status graphite Hotwires round core.....

going by their website... slightly higher gauges described as "light"

new photos of the streamer.
I was wrong, it's not actually beat up at all, I managed to get the dinks on the bottom, and also tried to show the fret wear.
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depends, a bit more than the precisions,
i saw a large fender logo precision, like mine go for 1100 on ebay the other day.
but not that much for a squier logo one.
What colour etc is it? If you have one for sale or know of one......

I could wrap the streamer in tin foil...

[quote name='funkyspuke' post='962853' date='Sep 20 2010, 11:59 PM']an awesome reply to my question! thanks

I want this one and the other one up for sale haha ... but my other half wouldn't be impressed!![/quote]

well you could get the silver one and pretend you just moved some pickups on the flea.... or you could buy my one and tell her how you saved a few hundred and are being more honest through not making up stuff about moving pickups on a flea bass?

[quote name='tayste_2000' post='962870' date='Sep 21 2010, 12:23 AM']They are basically 2 prime examples of 2 totally different periods in Valenti's building practices, mine is Warmoth parts the other is USAGC or something which are the same people who [b][i]allegedly[/i][/b] supply Sadowsky.[/quote]

allegedly, but we do know they are both built by a fella who's day job is building sadowskys.... you could buy them both for less than a new sadowsky in guitar guitar.
Except thats a metro-are they different?

[quote name='tayste_2000' post='962854' date='Sep 21 2010, 12:00 AM']The other Valenti will be closer to your Sadowsky in shape mine is the more traditional chunky fender design.

Also the red one is in better condition than mine, mainly as it just seems to get passed around

For the money his is the better buy and just to be clear I won't be price matching I'm not Tesco's [/quote]

crap, I forgot you had this up here, I would have waited till it sold until I put mine up. sorry
I think yours is a good price though. If I hadn't just realised I didn't want a active jazz, I would be tempted!
Your one has the detuner and the vintage tone control too.

So if you want a valenti (which you do) it's more a question of whats your favourite colour!

[quote name='funkyspuke' post='962840' date='Sep 20 2010, 11:26 PM']can I ask you to give more detail on why it didn't feel right? I understand that it cost a fair bit, but it never stopped me

I have a sadowsky metro and the action is amazing! really easy to play! what's the Valenti like in terms of action and playability!?[/quote]


Sure....

I got the bass to see if it was the answer to a bass itch I have had in the back of my head for a long time.

I have a P bass that sounds amazing and is brilliant and I couldn't find a better one untill I spend silly money for something from the 50's.
However for my main gig recently, which is church, the fat middy sound of it has tended to be a bit much, with the bridge pickup of the warwick it sat in the mix a bit better, there was a bit of extra clarity. However I much prefer the passive tone of the P bass to the active sound, that given I had the inkling in my head that a Jazz was the way to go. So when this popped up, having seen it on here before I jumped at it. Not only is it a brilliant bass but it was (is) at a very good price.
It turned up and it is almost perfect, not even buckle rash on the back.
The tone is amazing and answered my question, yes a Jazz is what I am looking for. The pre-amp is really good, even though I don't go for the active sound it is really sensitive and powerfull (18v). So that answered, I stuck my AMAZING warwick up on here for sale.

After a few days longer something dawned on me, I had bought a great bass, I mean great. It challenges me to play differently, it's fun and fast to play and very musical.
But I felt really uncomfortable playing such a nice, and such a perfect condition bass- super sadowsky super jazzes and the like have never really interested me, I like workhorses. I also find preamps annoying. If I was being really picky I don't like the gold text on the headstock either, but thats me being and artist/designer.

All that being given I thought it better if I see if someone else on here fancies an amazing bass for a great price and I find a passive fender.
I also want to cure my GAS, if I'm trying to slim these two basses into one bass, then the jazz has to be a keeper.
For me this isn't it, but then neither would any super jazz or figured tabletop type basses, each to their own! But I've learned that now, so having this bass for a wee while is a good thing (and it's not the end of the world if I canne shift it, but at the price I bought it at I think it will go)

As for action.... I usually play with thick strings and a highish action. This is still set up with thin strings and a low action, how low can it go? You would be best asking one of the former owners, probably very very low.

Search the net, esp talkbass for more info about valenti, what I read seemed to stick them slightly below NYC sadowsky for quality but at a much lower price (esp in the case of this one)



The Warwick on the other hand, if no one makes me a good offer, I don't mind keeping as I'll still play it. Thats not to say I wouldn't like a good offer.

[quote name='Linus27' post='962672' date='Sep 20 2010, 08:17 PM']That Streamer is totally beautiful. Stunning. If I had no basses now and was buying from new I would have it. Simply beautiful and all the reasons why I adore the look of Warwick's.

Have a bump on me.[/quote]

thank you. It is very pretty, I went in a guitar shop in edinburgh today, they had a bolt on neck corvette warwick for £1100.
This is better built I think, through neck, amazing-ness for less than that!

[quote name='PURPOLARIS' post='960800' date='Sep 18 2010, 10:10 PM']Would you be interested in a USA Deluxe Jazz FMT ?[/quote]

in short- no! sorry but I have a real aversion to fancy tops on basses.

i prefered it when it was withdrawn and not teasing me with it's unobtainable beauty.

yeah that post was out of date

[quote name='Truckstop' post='960386' date='Sep 18 2010, 01:59 PM']Stick an extra two strings on it and i'll have it!

Truckstop[/quote]

*eyes up roll of masking tape and some old strings*

easy done!

nice, i just bought number 42. cracking bass

hmmm shameless plug for the 1991 streamer i've just stuck in the for sale section....

NOT FOR SALE ANYMORE!!!!






This thread originally had a valenti in it too, now sold.... so if you're reading something that seems to be talking about a different bass, that's why

[font=Arial Black]Warwick Streamer Stage One 1991[/font]

This bass feels amazing, the feel, the lightness, the woody feel everything. I love it- except the tone... I've played about with it, sorted the setup out and it has that classic warwick tone- and it just doesn't suit me!

It's an early one, this is a good thing, made 1991.
Super thin skinny neck. Jazz type width, slightly thicker than a P bass neck.... this is a slim fast neck, and stays thin all the way down- none of these supposed clubby necks at this vintage
According to the bathroom scales I make it 3.5kg or under 8lb.
I have a tub of bee's wax polish you can have and a warwick gigbag.

The bad points are is it's been well played for 19 years, has the odd scar and rubbed in dark patch- see photos, I prefer that played in feel, other folk want a pristine bass. This isn't pristine, but nither is it abused.
Having been played there is fretwear. I don't need a refret for my playing, you may do. The gallery in camden quoted me £130, for a refret if you think it needs done.

So back up after 6 months and 3 basses later I think this may have to go... trade for some kind of Jazz bass, jazz bass and cash, or before when it was up for sale I was getting offers for around £1000











more photos a post or two down...

[quote name='King Tut' post='955875' date='Sep 14 2010, 11:56 AM']Stacker - they do two models from Japan - I know cos I've got one of each - Fretless Alder - us pups, spiral bridge, vintage reverse tuners and strap peg on the back of the headstock, and a fretted basswood one, jap pups, normal bridge, lightweight tuners, no peg on the back of the headstock one. The alder model is obviously more desirable and a more true to life replica, however the basswood ones can be nice as well.

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three actually,
the standard one, which isn't a reissue at all, basswood, jap pups, etc etc
the 62RI which is basswood, jap pups and the vintage features like the grounding strip and strap pin on headstock.
and the 62RI-US which has the alder and USA pups as well.

but thats currently and back in the past I've no doubt it was different at various times.

oh and some jap ones have basswood body and jap vintage pups, others have alder body and USA pups.

If they don't have the spiral bridge and the grounding strip it may not be a 62 ri....